C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

suggestions as alternative to Delco water pump?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-18-2015, 03:18 PM
  #1  
Joe C
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
Joe C's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Posts: 11,346
Received 700 Likes on 589 Posts

Default suggestions as alternative to Delco water pump?

85 L98 - any alternatives to an ACDelco water pump? I've been shopping around, and the ACDelco seems a bit pricey. any suggestions???
Old 07-18-2015, 04:14 PM
  #2  
c4cruiser
Team Owner

 
c4cruiser's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 1999
Location: Lacey WA RVN 68-69
Posts: 34,873
Received 476 Likes on 423 Posts
NCM Sinkhole Donor

Default

$41 and change at RockAuto for an AC Delco pump. $39 and change for a Bosch pump, same place.
Old 07-18-2015, 04:44 PM
  #3  
Joe C
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
Joe C's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Posts: 11,346
Received 700 Likes on 589 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by c4cruiser
$41 and change at RockAuto for an AC Delco pump. $39 and change for a Bosch pump, same place.
OK, this has me a bit confused - delco OE pump (real GM part) - $232, -- delco "professional" (3rd party replacement) - $43. I would really like an OE part, but at 5X the price - ??? for delco, professional, I've had good and bad experiences. not sure I want to take the chance, since it's a bunch of work replacing that booger!

Amazon.com: ACDelco 251-500 GM Original Equipment Water Pump with Gasket: Automotive Amazon.com: ACDelco 251-500 GM Original Equipment Water Pump with Gasket: Automotive

Amazon.com: ACDelco 252-664 Professional Water Pump: Automotive Amazon.com: ACDelco 252-664 Professional Water Pump: Automotive



has anyone had experience with airtex HD pumps?

https://www.rockauto.com/catalog/mor...nid=477&jpid=6
Old 07-18-2015, 05:35 PM
  #4  
WVZR-1
Team Owner

 
WVZR-1's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2003
Posts: 23,074
Received 2,259 Likes on 2,022 Posts

Default

If I had an original casting water pump I might actually consider a rebuild from a couple of the quality rebuilders that specialize in water pumps. They use premium bearings, seals and impellers - I believe I might have more confidence in their product than any of the product sold as NEW - OE equivalent.

Stewart might be an exception or one of the other performance pump suppliers.
Old 07-18-2015, 07:02 PM
  #5  
c4cruiser
Team Owner

 
c4cruiser's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 1999
Location: Lacey WA RVN 68-69
Posts: 34,873
Received 476 Likes on 423 Posts
NCM Sinkhole Donor

Default

The AC Delco 252-664 pump looks like a good deal at $43 with free shipping. A lot of auto repair shops will use AC Delco Professional parts as well as Bosch, Airtex, and even A1 Cardone. Most all of these will be remanufactured parts, not just rebuilt.

You didn't say how long you intend to keep your car or how much it is driven, but the 252-664 pump should work fine. While the description on the Amazon page doesn't indicate if it comes with gaskets, chances are that it does. In any event, any good parts store should have Fel-Pro gaskets for small block chevy water pumps.
Old 07-18-2015, 10:04 PM
  #6  
HAD2HAV2
Melting Slicks
 
HAD2HAV2's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2001
Location: MOORESVILLE NC
Posts: 2,968
Received 292 Likes on 235 Posts

Default

I’m running a FMI cast iron water pump on my 88. Need some black hi temp paint before installing. Got tired of replacing a higher dollar Aluminum pump that didn’t hold up.
Old 07-18-2015, 11:31 PM
  #7  
John A. Marker
Le Mans Master
 
John A. Marker's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2004
Location: Dublin CA
Posts: 5,107
Received 165 Likes on 146 Posts

Default

Joe,

I changed out the stock WP on my 85 to a FlowKooler Hi Flow Mechanical Water Pump from Summit and really liked the results. Kept the temperature down much better than the stock pump.
Old 07-19-2015, 10:36 AM
  #8  
ex-x-fire
Drifting
 
ex-x-fire's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,935
Received 191 Likes on 150 Posts

Default

I'd pay extra for an edelbrock, mine's nearly 20yrs old & has never leaked.
Old 07-19-2015, 11:13 PM
  #9  
gerardvg
Melting Slicks
 
gerardvg's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2009
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 3,455
Received 188 Likes on 169 Posts

Default

Brand does not really matter when it comes to water pumps, the pressed tin paddles cavitate and cannot pump coolant like a cast or cnc curved impeller.

Look around for some performance water pumps, they are designed to flow better. With the cast or cnc machined curved impeller and pump volude design/ shapes for best performance and larger 3/4'' bearings.

