X-pipe or resonator which one to install first
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X-pipe or resonator want to install both
Plan on swapping my existing 2 ½” exhaust system, see signature, with a 3“ system. The problem is, I want to use a 3” X-pipe but don’t know where to install; before or after the resonator. I want to use a resonator because I believe otherwise the exhaust will be too loud.
I will and must use the Hooker shorty headers, no cats, X-pipe, resonator and MagnaFlow dual tip mufflers.
Here are the parts I plan on using:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
I will be grateful for any suggestions
I will and must use the Hooker shorty headers, no cats, X-pipe, resonator and MagnaFlow dual tip mufflers.
Here are the parts I plan on using:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
I will be grateful for any suggestions
Last edited by vettef6; 08-15-2005 at 11:08 AM.
#2
Drifting
the X pipe goes inplace of the resanator.
this is what i did on mine.
y do u want an X pipe?
there is no point to install that if not cutting out the resanator.
your friend
Sean
this is what i did on mine.
y do u want an X pipe?
there is no point to install that if not cutting out the resanator.
your friend
Sean
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Originally Posted by redbullapril23
the X pipe goes inplace of the resanator.
this is what i did on mine.
y do u want an X pipe?
there is no point to install that if not cutting out the resanator.
your friend
Sean
this is what i did on mine.
y do u want an X pipe?
there is no point to install that if not cutting out the resanator.
your friend
Sean
Would anybody know of a 3” resonator with an integrated X-pipe, this would surely work also or even better??
MagnaFlow has one, but it’s only 2 ½”, part# 14386!!
I still would want to know which to mount first in case I can’t find one as stated above. What length after the shorty header collector should the X-pipe be welded in.
Last edited by vettef6; 08-15-2005 at 06:58 AM.
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I met a guy with a 92ZR1 this weekend with 3in.B+B X Pipe and no resonator but no headers.The car was much quieter than I expected.
With what I actually heard I don't think you'll have a problem with just the X Pipe.
With what I actually heard I don't think you'll have a problem with just the X Pipe.
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AQUADEN, did he use cats; as you know I am not???
Just using an X-pipe and 3" straight through mufflers, I don't know; should be very loud.
The shorty headers compared to the stock manifolds make no difference in sound.
Just using an X-pipe and 3" straight through mufflers, I don't know; should be very loud.
The shorty headers compared to the stock manifolds make no difference in sound.
#6
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use stock mufflers and an X pipe.
i just dont see the function of putting an X pipe after the resanator or even before. the X pipe allows for better flow and distribution but teh resanator and mufflers do the oppisite. they distupt the flow to cancel out noise.
i just dot really see much room or reason to add one before or after the resanator.
i am running straight pipes with a 3inch x pipe with lt headers. and that is loud!
now r u getting an after market resanator?
imho its either 1 or the other.
im not trying to shoot you down im just trying to understand what you are tryin to accomplish with the x pipe.
seriously!
your friend
Sean
i just dont see the function of putting an X pipe after the resanator or even before. the X pipe allows for better flow and distribution but teh resanator and mufflers do the oppisite. they distupt the flow to cancel out noise.
i just dot really see much room or reason to add one before or after the resanator.
i am running straight pipes with a 3inch x pipe with lt headers. and that is loud!
now r u getting an after market resanator?
imho its either 1 or the other.
im not trying to shoot you down im just trying to understand what you are tryin to accomplish with the x pipe.
seriously!
your friend
Sean
Last edited by redbullapril23; 08-15-2005 at 11:33 AM.
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http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...ne=main&id=494
This is what you need. 3" resonator with the tru-x core.
This is what you need. 3" resonator with the tru-x core.
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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...ne=main&id=494
This is what you need. 3" resonator with the tru-x core.
This is what you need. 3" resonator with the tru-x core.
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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/s...ne=main&id=494
This is what you need. 3" resonator with the tru-x core.
This is what you need. 3" resonator with the tru-x core.
