Worth changing to synthetic oil?
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Worth changing to synthetic oil?
I've recently purchased a 91 vette w/stock L98. According to the previous owner he used dino oil. In my other cars I've always used synthetic. Is there any advantages/disadvantages from switching to synthetic or should I continue to stay with the dino oil. It runs fine, no leaks, etc. I've heard all the stories about leaking, etc. if you switch from dino to synthetic, but would appreciate input from this group. I'm happy using dino oil and doing regular oil changes (car is a weekend driver so won't be putting that many miles on). Also, if sticking with dino oil any favorites? Again, it's been years since I've used dino oil and would like a couple of recommendations of what oil to use in this car.
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If it's only used on weekends and you're not racing it, any good quality name brand dino oil will be fine.
The synthetic stuff is good but for your application overkill.
The synthetic stuff is good but for your application overkill.
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When I purchased my 90 I switched to Synthetic. I just advanced my change schedule the first few times and used a good filter each time, no problems. Its really funny how so many "informed" have fought the use of synthetic. Harley Davidson made all kinds of excuses for years, youve heard them all. Several years ago the finally gave up and now have their own labled synthetic. In the Corvette I have used both Mobil One and Royal Purple. Some swear by Amsoil, in fact I have used it in both of my bikes. Good luck. Jack
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I have HEARD that switching a motor used purely on dino and then switching to full synthetic may cause leaks in the seals. I dont know how or why but I was just passing it on considering that is your scenario. Something about the different compounds eating the rubber seals away. Not sure but just a heads up for ya.
FYI: I use penzoil synthetic so I am not going against synthetics. I like them as they stan up to higher engine temps.
FYI: I use penzoil synthetic so I am not going against synthetics. I like them as they stan up to higher engine temps.
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A few years ago my '86 Blazer (4.3cubic inch=350X0.75) eventually began 'using' oil after it had about 150,000 miles. Consumption slowly crept up to >1qt/1000 miles at 165,000. My dad (who worked in the refining business) suggested switching to synthetic.
It was a miracle!
'Consumption' went down to 1qt/3000 miles. Gave the Blazer to one of my kids who kept it 'till it had way over 200,000 miles and consumption remained less than 1qt/2000 miles.
Good enough for me.
Good luck.
PS it was Mobil 1 and my dad insisted keeping changes at 3000 miles regardless of what oil was used. He said it was contamination via blow-by that ruined oil, not age.
It was a miracle!
'Consumption' went down to 1qt/3000 miles. Gave the Blazer to one of my kids who kept it 'till it had way over 200,000 miles and consumption remained less than 1qt/2000 miles.
Good enough for me.
Good luck.
PS it was Mobil 1 and my dad insisted keeping changes at 3000 miles regardless of what oil was used. He said it was contamination via blow-by that ruined oil, not age.
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The plan is to keep it. So, bottom line, it sounds like there is no issues switching to synthetic (such as leaks developing, etc) if the car had been run on non-synthetic. I use Mobil 1 in my other cars so I guess I'll just switch to Mobil 1.
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At one time I had an 88 that had a small oil leak around the valve covers. Switched it from dino to Mobil 1, leak did NOT get any larger.
Car felt "happier" with the synthetic.
YMMV
Car felt "happier" with the synthetic.
YMMV
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I've saw a comparison done on Horsepower TV a few years back between the standard dino oil and Royal Purple Synth. They actually showed a small increase in horse power by switching to the synth oil.
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Originally Posted by B!@cK 86 V3tt3
I have HEARD that switching a motor used purely on dino and then switching to full synthetic may cause leaks in the seals. I dont know how or why but I was just passing it on considering that is your scenario. Something about the different compounds eating the rubber seals away. Not sure but just a heads up for ya.
There are many myths circulating regarding synthetic oils and seal leakage. Due to the significant variation in synthetic oil base stock, blanket statements about synthetic oils and seal leakage may be inappropriate. Many synthetics have a highly processed petroleum basestock. Others such as AMSOIL and Mobil 1 have a PAO basestock, which tends to shrink seals. And yet others, such as Redline use an ester basestock which tends to swell seals. Most synthetics contain higher levels of detergents, which will clean sludge from seals exposing them to oil.
