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Old 08-18-2010, 08:01 PM
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Is white Spark comming out of the Spark plugs enough to fire up the motor Or do I have have Blue Spark.

I tryed to Adjust the air gap on the plugs but no change.

I should I gett a hotter set of plugs.
Old 08-18-2010, 08:18 PM
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If you have a stock motor, stock heat range and gap is all that's needed. Changing heat range will have little/no change on startup.
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It has some up grades Heads cam injectors and it's Chipped.

It sure be nice If I could get the car to run.

I check yes the piston all the way up on TDC yes both vavles are closed.
Yes the rottor is pointing to #1.

The plugs are getting wet.

I wish I knew how to make sure the injectors are firing at the correct time.


I getting tired of this car and it will not run.
Old 08-18-2010, 08:49 PM
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You might want to post in the C4 section. I'm assuming you have a C4 since you have a distributor.
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This is the C-4 section.

Originally Posted by dougbfresh
You might want to post in the C4 section. I'm assuming you have a C4 since you have a distributor.
Old 08-18-2010, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
You might want to post in the C4 section. I'm assuming you have a C4 since you have a distributor.
You might wanna try being in the C5 Section

I digress...What's the problem you're having? Won't fire when turning over? Heat range won't help that.. If you're seeing spark than spark isn't the problem (timing is a different story)
Old 08-18-2010, 09:44 PM
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Timming is on the mark.

It some were else I pulled the pulgs again I had wet plugs but there not wet anymore the exhaust manifold is getting warm.

So I gettting fire just trying to make sure I getting enough.

I jummped the fuel pump so it running I going to check for fuel pressure.
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need a lot more info. did the car just die, did you do repairs and it wont start need to know a lot more in order to try to help.
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Originally Posted by hooked073
need a lot more info. did the car just die, did you do repairs and it wont start need to know a lot more in order to try to help.
It a new motor 355 Trick flow super23 195 heads Howards Cam SLP runners eldenbrock intake.
New 24# FIC injectors Chipped.

When pulled the old motor fro the swap It was running fine.

But after dropping the new motor in I can not get it to run.

Valve train is good on the money put the motor on TDC used a screwdriver to make sure the #1 piston it all the way up on Compression stroke on #1.

Made sure the rotor is pointing to the correct plug wire.

All the vales are opening and closing at the right times.

Cam put in right.

I think I having fuel pressure issues I ordered a new fuel pump relay.

the plug seems like they are not getting any fuel I just pulled them after turnning the motor over with the starter.

I been fighting with this issue for about 2 weeks now and yes all the fun of putting a new motor in the vett are gone I just want to get it running now.
Old 08-18-2010, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hooked073
need a lot more info. did the car just die, did you do repairs and it wont start need to know a lot more in order to try to help.
If you are getting spark across the gap that is enough to make the car run. Can you tell us what led to this condition?
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I tryoing to figure out why the car willn't run it a new never before ran motor.

I have done every thing I know and can think of to get the car to run nothing has worked so far.

I just making sure I gettinm enough spark so the car will start.

I still leaning toward fuel issues.



But what I don't under stand when I spray into the motor still is not starting But the exaust manifolds are gewtting warm.

It sounds like its poping like it wants to start and it not 180 out.

Originally Posted by Muffin
If you are getting spark across the gap that is enough to make the car run. Can you tell us what led to this condition?
Old 08-18-2010, 10:59 PM
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there a 100 different things that could be wrong when you r/r a motor. The first question would be if the builder a know builder a lot can go wrong right there, rods pistions installed wrong. broken rings durning install, cam and crank gear not lined up right ect.? the more information you can give and answer the more likely youll get the right answers
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Do you know what a "noid light" is? Its a little light you hook up to your injectors to see if they are getting "juice" to fire.

You could disconnect an injector and hook a meter up to it and crank it to see if you are getting voltage.

Sounds to me that something is preventing your injectors from pulsating.
Old 08-18-2010, 11:16 PM
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I put a VOM on the injector plugs yes they are pulsing.

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix
Do you know what a "noid light" is? Its a little light you hook up to your injectors to see if they are getting "juice" to fire.

You could disconnect an injector and hook a meter up to it and crank it to see if you are getting voltage.

Sounds to me that something is preventing your injectors from pulsating.
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Whats the fuel pressure in the fuel rail doing whilst your trying to start?
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Originally Posted by Lemme
Whats the fuel pressure in the fuel rail doing whilst your trying to start?
Dont know yet i trying to borrow one.
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Originally Posted by thedudeman321
You might wanna try being in the C5 Section

I digress...What's the problem you're having? Won't fire when turning over? Heat range won't help that.. If you're seeing spark than spark isn't the problem (timing is a different story)
This was in the C5 section, the mods moved it here.

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Old 08-23-2010, 08:56 PM
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This car is got me mad I put the motor back on TDC and pulled the valve cover just to make sure things were still good and found bent push rods again.

This sucks.

Here a couple picture of push rod probems.









The intake has the long though holes going though the head the exhaust have the very short though hole though the heads.

Is this where the push rods are getting bent at ??.

Next step is pulling one of the heads to see if there any damage under there.
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Marv are you sure you have the cam timing right (the cam gear lined up with the crank gear like it is supposed to be?) Also how are you adjusting the valves? The way you said again I am assuming this is not the first time you have gone threw this if that is the case I would do like you said and pull the heads like you said I might even pull the cam I have seen a few SB chev cams wasted because valves were adjusted to tight before the cars even ran.
Old 08-23-2010, 10:14 PM
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Cam timing should be good.

We are thinking the push rods are rubbing against the head but I pulling the Heads just to make sure.

Originally Posted by hooked073
Marv are you sure you have the cam timing right (the cam gear lined up with the crank gear like it is supposed to be?) Also how are you adjusting the valves? The way you said again I am assuming this is not the first time you have gone threw this if that is the case I would do like you said and pull the heads like you said I might even pull the cam I have seen a few SB chev cams wasted because valves were adjusted to tight before the cars even ran.


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