Well my saga continues...
02-28-2005, 05:02 PM
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Well my saga continues...
As some of you may know, I have recently gotten my car back on the road after 11 long months, and am in posession of a strong running, streetable 385. However, I have still had a couple of lingering issues. One of them is a vibration around 3k+ rpms which I posted a thread on a while back.
The other issue pertained to a code 36 (Hi Res on the opti-spark) I keep getting. Prior to Next Level (Norris) getting my car running, one of the things that my builder did wrong was incorrectly install the opti-spark, which inevitably forced me to put a new one on. It just so happened that I had a spare with only 2k miles on it when I took it off due to another issue a while back, which turned out not to be the opti-spark either.
So Norris installed this one and was tuning the car on the dyno, and they said they kept getting a code 36, and after doing all the diagnostics it came back to being a bad opti-spark. Now mind you I had to pay the labor for this install, and now have to buy another new one (my 5th or 6th, I can't remember) and then get the privelege to pay the labor again.
This one worked fine... for about a month, and then I started to get the code again. Well they have had the car for a few days and they call and say I need to replace the opti again, this time going with a dynaspark. Suffice it to say, I'm not happy and tell them I would like the money I paid towards the oem unit to go towards the dynaspark if that's the way we are going to go, but I really felt the problem lied elsewhere.
So they decided to do some more testing, with 2 other used opti's and then a brand new unit, and in all 3 cases they were still getting the code 36. After hooking up a computer, what they then determined was that the problem was the ECM wasn't receiving the code, or something to that effect.
Now this is a relatively new ECM, which was replaced when my engine builder was trying to tune the car on an engine dyno. I ended up getting a remanned AC/Delco unit from Eckler's back in July of last year (the first one we got from them didn't work) since my club gets a 20% discount from them.
So I call them up to see what they can do for me and..... as luck would have it they no longer carry them. So I checked out Mid America and they are $249, and then you get a refund on the core, but........ they don't have any for a 92. I spoke with Norris and they will charge me $300 for a reman they get from GM, but they said if I can do better then be their guest.
So I am asking my Corvette brothers and sisters, where can one get one of these for a decent price for a 92 LT1? I'm at my wit's end with this car and am hanging by a thin thread.
Mike
The other issue pertained to a code 36 (Hi Res on the opti-spark) I keep getting. Prior to Next Level (Norris) getting my car running, one of the things that my builder did wrong was incorrectly install the opti-spark, which inevitably forced me to put a new one on. It just so happened that I had a spare with only 2k miles on it when I took it off due to another issue a while back, which turned out not to be the opti-spark either.
So Norris installed this one and was tuning the car on the dyno, and they said they kept getting a code 36, and after doing all the diagnostics it came back to being a bad opti-spark. Now mind you I had to pay the labor for this install, and now have to buy another new one (my 5th or 6th, I can't remember) and then get the privelege to pay the labor again.
This one worked fine... for about a month, and then I started to get the code again. Well they have had the car for a few days and they call and say I need to replace the opti again, this time going with a dynaspark. Suffice it to say, I'm not happy and tell them I would like the money I paid towards the oem unit to go towards the dynaspark if that's the way we are going to go, but I really felt the problem lied elsewhere.
So they decided to do some more testing, with 2 other used opti's and then a brand new unit, and in all 3 cases they were still getting the code 36. After hooking up a computer, what they then determined was that the problem was the ECM wasn't receiving the code, or something to that effect.
Now this is a relatively new ECM, which was replaced when my engine builder was trying to tune the car on an engine dyno. I ended up getting a remanned AC/Delco unit from Eckler's back in July of last year (the first one we got from them didn't work) since my club gets a 20% discount from them.
So I call them up to see what they can do for me and..... as luck would have it they no longer carry them. So I checked out Mid America and they are $249, and then you get a refund on the core, but........ they don't have any for a 92. I spoke with Norris and they will charge me $300 for a reman they get from GM, but they said if I can do better then be their guest.
So I am asking my Corvette brothers and sisters, where can one get one of these for a decent price for a 92 LT1? I'm at my wit's end with this car and am hanging by a thin thread.
Mike
02-28-2005, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by luvmy92
So I am asking my Corvette brothers and sisters, where can one get one of these for a decent price for a 92 LT1? I'm at my wit's end with this car and am hanging by a thin thread.
Mike
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02-28-2005, 08:30 PM
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Wow.
I would have to question why the ECM isn't getting the signal. Has "Next Level" checked the wiring from the Opti to the ECM?
There is a real chance that the harness going TO the opti is corroded. This will send all sort of wack data do and fro.
As for a new ECM, check with Chris at Superior Chevy, tell him you are a forum member, 1.800.728.8267.
I would have to question why the ECM isn't getting the signal. Has "Next Level" checked the wiring from the Opti to the ECM?
There is a real chance that the harness going TO the opti is corroded. This will send all sort of wack data do and fro.
As for a new ECM, check with Chris at Superior Chevy, tell him you are a forum member, 1.800.728.8267.
03-01-2005, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by vetteman9368
for all the money you have spent get a FAST system
100000%! I played this game for years and wasted soooo much money on bad ecm, chips, tuning, and hours of headache. Spend 1500 and be done with it. DFI or FAST, you won't look back ever again.