If you have a clean engine and you are experiencing no leaks, then you should not have any leaks with AMSOIL or other quality synthetics. On the other hand, if the engine contains sludge due to age or inappropriate maintenance practices, you may experience a temporary leak. When the seals have gone for sometime without oil contacting and nourishing the seals due to blockage from sludge, they will harden and shrink. Since most synthetics, including AMSOIL, contain a significant amount of detergents, they will clean and remove this sludge exposing dried out seals to the oil. Depending on the synthetic oil used, this leakage may or may not be temporary. AMSOIL uses other additives such as Ester which will improve the seal’s suppleness and counters the shrinkage of the PAO basestock Based on reports I've read, AMSOIL should swell the seal 3% to 5%. But, if the seal has a mechanical fault, such as a crack or tear, then AMSOIL can't repair the damage. How other synthetics effect the seals is highly dependent on their basestock.
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When I bought my `91 I switched to 5w-30 Mobil synthetic. 40k+ miles later it hasn't leaked one drop. The only difference I have noticed is cooler oil temp.
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I always add 3 quarts of synthetic to the oil at oil changes.
never had a poblem, and I did notice lower operating temps that other friends that used regular ashless dispersant oils
never had a poblem, and I did notice lower operating temps that other friends that used regular ashless dispersant oils
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Can I also ask something . Ee, I do not seem to find 5w30 Mobil 1
anywhere in my area. 5w40 is existent but rare while 10w40 is in abundance . Sticker and manual recommend 5w30 for vette but what about those that I have available here . I heard once about those 40 weight , 50 weight , but that science .. well I do not remember exactly anymore . Maybe somebody can help ?
anywhere in my area. 5w40 is existent but rare while 10w40 is in abundance . Sticker and manual recommend 5w30 for vette but what about those that I have available here . I heard once about those 40 weight , 50 weight , but that science .. well I do not remember exactly anymore . Maybe somebody can help ?
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I run Mobil 1 10W30 in my 93 coupe(It's a Ruby) I run Castrol Dino 10W30 in everything else. I change the oil in the Vette once a year, maybe 3,000 miles. I change the oil in the truck 4 times a year, 12,000 miles. For 1 oil change a year why not?
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Originally Posted by cyclist7531
I've recently purchased a 91 vette w/stock L98. According to the previous owner he used dino oil. In my other cars I've always used synthetic. Is there any advantages/disadvantages from switching to synthetic or should I continue to stay with the dino oil. It runs fine, no leaks, etc. I've heard all the stories about leaking, etc. if you switch from dino to synthetic, but would appreciate input from this group. I'm happy using dino oil and doing regular oil changes (car is a weekend driver so won't be putting that many miles on). Also, if sticking with dino oil any favorites? Again, it's been years since I've used dino oil and would like a couple of recommendations of what oil to use in this car.
Thanks,
mark
Thanks,
mark
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I recommend regular Mobil 5W-30. Its not synthetic but is very good at cleaning the engine and revitalizing old seals. My '85 burned oil due to some bad seals that I was going to replace and since I switched to Mobil its stopped burning it and runs smoother too! I used to use Castrol GTX by the way.
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Originally Posted by cyclist7531
I've recently purchased a 91 vette w/stock L98. According to the previous owner he used dino oil. In my other cars I've always used synthetic. Is there any advantages/disadvantages from switching to synthetic or should I continue to stay with the dino oil. It runs fine, no leaks, etc. I've heard all the stories about leaking, etc. if you switch from dino to synthetic, but would appreciate input from this group. I'm happy using dino oil and doing regular oil changes (car is a weekend driver so won't be putting that many miles on). Also, if sticking with dino oil any favorites? Again, it's been years since I've used dino oil and would like a couple of recommendations of what oil to use in this car.
Thanks,
mark
Thanks,
mark