Help on electric door lock acuator
03-01-2014, 05:50 PM
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Help on electric door lock acuator
I have a 1995 c4. I have removed the door panel and I feel stupid but I am not sure how to get the actuator off. Picture attached of door panel. The picture is sideways sorry
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03-01-2014, 06:06 PM
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The easiest way that I have found is that the large aluminum plate has to be pulled away so you cn get the actuator. This is no easy feat...and you will also bring the door latch mechanism with it. SO...you will have to disconnect the rod from the handle to the latch mechanism and then the "E" clip that holds the plate on the backside of the lock cylinder...OR...unclip the plastic clip that hold the rod to the metal plate on the backside of the lock cylinder.
Do not forget to get the T-15 torx screw at the weatherstrip by the latch mechanism..because it also holds the system of parts together.
Make sure you mark the upper bolt for your rear window stop.
Other than un-clipping any wiring harness retainer clips...it is pretty easy and I can get it done quite quickly...but I have done about 100 or so.
DUB
Do not forget to get the T-15 torx screw at the weatherstrip by the latch mechanism..because it also holds the system of parts together.
Make sure you mark the upper bolt for your rear window stop.
Other than un-clipping any wiring harness retainer clips...it is pretty easy and I can get it done quite quickly...but I have done about 100 or so.
DUB
03-02-2014, 02:03 AM
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The easiest way that I have found is that the large aluminum plate has to be pulled away so you cn get the actuator. This is no easy feat...and you will also bring the door latch mechanism with it. SO...you will have to disconnect the rod from the handle to the latch mechanism and then the "E" clip that holds the plate on the backside of the lock cylinder...OR...unclip the plastic clip that hold the rod to the metal plate on the backside of the lock cylinder.
Do not forget to get the T-15 torx screw at the weatherstrip by the latch mechanism..because it also holds the system of parts together.
Make sure you mark the upper bolt for your rear window stop.
Other than un-clipping any wiring harness retainer clips...it is pretty easy and I can get it done quite quickly...but I have done about 100 or so.
DUB
Do not forget to get the T-15 torx screw at the weatherstrip by the latch mechanism..because it also holds the system of parts together.
Make sure you mark the upper bolt for your rear window stop.
Other than un-clipping any wiring harness retainer clips...it is pretty easy and I can get it done quite quickly...but I have done about 100 or so.
DUB
03-02-2014, 05:27 AM
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Replacing the actuator did not solve my problem. Any other ideas would be helpful. The drivers side door lock will not unlock with the key bob. Passenger side still will. The security system is on but the driver side door will not lock when I exit the car like it used to
Factory Service Manual NOT Chilton or any others an original by Helm Publishing. It should be a 2 - book set and you need BOTH!
03-02-2014, 08:02 AM
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A FSM for diagnostics is suggested, you've thrown a part at it once and I guess it was a good part. Was it? You should be able to confirm operation of the old "on the bench". Did you check for continuity in the car, do you have a test light?
Factory Service Manual NOT Chilton or any others an original by Helm Publishing. It should be a 2 - book set and you need BOTH!
Factory Service Manual NOT Chilton or any others an original by Helm Publishing. It should be a 2 - book set and you need BOTH!
03-03-2014, 06:48 PM
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I am going to look into this due to having a manual at work and I am at home now. I do know that if your car has the Pass-key entry when all you have to do is walk up to the car...and the doors unlock...the fob can be programmed to unlock the left door OR both doors or not unlock any door. But I do not think that it can unlock the right door only. Like I mentioned..I will look into it.
Does the power door lock switch on the door panel lock both doors when you go and lock them??? Need to know.
DUB
Does the power door lock switch on the door panel lock both doors when you go and lock them??? Need to know.
DUB
03-03-2014, 10:38 PM
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Surprise surprise....it's almost like we were JUST talking about wonders of the C4 door design in another thread....
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03-04-2014, 03:02 PM
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I am going to look into this due to having a manual at work and I am at home now. I do know that if your car has the Pass-key entry when all you have to do is walk up to the car...and the doors unlock...the fob can be programmed to unlock the left door OR both doors or not unlock any door. But I do not think that it can unlock the right door only. Like I mentioned..I will look into it.
Does the power door lock switch on the door panel lock both doors when you go and lock them??? Need to know.
DUB
Does the power door lock switch on the door panel lock both doors when you go and lock them??? Need to know.
DUB
I first noticed when the pass-key entry stopped working. I'm guessing its going to be circuit now???? Someone else suggested the motor but I haven't looked into that. I'm silly about certain things and I swear if I can't get this working I will sell this one and buy another.
03-04-2014, 05:58 PM
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OK...Stupid question.