Unfortunatly there is a cover over the water pump impeller so is out of sight and most never really look at the woefull pressed tin paddles
Old 07-20-2015, 10:24 AM
  #10  
vader86
Team Owner
 
vader86's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2001
Location: Athens AL
Posts: 59,649
Received 1,401 Likes on 1,017 Posts
C7 of the Year - Unmodified Finalist 2021
C4 of Year Finalist (performance mods) 2019

Default

I run a Stewart
Old 04-27-2016, 09:30 AM
  #11  
colter
Burning Brakes
 
colter's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2015
Posts: 757
Likes: 0
Received 60 Likes on 58 Posts
Default

What brand did you go with? Been looking for a NEW L98 water pump but not one of the fancy pumps. i.e. just a stock replacement that will last.
Old 04-27-2016, 01:29 PM
  #12  
Joe C
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
Joe C's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Posts: 11,346
Received 700 Likes on 589 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by colter
What brand did you go with? Been looking for a NEW L98 water pump but not one of the fancy pumps. i.e. just a stock replacement that will last.
took John Marker's advice and went with FlowKooler Hi Flow Mechanical Water Pump from Summit. seems to me it was a tad over $100 w/ free shipping. been in the car for close to 1K miles - no issues so far. pricing, a bit more than a delco "professional" but much less than genuine GM.
Old 04-27-2016, 01:55 PM
  #13  
John A. Marker
Le Mans Master
 
John A. Marker's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2004
Location: Dublin CA
Posts: 5,107
Received 165 Likes on 146 Posts

Default

Joe,

Did you find that this pump keeps your temps down much lower?

John
Old 04-27-2016, 02:13 PM
  #14  
Joe C
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
Joe C's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Posts: 11,346
Received 700 Likes on 589 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by John A. Marker
Joe,

Did you find that this pump keeps your temps down much lower?

John
can't say for sure. i'm running a 180 stat - seems to hold about that temp while driving just fine. I still get the, sitting in traffic, temp creep, but, the best I can tell, the creep is slower. I did see north of 220 in traffic once - i'm guessing the primary fan kicked in - the temp seemed to start coming down quickly, so i'm guessing this puppy flows pretty good.

Last edited by Joe C; 04-27-2016 at 02:44 PM.
Old 04-27-2016, 02:14 PM
  #15  
mtwoolford
Melting Slicks
 
mtwoolford's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2009
Location: folsom california
Posts: 3,482
Received 194 Likes on 180 Posts

Default

not all GM pumps are created equal; corvette, heavy duty/truck applications typically have a 3/4 inch shaft; others have a smaller shaft (5/16ths inch ?); check the i.d. of the water pump pulley or the o.d. of the water pump shaft to make sure you get the right pump.
Old 04-27-2016, 02:20 PM
  #16  
mtwoolford
Melting Slicks
 
mtwoolford's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jan 2009
Location: folsom california
Posts: 3,482
Received 194 Likes on 180 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by gerardvg
Brand does not really matter when it comes to water pumps, the pressed tin paddles cavitate and cannot pump coolant like a cast or cnc curved impeller.

Look around for some performance water pumps, they are designed to flow better. With the cast or cnc machined curved impeller and pump volude design/ shapes for best performance and larger 3/4'' bearings.

Unfortunatly there is a cover over the water pump impeller so is out of sight and most never really look at the woefull pressed tin paddles
these pumps are worth the price of admission; they flow more at low rpm, allowing use of under drive pulley's without loss of cooling at low engine speeds and at high engine speeds don't cavitate and disrupt coolant flow; just better all the way around.
Old 04-27-2016, 02:42 PM
  #17  
Joe C
Race Director
Thread Starter
 
Joe C's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2000
Posts: 11,346
Received 700 Likes on 589 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by mtwoolford
these pumps are worth the price of admission; they flow more at low rpm, allowing use of under drive pulley's without loss of cooling at low engine speeds and at high engine speeds don't cavitate and disrupt coolant flow; just better all the way around.
- I can say the impeller on the flowkooler was not some stamped steel POS. I did open it up - it appeared to be cast aluminum (i'm guessing), machined, and anodized. here's the on-line description/specs -

http://www.flowkoolerwaterpumps.com/...duct_info.html



looked just like this....

Last edited by Joe C; 04-28-2016 at 04:45 AM.

Get notified of new replies

To suggestions as alternative to Delco water pump?




Quick Reply: suggestions as alternative to Delco water pump?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:18 AM.