The 3" muffler #12469 would work as a resonator also, but with a smaller spacing; which would be better don't you think??
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Originally Posted by vettef6
What do you mean with "tru-x core"??
The 3" muffler #12469 would work as a resonator also, but with a smaller spacing; which would be better don't you think??
The 3" muffler #12469 would work as a resonator also, but with a smaller spacing; which would be better don't you think??
You're looking to add a 3" X-pipe as well as a 3" muffler/resonator - correct? The link I added kills 2 birds with one stone. It's a 3" muffler/resonator......and an X-pipe. The tru-x core means the internals of the muffler/resonator take a "X" path
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How about a Bassani X-pipe/ Resonator..
I have a dual 3" in/out one it is a 28" can with the X-pipe and resonator.
I bought it through Vinci Performance.. it was $225
I have a dual 3" in/out one it is a 28" can with the X-pipe and resonator.
I bought it through Vinci Performance.. it was $225
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here's my .02
want loud and extra 2 hp on top? use x pipe
want quieter and 2 less hp use resonator.
your choice. using both is senseless. The resonator will be the restriction in your flow. adding an x pipe will do nothing. X pipes work if the flow is optimal. Having shorty headers imo may be the biggest restriction right there.
want loud and extra 2 hp on top? use x pipe
want quieter and 2 less hp use resonator.
your choice. using both is senseless. The resonator will be the restriction in your flow. adding an x pipe will do nothing. X pipes work if the flow is optimal. Having shorty headers imo may be the biggest restriction right there.
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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
You're looking to add a 3" X-pipe as well as a 3" muffler/resonator - correct? The link I added kills 2 birds with one stone. It's a 3" muffler/resonator......and an X-pipe. The tru-x core means the internals of the muffler/resonator take a "X" path
The Bassani X-pipe/resonator is made of SS but is also about 2 1/2 times the price.
So here is what I'm going to get:
3" X-pipe/resonator part # 12599
3" mufflers # 14288 with 3" inlet and 2X 2 1/2" outlet
don't know which Tips to buy yet.
Thanks for the info guys
#14
Melting Slicks
Not what you're looking for but how's this for a contraption...H -> Resonator -> X. This what the previous owner did to my Corsa exhaust. I must say, it sounds awesome like that.
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Originally Posted by AQUADEN
I met a guy with a 92ZR1 this weekend with 3in.B+B X Pipe and no resonator but no headers.The car was much quieter than I expected.
With what I actually heard I don't think you'll have a problem with just the X Pipe.
With what I actually heard I don't think you'll have a problem with just the X Pipe.
Mike
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whats hte cleanest way to find out where an X pipe should go? ive heard you can paint the pipes and where they stop/start burning is where the center of the pipe needs to go but that will make my exhaust looks nasty. ive also heard you can put masking tape on the pipes and read the same thing. i would think this would be a better method since you can just peeel the tape off when u are done. burnt or not. anyone ever try this?
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Originally Posted by luvmy92
I have the 3" B&B's with TPIS long tubes, no cats, no resonator and 3" Dr Gas x-pipe on my 385 stroker, and it sounds mean, but it's not so loud to be obtrusive in the cockpit. Mine is a 6-spd though, and the A4 would probably have more resonation with this setup.
Mike
Mike
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My 350ci LT1 used to have some resonance using stock manifolds, no cats, Borla resonator and Walker mufflers. Changing to a 396ci and Hooker shorty headers, I have no resonance at all.
See what the new 3" system, like stated above in my post, will do in regards to resonance.
See what the new 3" system, like stated above in my post, will do in regards to resonance.
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Originally Posted by tjwong
Mike I have the identical setup to your car. There is a felt difference between the BB resonator and the Dr Gas X pipe. Mine does have some resonance and the difference between the resonator installed or not is that the resonance RPM level is moved to a slightly higher RPM. But as I mentioned I have a felt gain in low RPM torque with the X pipe and a snappier throttle response in my car.
It's not for everybody, but most people that hear it tell me it's what a Corvette should sound like.
Mike