My new AFR Eliminators came today
10-02-2008, 09:40 PM
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My new AFR Eliminators came today
The UPS truck came and delivered all the parts I've been stockpiling.
My new AFR Eliminators
These things are a work of art!
Killer springs
I also got Titanium retainers.
My new AFR Eliminators
These things are a work of art!
Killer springs
I also got Titanium retainers.
I hope to have a set this winter.
10-02-2008, 10:53 PM
#5
That's another thing people forget or don't realize. The build quality of these heads is just as incredible as the flow numbers they put out.
Just an all round killer head that's ready to bolt on out of the box not to mention we get frequent Q&A sessions from the designer himself (Tony Mamo) on here to help us out in our applications. Can't go wrong with these
Looking forward to seeing your results Brian!
Just an all round killer head that's ready to bolt on out of the box not to mention we get frequent Q&A sessions from the designer himself (Tony Mamo) on here to help us out in our applications. Can't go wrong with these
Looking forward to seeing your results Brian!
10-02-2008, 11:33 PM
#6
Tech Contributor
Clearly you bought into the "Pack Mentality" and the AFR leg-humpers club. I mean we all know that there are more cost effective heads out there. Geez, what are you thinking Brian?
Did I mention the pair I bought from Vette Threat are in my garage waiting for me to put together the 383 bottom end?
Did I mention the pair I bought from Vette Threat are in my garage waiting for me to put together the 383 bottom end?
10-03-2008, 01:14 AM
#7
I mean we all know that there are more cost effective heads out there. Geez, what are you thinking Brian?
205cc Intake Port Volume
Fully CNC Ported Intake Runners
Fully CNC Ported Exhaust Runners
58cc Combustion Chamber Volume
All Edges Fully Hand De-burred
Steel Jacketed Viton valve Seals
Stainless Steel Super-Flo Int/Exh Valves
2.020" Intake & 1.600" Exhaust Valve Dia.
Pacalloy Beehive Springs for .600" net valve lift
4130 ChromeMoly Hardened Retainers, Locks, and Locators
Less flow heavier valve train and beehive springs? In the words of Dr Evil: "How about NOOOOOOO Scot!"
Did I mention the pair I bought from Vette Threat are in my garage waiting for me to put together the 383 bottom end?
10-03-2008, 04:35 AM
#10
Le Mans Master
Keep an eye on the Ti retainers, my springs chewed through one of mine after about 2 years of use...luckily the inner spring kept the valve from dropping into the engine.
10-03-2008, 08:33 AM
#11
Safety Car
I have a set of the original AFR 190 LT1 heads that I put on in about 1998 or 1999.
They have titanium retainers and I now have about 40K miles on them.
No problems so far -- never been touched.
Did you go with extreme springs?
Tom Piper
10-03-2008, 09:06 AM
#12
Race Director
Titanium Retainers on my 210's, probably 15-20k miles, no issues.
Brian, are you going to flow them?
The NEW 195 number are quite a bit better than the old AFR 210 flow numbers that I have, congrats!
Brian, are you going to flow them?
The NEW 195 number are quite a bit better than the old AFR 210 flow numbers that I have, congrats!
10-03-2008, 02:41 PM
#15
Racer
It's also nice to know that all of the LT-series Street Eliminators come with titanium retainers.
My 180 SBC & 195 LT4 AFR Eliminators are so meaty and the decks so robust that each AFR head weighed 10 lbs more than a GMPP Fast Burn head.
Also made the Fast Burn heads look fragile.
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10-03-2008, 02:54 PM
#16
Burning Brakes
What I think is interesting is that all the supposedly well qualified engine guys on this forum are all praising the purchase and use of the nice AFR head...on an old, tired bottom end that will not hold up to any type of racing duty! Yeah, great idea, spend all your money on heads/cam/blower and put together a combination that will blow up! I have to ask; how many of you have operated 600-700hp engines in a racing environment? Did you find that a stock 140K mile bottom end fit the bill? You guys are amazing... Have you even seen first hand what happens to an engine when it lets go during a race; not jerking around on the street, I'm talking a connecting rod failure at 6500-8500RPM. Let me tell you, it isn't pretty (pistons kill the cylinder heads, rods kill the block and cam…) and he just might be buying these heads all over again; along with a block and even a camshaft. This is pretty good indication of how this forum works... Have you guys ever heard the phrase “you have to finish the race to win it”?
10-03-2008, 03:08 PM
#17
Le Mans Master
What I think is interesting is that all the supposedly well qualified engine guys on this forum are all praising the purchase and use of the nice AFR head...on an old, tired bottom end that will not hold up to any type of racing duty! Yeah, great idea, spend all your money on heads/cam/blower and put together a combination that will blow up! I have to ask; how many of you have operated 600-700hp engines in a racing environment? Did you find that a stock 140K mile bottom end fit the bill? You guys are amazing... Have you even seen first hand what happens to an engine when it lets go during a race; not jerking around on the street, I'm talking a connecting rod failure at 6500-8500RPM. Let me tell you, it isn't pretty (pistons kill the cylinder heads, rods kill the block and cam…) and he just might be buying these heads all over again; along with a block and even a camshaft. This is pretty good indication of how this forum works... Have you guys ever heard the phrase “you have to finish the race to win it”?
10-03-2008, 03:20 PM
#19
Le Mans Master
Broken one...
About to break...almost all of them where like this, you can see where the spring was just slowly cutting through the retainer
The springs are not over the top springs at all, both the retainers and springs are made by Isky, springs are #8005-A...400lbs/in rate.
10-03-2008, 03:25 PM
#20
I would recommend inspecting any new cylinder head for machining trash. Stick your fingers in the ports to feel for rough edges on the cnc cuts, and to see if there is a silver film oun your finger.
Never trust any new casting to be clean.
Thinking about heading to NED on sunday to race the daily driver. Let me know if you are aware of any locals heading up.
Never trust any new casting to be clean.
Thinking about heading to NED on sunday to race the daily driver. Let me know if you are aware of any locals heading up.