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Old 03-14-2012, 02:50 PM
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Can someone tell me if I have to drain the coolant to replace the Thermostat, it looks like the rad is low enough but wanted to ask the experts...thanks in advance.

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Even if your coolant system was completely full.. you would loose about 2 - 3 pints
Squeeze the upper hose.. if there is nomore coolant in the upper hose.. that would be the perfect level to work with
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Originally Posted by THE 383 admiral
Even if your coolant system was completely full.. you would loose about 2 - 3 pints
Squeeze the upper hose.. if there is nomore coolant in the upper hose.. that would be the perfect level to work with
Exactly what I was thinking, and did squeeze the upper hose until it quit gurgling just didn't want a mess on top of engine...thanks for the reply!!!

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Ps...will I need to do anything else after installing the 160 stat, reprogram or just fill and run?...Thanks!

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84 not sure why there is not a definition file out there to program.
Why a 160 a 180 is more than a enough temp drop.. for even moded engines
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I ran a 160deg T-stat for 12yrs with mileage from 98K to >200k with no problems, i.e. valve train looked nice and shiney.

Lower coolant temp gave me two benefits:
-more HP
-the ECM does not call for EGR until colant temp is >175 deg F.
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84 not sure why there is not a definition file out there to program.
Why a 160 a 180 is more than a enough temp drop.. for even moded engines
From all the reading I've done this is the way to go...now if I can just get the last bolt to budge on the stat housing...sprayed it and let it set, hope it comes out without breaking.
Thanks! G
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Originally Posted by 65Z01
I ran a 160deg T-stat for 12yrs with mileage from 98K to >200k with no problems, i.e. valve train looked nice and shiney.

Lower coolant temp gave me two benefits:
-more HP
-the ECM does not call for EGR until colant temp is >175 deg F.
that is what I'm hoping for...now if I can get the last of the two bolts on the stat housing to move without breaking, I did spray it and it's soaking, not sure that will help, just don't want to break it...

Thanks! G
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Expect to take a hit on your mpg w/ a 160* stat.
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Expect to take a hit on your mpg w/ a 160* stat.
Really, how does that work? Didn't think about that...

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Your car's computer uses the coolant temp sensor (among other sensors) to fuel the engine, a cooler engine needs more fuel to run properly. Remember efi engines dont have chokes which restrict air (or richen up the mixture), so the ecm uses the cts to richen the mixture. Thats why efi engines run better cold then carbed egines, they get a much more accurate mixture.
So running an efi engine at a cooler temp is like having the choke closed alittle. You might not notice the mpg drop in warm weather because your engine temp will excede 160* while going down the road. But if its cool, like 50s or lower, your coolant temp might be close to 160* while going down the road.
I used to live in sw michigan, ran a 180 stat for a year, I noticed a 3-4 mpg drop during the early spring & late fall.
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Originally Posted by ex-x-fire
Your car's computer uses the coolant temp sensor (among other sensors) to fuel the engine, a cooler engine needs more fuel to run properly. Remember efi engines dont have chokes which restrict air (or richen up the mixture), so the ecm uses the cts to richen the mixture. Thats why efi engines run better cold then carbed egines, they get a much more accurate mixture.
So running an efi engine at a cooler temp is like having the choke closed alittle. You might not notice the mpg drop in warm weather because your engine temp will excede 160* while going down the road. But if its cool, like 50s or lower, your coolant temp might be close to 160* while going down the road.
I used to live in sw michigan, ran a 180 stat for a year, I noticed a 3-4 mpg drop during the early spring & late fall.
Interesting, and makes sense...just didn't think about it. appreciate the info. I just want the car to run cooler. It sure has been a very unusual winter in Western MI...I guess it's been that way in most of the country.


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I know the guys over here in wi. that plow driveways for $$ have been crying this winter.
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Originally Posted by ex-x-fire
I know the guys over here in wi. that plow driveways for $$ have been crying this winter.
The Ski resorts over here have had a bad season...I feel bad for them but have enjoyed the mild winter..
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Originally Posted by GMAN1953
Interesting, and makes sense...just didn't think about it. appreciate the info. I just want the car to run cooler. It sure has been a very unusual winter in Western MI...I guess it's been that way in most of the country.


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Your engine was designed to run between 185* and 228*. If it ain't broke , don't fix it.
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Originally Posted by pkazsr
Your engine was designed to run between 185* and 228*. If it ain't broke , don't fix it.
I understand....thanks for the info.

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