Hooker Super Comps Vs. TPiS Headers
03-17-2010, 02:17 PM
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Hooker Super Comps Vs. TPiS Headers
I've been considering both of the headers lately, and I'm not sure which is better, seeing that both are 1 3/4", 3" collector, and ceramic coated. I've noticed that the TPiS and Super Comps have radically different primary designs, so I was wondering, which will make more power?
Pics for reference:
TPiS= http://www.tpis.com/catalogimages/C4_Headers.jpg
Super Comps= http://static.summitracing.com/globa...hok-2451-1.jpg
Pics for reference:
TPiS= http://www.tpis.com/catalogimages/C4_Headers.jpg
Super Comps= http://static.summitracing.com/globa...hok-2451-1.jpg
03-17-2010, 02:35 PM
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I went with the TPiS because it allows you to use the factory header bolts and all the accessory brackets. I have since removed all the accessories I had so to do over I would get the Hookers cause they are cheaper.
03-17-2010, 03:04 PM
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The pic linked is not what Hooker's look like***. Reference a recent thread on fitment.
If I were choosing a new header now, I'd probably pick between the EM and TPIS. Thicker flanges, heavier tubes, quieter sound. TPIS are supposed to have 2" standoffs which might make for easiest installation. EM's are well-received as well.
Hookers might be the only one of those three touting tuned (equal) length primaries. So, it's possible they'd make a hair more power. But for our type application, the difference would be minimal. OTOH, the longevity difference might not be. I think TPIS/EM are supposed to last better.
***: Note: Summit's pic's may not be actual part. In this case, it's not. I looked all over before finding what the 2149/51 looked like. Don't judge a book by it's cover.
If I were choosing a new header now, I'd probably pick between the EM and TPIS. Thicker flanges, heavier tubes, quieter sound. TPIS are supposed to have 2" standoffs which might make for easiest installation. EM's are well-received as well.
Hookers might be the only one of those three touting tuned (equal) length primaries. So, it's possible they'd make a hair more power. But for our type application, the difference would be minimal. OTOH, the longevity difference might not be. I think TPIS/EM are supposed to last better.
***: Note: Summit's pic's may not be actual part. In this case, it's not. I looked all over before finding what the 2149/51 looked like. Don't judge a book by it's cover.
03-17-2010, 09:42 PM
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Why do people buy headers by name and not by what is best for the engine?
Stock to medium build - 1 5/8 primaries
medium to high - 1 3/4 primaries
extreme - 2 - 2 1/4
Stock to medium build - 1 5/8 primaries
medium to high - 1 3/4 primaries
extreme - 2 - 2 1/4
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03-17-2010, 09:45 PM
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03-17-2010, 10:51 PM
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I got the TPiS headers for the same reason, easy to install.
03-17-2010, 10:59 PM
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TPIS currently cause I purchased a set for a good price from a forum member. I would love to go with EM's 1 7/8 primary headers with Burns collectors.
03-17-2010, 11:54 PM
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03-18-2010, 12:49 AM
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Hooker Super Comp 1 3/4 here for a strip only car. For my application, I think the equal length primaries might help.
03-18-2010, 01:15 AM
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03-18-2010, 01:23 AM
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I found the thread about ceramic coating, and I definitely feel that I need it; however, is it better to buy an uncoated header and have it coated or to buy the header coated from the manufacturer?
03-18-2010, 07:55 AM
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I think all mentioned are close and good products. I am not a fan of any slip fit tubes as they will eventually leak. Ceramic is definitely the move for heat, however, if doing hookers they did have a poor coating (haven't seen any newer ones). I would buy uncoated and send out for the ceramic (money should be about the same with better quality coating). My recommend is buying a 1 7/8" tube which will give you some room in the future for additional mods.
03-18-2010, 12:12 PM
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I think all mentioned are close and good products. I am not a fan of any slip fit tubes as they will eventually leak. Ceramic is definitely the move for heat, however, if doing hookers they did have a poor coating (haven't seen any newer ones). I would buy uncoated and send out for the ceramic (money should be about the same with better quality coating). My recommend is buying a 1 7/8" tube which will give you some room in the future for additional mods.
03-18-2010, 12:50 PM
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I like TPIS products. They are well made and the claims/accuracy are more detailed and
explained than most other corvette mod manufacturers.
I picked up a small book of theirs years ago and it was really informative.
I would love to drop my vette off at their racing shop with unlimited funds and come back a week later with my jaw on the floor.
explained than most other corvette mod manufacturers.
I picked up a small book of theirs years ago and it was really informative.
I would love to drop my vette off at their racing shop with unlimited funds and come back a week later with my jaw on the floor.
03-18-2010, 02:42 PM
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oopps....I meant 1 3/4" and yes the 1 7/8 is by em, and I remember problems as well. sorry bout that
03-18-2010, 02:47 PM
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My headers were coated by Hooker. I would definitely recommend the ceramic coating unless you buy stainless steel headers. As mseven mentioned, Hooker does a lousy job of coating. If you have time, buy them uncoated and have another company do a better job.
03-18-2010, 05:10 PM
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Aaaahhh...????... MMMmmmmmm... well? ............... no.
It won't hurt [ maybe], they will look cool, but don't expect a big bang for the buck.
That's a lot of volume for a modest motor. You have to fill those pipes, and four big old tubes require a lot of filling before they work any pluses for you.
Though at 7,000 rpm things might pick up!
TJM