Did the old fob work BEFORE you replaced it???
Did the old fob allow you to walk up to the car and the door(s) unlock??? and then walk away and the door(s) lock and the horn"toots"????
So you "say" you can use the power door lock switch on the door panels to LOCK and also UNLOCK both doors...correct???? Both will lock and then unlock...correct???
A pass-key should allow you to walk away and the door(s) will lock on their own if you programmed it to do so..and the horn will "toot"...and then when you walk within range of the antennas....the doors will unlock (if you programmed it to do BOTH doors).
Are you using the fob without having to press any buttons???? I know the hatch release has to be pressed...but the door should unlock when you get within range...but that is if you programmed that mode in the fob.
DUB
Did the old fob work BEFORE you replaced it???
Did the old fob allow you to walk up to the car and the door(s) unlock??? and then walk away and the door(s) lock and the horn"toots"????
So you "say" you can use the power door lock switch on the door panels to LOCK and also UNLOCK both doors...correct???? Both will lock and then unlock...correct???
A pass-key should allow you to walk away and the door(s) will lock on their own if you programmed it to do so..and the horn will "toot"...and then when you walk within range of the antennas....the doors will unlock (if you programmed it to do BOTH doors).
Are you using the fob without having to press any buttons???? I know the hatch release has to be pressed...but the door should unlock when you get within range...but that is if you programmed that mode in the fob.
DUB
03-05-2014, 10:05 AM
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OK...Stupid question.
Did the old fob work BEFORE you replaced it???
Did the old fob allow you to walk up to the car and the door(s) unlock??? and then walk away and the door(s) lock and the horn"toots"????
So you "say" you can use the power door lock switch on the door panels to LOCK and also UNLOCK both doors...correct???? Both will lock and then unlock...correct???
A pass-key should allow you to walk away and the door(s) will lock on their own if you programmed it to do so..and the horn will "toot"...and then when you walk within range of the antennas....the doors will unlock (if you programmed it to do BOTH doors).
Are you using the fob without having to press any buttons???? I know the hatch release has to be pressed...but the door should unlock when you get within range...but that is if you programmed that mode in the fob.
DUB
Did the old fob work BEFORE you replaced it???
Did the old fob allow you to walk up to the car and the door(s) unlock??? and then walk away and the door(s) lock and the horn"toots"????
So you "say" you can use the power door lock switch on the door panels to LOCK and also UNLOCK both doors...correct???? Both will lock and then unlock...correct???
A pass-key should allow you to walk away and the door(s) will lock on their own if you programmed it to do so..and the horn will "toot"...and then when you walk within range of the antennas....the doors will unlock (if you programmed it to do BOTH doors).
Are you using the fob without having to press any buttons???? I know the hatch release has to be pressed...but the door should unlock when you get within range...but that is if you programmed that mode in the fob.
DUB
03-05-2014, 06:19 PM
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03-09-2014, 04:46 PM
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I looked in the FSM...and the fob should lock the doors when you walk away....and it should unlock the drivers door when you approach the car and get within range. If you have it set-up in the mode...it will also unlock the right door when you approach the car.
If it locks both doors and only will unlock the right door...something is wrong..obviously.
You wrote that by pressing the button..the right door will unlock but the drivers door does not. BUT...you said that if you use the power door lock switch and it will lock and unlock both doors.
You have circuit issue in my beliefs due to looking at the wiring schematic of the system...it is the only thing possible.
DUB
If it locks both doors and only will unlock the right door...something is wrong..obviously.
You wrote that by pressing the button..the right door will unlock but the drivers door does not. BUT...you said that if you use the power door lock switch and it will lock and unlock both doors.
You have circuit issue in my beliefs due to looking at the wiring schematic of the system...it is the only thing possible.
DUB
03-11-2014, 07:27 PM
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I ordered and received my FSM. In reading in there on the PKE system it mentioned that when you are setting the remote, the radio should be off. I had been leaving it on and only the passenger door was working. When I turned the radio off and set the remote---SURPRISE it worked. I feel totally stupid. Now that I have the FSM I will study more before I start assuming parts are bad. I wouldn't have bought it if someone had not recommended it. Thanks for all the help.
03-12-2014, 06:57 PM
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I ordered and received my FSM. In reading in there on the PKE system it mentioned that when you are setting the remote, the radio should be off. I had been leaving it on and only the passenger door was working. When I turned the radio off and set the remote---SURPRISE it worked. I feel totally stupid. Now that I have the FSM I will study more before I start assuming parts are bad. I wouldn't have bought it if someone had not recommended it. Thanks for all the help.
It was money well spent on getting the FSM. They are priceless to me.
DUB