C4 Wheel Bearings
08-31-2015, 02:20 PM
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
C4 Wheel Bearings
Hey guys I found this at Rockauto, First off they are very cheap compared to getting Moog's at Oriellys and it also states at the vehicles that used these hubs. Is their list true? If so, could we avoid the corvette tax by getting hubs for a blazer?
Edit: Sorry guys Rock auto listed 513013 as being for our car and it isnt my bad.
Edit: Sorry guys Rock auto listed 513013 as being for our car and it isnt my bad.
Last edited by CMiller95; 08-31-2015 at 02:29 PM.
08-31-2015, 03:51 PM
#2
Le Mans Master
I have used 513013 and 513020 rear hubs on my C4's. They work fine.
There are a lot of threads about wheel bearing hub assemblies. Most people only recommend certain brands like SKF or Timken, but I have had good luck with others too.
Some of the name brands are being made in China and some of the off brands are being made in the US.
I used some expensive ones from the local parts store and they failed in under 20k miles. I bought the cheapest I could find and when I sold the car 25k miles later they were still fine.
The last ones I bought were Precision brand from Rock Auto on a closeout sale for about $25 each. They came in National boxes and both the box and the parts were labeled with "Made in USA". They have been on for about a year and so far seem fine.
Like I said in another thread, I think you take your chances with whatever brand you get now.
Good luck.
There are a lot of threads about wheel bearing hub assemblies. Most people only recommend certain brands like SKF or Timken, but I have had good luck with others too.
Some of the name brands are being made in China and some of the off brands are being made in the US.
I used some expensive ones from the local parts store and they failed in under 20k miles. I bought the cheapest I could find and when I sold the car 25k miles later they were still fine.
The last ones I bought were Precision brand from Rock Auto on a closeout sale for about $25 each. They came in National boxes and both the box and the parts were labeled with "Made in USA". They have been on for about a year and so far seem fine.
Like I said in another thread, I think you take your chances with whatever brand you get now.
Good luck.
08-31-2015, 04:30 PM
#3
You need to be maybe somewhat careful with the selection of the 513013 or the 513020 from vendors that maybe offer both. Do they actually just box the same product and part number then sell to suit their needs or do they actually do different product. Years ago this came up frequently in discussions because the 513013 is traditionally a FWD bearing and it was felt that it was likely a "lesser" product. I've never demolished one for comparison but it's interesting to see the conversation again.
I don't believe that there's vendors that offer a multi-fit application for the 513020 which generally has applications for the rears on a C4. Fit isn't an issue but it's certainly likely that the "design characteristics" are likely very different. A different diameter, number of ***** and heavier races are thought to be very different.
I've never seen manufacturer internal specifications for either.
I don't believe that there's vendors that offer a multi-fit application for the 513020 which generally has applications for the rears on a C4. Fit isn't an issue but it's certainly likely that the "design characteristics" are likely very different. A different diameter, number of ***** and heavier races are thought to be very different.
I've never seen manufacturer internal specifications for either.
08-31-2015, 04:55 PM
#4
Instructor
Thread Starter
Thats very true, the front of a 4wd blazer doesnt see the same loads as the rear of our cars. Moog's rear 513020 are made in the USA (Oriellys wants around 200 a piece for them and they arent on the website.) The Moog fronts are made in Korea (they are 300 a piece) but still looked to be very well made. I haven't swapped them out yet so well see but they come with a 3 year warranty.
08-31-2015, 05:00 PM
#5
Le Mans Master
For some reading on bearings. The only specs I found are the ones on the first post. The external diminsions are within 0.001" of each other. However no info on the interior specs.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...er-prices.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...er-prices.html
09-02-2015, 03:15 PM
#6
I have used 513013 and 513020 rear hubs on my C4's. They work fine.
There are a lot of threads about wheel bearing hub assemblies. Most people only recommend certain brands like SKF or Timken, but I have had good luck with others too.
Some of the name brands are being made in China and some of the off brands are being made in the US.
I used some expensive ones from the local parts store and they failed in under 20k miles. I bought the cheapest I could find and when I sold the car 25k miles later they were still fine.
The last ones I bought were Precision brand from Rock Auto on a closeout sale for about $25 each. They came in National boxes and both the box and the parts were labeled with "Made in USA". They have been on for about a year and so far seem fine.
Like I said in another thread, I think you take your chances with whatever brand you get now.
Good luck.
There are a lot of threads about wheel bearing hub assemblies. Most people only recommend certain brands like SKF or Timken, but I have had good luck with others too.
