K&N air filter a joke
01-18-2005, 12:20 PM
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K&N air filter a joke
Well the truth is out. K&N filters are nothing but hype and smoke and mirrors. Dont waste your money on that K&N crap. Just buy a air filter at Auto Zone or Wal-Mart and save your money. K&Ns are worthless garbage. Its snake-oil plan and simple. Buyer Beware...
01-18-2005, 01:06 PM
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wow...thanks for the worthless thread; just another chance for some irrelevant controversy eh? If you're going to bad mouth a product you need to back it up with some fact. I'm not defending K&N here, I use OEM filters, but whether you like them or not, you don't need to come around spouting off crap like this with nothing to back it up.
In most fairly stock cars the K&N will do little to nothing, maybe give 1 or 2 hp. However, in highly moddified cars, more air flow is an absolute necessity, and that is where K&N comes into play.
A member here, Nathan Plemmons will soon be telling you that on a dyno run with his modified LT1 (still stock displacement) that he lost 10hp by switching to a paper filter, and that his friend with a stock car gained about 2hp by switching to a K&N. This was all dyno verified.
Get your facts straight before posting a bunch of trash, or at least give some reason for your opinion.
In most fairly stock cars the K&N will do little to nothing, maybe give 1 or 2 hp. However, in highly moddified cars, more air flow is an absolute necessity, and that is where K&N comes into play.
A member here, Nathan Plemmons will soon be telling you that on a dyno run with his modified LT1 (still stock displacement) that he lost 10hp by switching to a paper filter, and that his friend with a stock car gained about 2hp by switching to a K&N. This was all dyno verified.
Get your facts straight before posting a bunch of trash, or at least give some reason for your opinion.
01-18-2005, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Vader
Well the truth is out. K&N filters are nothing but hype and smoke and mirrors. Dont waste your money on that K&N crap. Just buy a air filter at Auto Zone or Wal-Mart and save your money. K&Ns are worthless garbage. Its snake-oil plan and simple. Buyer Beware...
My daily driver gets the paper.
01-18-2005, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aeronautica86
wow...thanks for the worthless thread; just another chance for some irrelevant controversy eh? If you're going to bad mouth a product you need to back it up with some fact. I'm not defending K&N here, I use OEM filters, but whether you like them or not, you don't need to come around spouting off crap like this with nothing to back it up.
In most fairly stock cars the K&N will do little to nothing, maybe give 1 or 2 hp. However, in highly moddified cars, more air flow is an absolute necessity, and that is where K&N comes into play.
A member here, Nathan Plemmons will soon be telling you that on a dyno run with his modified LT1 (still stock displacement) that he lost 10hp by switching to a paper filter, and that his friend with a stock car gained about 2hp by switching to a K&N. This was all dyno verified.
Get your facts straight before posting a bunch of trash, or at least give some reason for your opinion.
In most fairly stock cars the K&N will do little to nothing, maybe give 1 or 2 hp. However, in highly moddified cars, more air flow is an absolute necessity, and that is where K&N comes into play.
A member here, Nathan Plemmons will soon be telling you that on a dyno run with his modified LT1 (still stock displacement) that he lost 10hp by switching to a paper filter, and that his friend with a stock car gained about 2hp by switching to a K&N. This was all dyno verified.
Get your facts straight before posting a bunch of trash, or at least give some reason for your opinion.
with everything you wrote. Very well said!
01-18-2005, 01:37 PM
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I'm running a K&N in my otherwise stock '91. It and many other performance products, are designed to offer maximum benefit at higher rpm ranges. For example, you could probably get enough air through an old pair of your cotton socks to keep the engine running at idle. But the engine would starve for air at moderate rpm's. That's just where K&N shines - it flows abundant air for very high rpm's. Few of us drive in the upper rpm ranges of our cars on a regular basis. Few of us have modified our engines to the point that we will ever see the maximum limit of a K&N air filter. But all of us (I think) like to believe that IF we ever get to that rarified atmosphere of power, our air filter will be right there with us - providing all the air our engines can handle.
Most of us feel that our corvettes are performance cars. And, K&N has made a name for itself as a "performance" filter. It just feels right to have a K&N decal on our air filter housing.
Finally, a good quality paper air filter for our vettes costs around $18.00. For me personally, I like the economics of an air filter that I can wash and reuse a dozen times or more before I have to replace it.
Just my thoughts on this topic.
Glen
I'm running a K&N in my otherwise stock '91. It and many other performance products, are designed to offer maximum benefit at higher rpm ranges. For example, you could probably get enough air through an old pair of your cotton socks to keep the engine running at idle. But the engine would starve for air at moderate rpm's. That's just where K&N shines - it flows abundant air for very high rpm's. Few of us drive in the upper rpm ranges of our cars on a regular basis. Few of us have modified our engines to the point that we will ever see the maximum limit of a K&N air filter. But all of us (I think) like to believe that IF we ever get to that rarified atmosphere of power, our air filter will be right there with us - providing all the air our engines can handle.
