Red93Vette

I recently replaced the front brake pads on my '93. Now everytime I hit a bump the calipers rattle, Any ideas??

Sidney004

Do you remember if the "anti-rattle" spring clips were attached to the pads?

Red93Vette

I don't remember any springs with the pads or in fact coming off the old pads. I have also looked thru the FSM and don't see anything that would refer to those.

rodj

My FSM shows nothing either but my '87 fronts have a flat piece of spring steel that mounts in the caliper opening where the pad clips are and applies pressure to the two pads.

theadmiral94

Not sure if your 93 has the same brake pad/caliper configuration as our 94, but in case it does, here's a few things to look at:

1. If you removed the caliper mounting bracket, what torque on the mounting bolts did you use? The 94 manual (and I remember many other years too) had an error for the torque, should be a max of 137 ft lb -- more will likely break the bolts. So, any chance the bolts have broken? BTW, FSM recommends replacing these bolts whenever removed and the new ones come with "adhesive".

2. the inner and outer pads have a backing plate with two metal-cup-like 'spring' retainers which slip into the pistons on one side, and the caliper bracket's two holes on the other side -- any chance your replacement pads were not OEM (PBR - Australia) and were missing these backing plates?

3. The caliper is held into the caliper-mounting bracket by the pad's tabs trapped under a 'retainer pin' with its 'circlip' holding the 'pin' in place. The PBR pad kit comes with two different length 'retainer pins' with "circlip grooves cut in different positions" (one for 'base' and the other for 'heavy duty' (J55?)). Might the wrong pin lengths have been installed or the 'circlip' left off or broken off (especially if reused)?

4. Might the brake system be J55 (heavy duty) and the 'base' brake pads installed instead (or vica-versa)? Or might the brake system have been upgraded and the wrong pads were installed (C5 brakes)?

Red93Vette

Thanks for the thoughts but;

The caliper mounting bracket bolts are good and tight.

The pads are not OEM but they had the cup like springs and fit in perfectly.

The retainer pin fits properly and the circlip is in place.

When I examine the caliper in place there is the slightest bit of play. It would seem that this is what causes the rattle when I hit a bump. I'm thinking that there should be some type of spring that would hold the caliper in place and absorb the shock.

WW7

If you don't have anti rattle clips in place every time you hit the brake pedel its going to make noise and every time you hit a bump its going to rattle, plan and simple...WW

jrp

Let's clarify. You said that you didn't remember any springs and then say that they are there. Did you check? The springs/clips people are talking about are at the far right in the 2nd picture and, when attached to the pads, fit into the bracket as shown in the 1st. Both pads on each caliper need them. You'll be able to manually move the caliper up & down, but should feel the resistance of the springs.

Red93Vette

That looks like what is missing. I have never seen them before, the anti rattle clips. I guess I can pick them up at an auto parts store.

Thanks, that should cure the problem.

josephf31

have like 8 extra of those laying around if you want them, in case you can't get them or they want an exorbitant amount of $ let me know.

jrp

Hopefully you still have your old pads around. If they didn't have this problem, it is probable that the clips were on them. They slide right off and on.

Edit - Now I understand what you meant by "cup like springs"; the two which hold the pad into the caliper.

corvette-pilot

got mine at Advance Auto Parts, just a couple of bucks. What gets me is the previous owner went to a Chevy dealer to get the brakes done and THEY even left them out

fuzzydawg

The Hawk website doesn't distinguish between J55 and regular... aren't the pads the same? I just bought a set of Hawk HPS pads, planning to install them next week... first time for me... do I have the right pads?

corvette-pilot

Red93Vette

Great photos. Thanks I am definetly missing those anti rattle clips. They weren't on the old pads and did not come with the new ones. Having trouble getting them from a store around here. One place wanted over $36 for the clips. Next week I'll be in an area where there is an Advance Auto Parts as you suggested above. Thanks again. I'll finally be rattle free.

Sidney004

Same pads and I also have some anti-rattle clips lying around as well so now you have 2 people that can get them to you, $36 is a joke for those. I don't think it hurts anything to drive around without them, it just rattles.

RUU

NAPA also has them:
http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPage...re+Kit+-+Front

(UP 83014A if the link doesn't work) That's where I got mine when I determined that was the cause of my rattling last year.

theadmiral94

FYI, now noticed the aforementioned anti-rattle devices -- must have been late and didn't remember installing them, so perhaps they came already mounted to the new GM PBR pads I installed.

The FSM calls them a 'Bias Spring' and shows it mounted to the left side of the outer pad (e.g. passenger side would be upper edge or trailing edge of pad).

And sorry, but I can't also offer old clips as I threw out all the old parts years ago...

ks5shooter

The pin and rattle clips come in a kit from NAPA only 5 bucks or so

Ronald Howard

Thank you very much, this post was very helpful.