Some of the name brands are being made in China and some of the off brands are being made in the US.
I used some expensive ones from the local parts store and they failed in under 20k miles. I bought the cheapest I could find and when I sold the car 25k miles later they were still fine.
The last ones I bought were Precision brand from Rock Auto on a closeout sale for about $25 each. They came in National boxes and both the box and the parts were labeled with "Made in USA". They have been on for about a year and so far seem fine.
Like I said in another thread, I think you take your chances with whatever brand you get now.
Good luck.
Last edited by Christi@n; 09-03-2015 at 05:28 AM.
09-02-2015, 03:52 PM
#7
Burning Brakes
Thats very true, the front of a 4wd blazer doesnt see the same loads as the rear of our cars. Moog's rear 513020 are made in the USA (Oriellys wants around 200 a piece for them and they arent on the website.) The Moog fronts are made in Korea (they are 300 a piece) but still looked to be very well made. I haven't swapped them out yet so well see but they come with a 3 year warranty.
09-02-2015, 04:00 PM
#8
Instructor
Thread Starter
I didn't mean that blazers don't put it under extreme loads, I meant the the style of load we give our cars is different from the style blazer owners (who drive a 4wd as it should be driven) give theirs. I.E. We generally don't go through extremely rough terrain or get our cars airborne. So, the thought was the hub could be designed a little different inside to be better at taking rapid high loads (driving fast through rough terrain) rather than being capable of staying together at 170mph. They could be completely the same and they only reason they have different p/n is due to them corvette taxing the ones specified for our cars. I honestly have no idea
09-02-2015, 04:24 PM
#9
Burning Brakes
I didn't mean that blazers don't put it under extreme loads, I meant the the style of load we give our cars is different from the style blazer owners (who drive a 4wd as it should be driven) give theirs. I.E. We generally don't go through extremely rough terrain or get our cars airborne. So, the thought was the hub could be designed a little different inside to be better at taking rapid high loads (driving fast through rough terrain) rather than being capable of staying together at 170mph. They could be completely the same and they only reason they have different p/n is due to them corvette taxing the ones specified for our cars. I honestly have no idea
09-02-2015, 05:23 PM
#11
Burning Brakes
Are the C4 wheel bearings pressed on like the C3s? I guess not, if everyone here is changing them out themselves. It used to take a special GM tool, or a slip-fit conversion.
09-02-2015, 07:36 PM
#13
Team Owner
Looks like tyhe Moog units are on clearance right now at Rockauto for $62.79$
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/rafr...ktemplate=true
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/rafr...ktemplate=true
Last edited by TA; 09-02-2015 at 07:49 PM.
09-03-2015, 07:10 AM
#15
Le Mans Master
The reason SKF and Timken bearings are always suggested is because they work and last for us..These are the ones alot of guys on this forum have used with the least amount of failures...They may be a few bucks more, but as they say ( you get what you pay for)....
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QCVette, I have used Precision bearings in the past and had very good luck with them also, but I haven't used them since they started coming in white boxes, I don't know if the quality has changed since they went "White box"...
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....WWQCVette, I have used Precision bearings in the past and had very good luck with them also, but I haven't used them since they started coming in white boxes, I don't know if the quality has changed since they went "White box"...
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Last edited by WW7; 09-03-2015 at 07:22 AM.
09-03-2015, 07:23 AM
#16
I've recently used MOOG infact, 513020
09-03-2015, 07:39 AM
#17
Le Mans Master
I've never used Moog bearings so I can't give a recommendation,maybe someone else on here can.. If Moogs are near the same price as Timken and SKF, why not get ones that the guys on this forum have used and had good luck with for a long period of time...WW
09-03-2015, 04:09 PM
#18
Burning Brakes
I stopped using Timken bearings when they started making them in China. Anyway, thanks to everyone for the good advice. I test drove the car yesterday that I was considering. It seems the C4s don't fit me well, I could hardly get in and out of it (the extra tall door sill is really a problem, especially if the car is parked on an incline). The search continues...
09-03-2015, 05:25 PM
#19
Instructor
Thread Starter
My moog rear hubs are made in USA and I've always had great luck with them. I've seen some Timken products made in china.
I couldn't get the bolt out to do my rear hubs, even with an impact. So, I decided to wait until I pull it all apart to do bushings. They aren't bad but they are clicking from worn out splines
I couldn't get the bolt out to do my rear hubs, even with an impact. So, I decided to wait until I pull it all apart to do bushings. They aren't bad but they are clicking from worn out splines
09-04-2015, 12:14 AM
#20
Burning Brakes