Most of us feel that our corvettes are performance cars. And, K&N has made a name for itself as a "performance" filter. It just feels right to have a K&N decal on our air filter housing.
Finally, a good quality paper air filter for our vettes costs around $18.00. For me personally, I like the economics of an air filter that I can wash and reuse a dozen times or more before I have to replace it.
Just my thoughts on this topic.
Glen
01-18-2005, 01:49 PM
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I've always known this that lil bit more air won't do CRAP but allow more crap to go in. It's funny to see ricers install them and think they have 30 more hp and claim now instead of 200 they have 230hp etc.
it's also funny do see everyone on here HACK UP their intake lid and claim they really feel the difference.
how stupid
it's also funny do see everyone on here HACK UP their intake lid and claim they really feel the difference.
how stupid
01-18-2005, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Vader
Well the truth is out. K&N filters are nothing but hype and smoke and mirrors. Dont waste your money on that K&N crap. Just buy a air filter at Auto Zone or Wal-Mart and save your money. K&Ns are worthless garbage. Its snake-oil plan and simple. Buyer Beware...
01-18-2005, 01:58 PM
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And you post is based on what high level of techincal information and/or personal experiences?? 
A fresh K&N filter may not flow any more than a new paper filter, but it will certainly flow more air when dirty that a dirty paper filter. As for cost, a K&N filter and cleaning kit is about the cost of three paper filters, so the economics of a K&N are certainly clear.
A fresh K&N filter may not flow any more than a new paper filter, but it will certainly flow more air when dirty that a dirty paper filter. As for cost, a K&N filter and cleaning kit is about the cost of three paper filters, so the economics of a K&N are certainly clear.
01-18-2005, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by aeronautica86
wow...thanks for the worthless thread; just another chance for some irrelevant controversy eh? If you're going to bad mouth a product you need to back it up with some fact. I'm not defending K&N here, I use OEM filters, but whether you like them or not, you don't need to come around spouting off crap like this with nothing to back it up.
In most fairly stock cars the K&N will do little to nothing, maybe give 1 or 2 hp. However, in highly moddified cars, more air flow is an absolute necessity, and that is where K&N comes into play.
A member here, Nathan Plemmons will soon be telling you that on a dyno run with his modified LT1 (still stock displacement) that he lost 10hp by switching to a paper filter, and that his friend with a stock car gained about 2hp by switching to a K&N. This was all dyno verified.
Get your facts straight before posting a bunch of trash, or at least give some reason for your opinion.
In most fairly stock cars the K&N will do little to nothing, maybe give 1 or 2 hp. However, in highly moddified cars, more air flow is an absolute necessity, and that is where K&N comes into play.
A member here, Nathan Plemmons will soon be telling you that on a dyno run with his modified LT1 (still stock displacement) that he lost 10hp by switching to a paper filter, and that his friend with a stock car gained about 2hp by switching to a K&N. This was all dyno verified.
Get your facts straight before posting a bunch of trash, or at least give some reason for your opinion.
I am curious where you come up with such asinine questions? Are you planning on installing one of these on your vette, General Lee, DTS, and GNX to get a "C4 vs. ___?" comparo thread going? Don't leave us in suspense... I mean we haven't wasted all of our brain cells following your worthless threads yet.
01-18-2005, 02:23 PM
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Ok, not defending, but maybe Vader is responding to Kara's posting. All kinds of charts and graphs showing that the AC Delco is a better filter.
If that is the case, then Vader you need to explain yourself a little bit better then leaving yourself open.
If that is the case, then Vader you need to explain yourself a little bit better then leaving yourself open.
01-18-2005, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by longhorn_C4
Same here.
We ought to start a thread based solely on that picture.
01-18-2005, 02:39 PM
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there was a thread here a couple of days ago, linking to a site created by some dude claiming that K&N Airfilters kill engines...
there may be an element of truth to it, but the reality is that any ultra fine particulate that might get into the intake isn't going to eat your engine... it's going to be blown to bits in the combustion chamber and sent on it's merry way.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=993066
there may be an element of truth to it, but the reality is that any ultra fine particulate that might get into the intake isn't going to eat your engine... it's going to be blown to bits in the combustion chamber and sent on it's merry way.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=993066
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01-18-2005, 02:40 PM
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I feel redundant.
01-18-2005, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WZDADS
Ok, not defending, but maybe Vader is responding to Kara's posting. All kinds of charts and graphs showing that the AC Delco is a better filter.
If that is the case, then Vader you need to explain yourself a little bit better then leaving yourself open.
If that is the case, then Vader you need to explain yourself a little bit better then leaving yourself open.
I really doubt it's that good. I wonder how much competition K&N is giving them?
01-18-2005, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bogus
there may be an element of truth to it, but the reality is that any ultra fine particulate that might get into the intake isn't going to eat your engine... it's going to be blown to bits in the combustion chamber and sent on it's merry way.
I think the issue is dust getting thru.
If I drove on dirty dusty roads, I would'nt use a K&N.