BTW: is this mike norris.
03-01-2005, 01:18 AM
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I went to a AC delco parts store here in Hawaii called RedLine auto parts. , and paid like a 180 bucks for a reman ECM. It was in a AC Delco box. I know I am 6000 miles away.
With the code, I would check out the connector, I bet it is a blueish color form the salt air, my 93 was like that , so I changed over to the 95, now a Dynaspark. The connectors can get real corroded. Get some elctrical cleaner and unplug the main connecotr on the passengers side, and the one up on the passenger side of the manifold, and clean it. Also, they didnt wash your engine did they? Old story, but that does screw up an opti.
With the code, I would check out the connector, I bet it is a blueish color form the salt air, my 93 was like that , so I changed over to the 95, now a Dynaspark. The connectors can get real corroded. Get some elctrical cleaner and unplug the main connecotr on the passengers side, and the one up on the passenger side of the manifold, and clean it. Also, they didnt wash your engine did they? Old story, but that does screw up an opti.
03-01-2005, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bogus
Wow.
I would have to question why the ECM isn't getting the signal. Has "Next Level" checked the wiring from the Opti to the ECM?
There is a real chance that the harness going TO the opti is corroded. This will send all sort of wack data do and fro.
As for a new ECM, check with Chris at Superior Chevy, tell him you are a forum member, 1.800.728.8267.
I would have to question why the ECM isn't getting the signal. Has "Next Level" checked the wiring from the Opti to the ECM?
There is a real chance that the harness going TO the opti is corroded. This will send all sort of wack data do and fro.
As for a new ECM, check with Chris at Superior Chevy, tell him you are a forum member, 1.800.728.8267.
Mike
03-01-2005, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
Have you checked with the national chain stores? Pep Boys, Auto Zone, Checkers (CSK), O'Reilly, Car Quest, NAPA, or any others you may have in your area. I may be wring, but I don't think the ECM is a dedicated Corvette item. The prom would be, but maybe not the ECM. Let your fingers do some walking.
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I'd be leary if these weren't remanned GM units, but I guess they would have to be.
Mike
03-01-2005, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by zelement
100000%! I played this game for years and wasted soooo much money on bad ecm, chips, tuning, and hours of headache. Spend 1500 and be done with it. DFI or FAST, you won't look back ever again.
BTW: is this mike norris.
It just seems like I am forever buying the same parts over and over again, and it's all on my dime.
Disgruntled, but not giving up yet...
Mike
03-01-2005, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by steve40th
I went to a AC delco parts store here in Hawaii called RedLine auto parts. , and paid like a 180 bucks for a reman ECM. It was in a AC Delco box. I know I am 6000 miles away.
With the code, I would check out the connector, I bet it is a blueish color form the salt air, my 93 was like that , so I changed over to the 95, now a Dynaspark. The connectors can get real corroded. Get some elctrical cleaner and unplug the main connecotr on the passengers side, and the one up on the passenger side of the manifold, and clean it. Also, they didnt wash your engine did they? Old story, but that does screw up an opti.
With the code, I would check out the connector, I bet it is a blueish color form the salt air, my 93 was like that , so I changed over to the 95, now a Dynaspark. The connectors can get real corroded. Get some elctrical cleaner and unplug the main connecotr on the passengers side, and the one up on the passenger side of the manifold, and clean it. Also, they didnt wash your engine did they? Old story, but that does screw up an opti.
Mike
03-01-2005, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by luvmy92
I'd be leary if these weren't remanned GM units, but I guess they would have to be.
Mike
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FWIW lots of guys on the forum have used the ECMs from autozone or where ever with great success. I wouldn't be too afraid to try it if it was me...could save you a hundred bucks.
03-01-2005, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
Mike, sorry to hear about this man. FWIW lots of guys on the forum have used the ECMs from autozone or where ever with great success. I wouldn't be too afraid to try it if it was me...could save you a hundred bucks.
FWIW lots of guys on the forum have used the ECMs from autozone or where ever with great success. I wouldn't be too afraid to try it if it was me...could save you a hundred bucks.Just so you know, I'm not slamming Mike and Jeff, as I know you are a loyal customer as well. I'm just really fed up at the moment, and the only one who seems to be getting screwed on this project is me! Anyway, I'm hoping this will clear up the opti-spark issue and all that is left is the vibration. It just never ends...
BTW, love the new avatar... wherever it is, I wish I was there.
Mike
i paid around 120 for my ECM 3 years ago 
03-01-2005, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by luvmy92
I'd be leary if these weren't remanned GM units, but I guess they would have to be.
Mike
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03-01-2005, 01:34 PM
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I know your frustrations, I had some wiring issues that were neither the ECM or the Opti's fault. But I just got fed up. I'm putting in a rear mount distributor to work with my Accel Gen 7 DFI.
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03-01-2005, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
They may or may not have been re-maned by GM, but it would be a GM unit that was re-maned. That would make it a "remanned GM unit" Where else would a core come from?
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Glad you cleared that up for me...
Mike
03-01-2005, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewasp
are they going to pull the motor apart to check the balance?
Mike