Better brake pads for the street
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Better brake pads for the street
Hello everyone. I am looking for pads that will be used on the street most of the time, sometimes they will be used at the race track to stop from around 110-115 mph very quickly, and occasional aggressive driving through the twisty back roads. I would prefer them to have a initial response. This is for a 1985 Corvette. Most pads I've found have only been for 88-96.
Also, can anybody recommend a good drilled and slotted rotor for what I'm using it for?
Thanks a lot!
Also, can anybody recommend a good drilled and slotted rotor for what I'm using it for?
Thanks a lot!
#2
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I would recommend separate pads and rotors for track use. Pads and rotors are not that hard to change and if you swapped just pads, there may be a question of having to re-bed the pads to transfer the pad material to the surface of the rotors.
I have used Hawk HPS for street and autocross use. They don't produce a lot of dust on the street, they are quiet, and don't need a lot of heat for them to work. I would expect that CarboTech has similar pads.
I don't use a drilled rotor for any sort of track days. For street use and autocross, they would work wilt no real issues keeping mind the speeds won't be as high as what you can see on a track with repeated hard braking at speed.
Most of these drilled rotors are cast then the holes are drilled. This can lead to cracking around the holes and then outward to the edge of the rotor. And drilled and/or slotted rotors can't be machined or trued for longer wear.
I have considered rotors to be a sort of maintenance item for track days. Rotors get used hard and wear fairly quickly. Get some stock style rotors, add some cooling ducts and they will work just fine. I have had good luck with Raybestos Professional Grade rotors.
Also get some high quality DOT4 brake fluid and braided flex lines. Do a fluid flush before each track day.
You might consider going with a C5 front brake upgrade. I did this to my '87 a few years ago and I really like it. I use stock C5 front rotors, C5 Z06-specific front pads and in the back I use Hawk HPS pads. I had tried the Hawk HP+ pads, but they generated a ton of dust, they squealed horribly when cold, and they did need heat in them to work.
I added a Doug Rippie brake bias spring in the stock master cylinder (they have both ABS and non-ABS versions of the spring) The spring solved a rear brake lock-up problem after installing the C5 front brakes. Overall it made a huge difference in braking at track days where I would get the car upwards of 125-130 and then had to brake for 90 degree corners Very good pad life from bot sets of pads too.
I have used Hawk HPS for street and autocross use. They don't produce a lot of dust on the street, they are quiet, and don't need a lot of heat for them to work. I would expect that CarboTech has similar pads.
I don't use a drilled rotor for any sort of track days. For street use and autocross, they would work wilt no real issues keeping mind the speeds won't be as high as what you can see on a track with repeated hard braking at speed.
Most of these drilled rotors are cast then the holes are drilled. This can lead to cracking around the holes and then outward to the edge of the rotor. And drilled and/or slotted rotors can't be machined or trued for longer wear.
I have considered rotors to be a sort of maintenance item for track days. Rotors get used hard and wear fairly quickly. Get some stock style rotors, add some cooling ducts and they will work just fine. I have had good luck with Raybestos Professional Grade rotors.
Also get some high quality DOT4 brake fluid and braided flex lines. Do a fluid flush before each track day.
You might consider going with a C5 front brake upgrade. I did this to my '87 a few years ago and I really like it. I use stock C5 front rotors, C5 Z06-specific front pads and in the back I use Hawk HPS pads. I had tried the Hawk HP+ pads, but they generated a ton of dust, they squealed horribly when cold, and they did need heat in them to work.
I added a Doug Rippie brake bias spring in the stock master cylinder (they have both ABS and non-ABS versions of the spring) The spring solved a rear brake lock-up problem after installing the C5 front brakes. Overall it made a huge difference in braking at track days where I would get the car upwards of 125-130 and then had to brake for 90 degree corners Very good pad life from bot sets of pads too.
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St. Jude Donor '11,'13
The Carbotech AX6 will do the trick. If interested let me know I will be happy to help you.
Carbotech™ AX6™
The AX6™ is specifically engineered for Autocross applications. A high torque brake compound delivering reliable and consistent performance over a very wide operating temperature range of 50°F to 1000°F + (10°C to 537°C+). The advanced compound matrix provides an excellent initial bite, high coefficient of friction at lower temperatures along with very progressive brake modulation and release characteristics. Many drivers use the AX6™ for street driving as well, even though Carbotech™ doesn't recommend street driving with AX6™ due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise. AX6™ is NOT recommended as a race compound in most applications.
Front $151 Rear $138 Less 5%.
Carbotech™ AX6™
The AX6™ is specifically engineered for Autocross applications. A high torque brake compound delivering reliable and consistent performance over a very wide operating temperature range of 50°F to 1000°F + (10°C to 537°C+). The advanced compound matrix provides an excellent initial bite, high coefficient of friction at lower temperatures along with very progressive brake modulation and release characteristics. Many drivers use the AX6™ for street driving as well, even though Carbotech™ doesn't recommend street driving with AX6™ due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise. AX6™ is NOT recommended as a race compound in most applications.
Front $151 Rear $138 Less 5%.
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Internet's largest retailer of Carbotech Performance Brake Pads.
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The Carbotech AX6 will do the trick. If interested let me know I will be happy to help you.
Carbotech™ AX6™
The AX6™ is specifically engineered for Autocross applications. A high torque brake compound delivering reliable and consistent performance over a very wide operating temperature range of 50°F to 1000°F + (10°C to 537°C+). The advanced compound matrix provides an excellent initial bite, high coefficient of friction at lower temperatures along with very progressive brake modulation and release characteristics. Many drivers use the AX6™ for street driving as well, even though Carbotech™ doesn't recommend street driving with AX6™ due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise. AX6™ is NOT recommended as a race compound in most applications.
Front $151 Rear $138 Less 5%.
Carbotech™ AX6™
The AX6™ is specifically engineered for Autocross applications. A high torque brake compound delivering reliable and consistent performance over a very wide operating temperature range of 50°F to 1000°F + (10°C to 537°C+). The advanced compound matrix provides an excellent initial bite, high coefficient of friction at lower temperatures along with very progressive brake modulation and release characteristics. Many drivers use the AX6™ for street driving as well, even though Carbotech™ doesn't recommend street driving with AX6™ due to possible elevated levels of dust and noise. AX6™ is NOT recommended as a race compound in most applications.
Front $151 Rear $138 Less 5%.
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St. Jude Donor '11,'13
[QUOTE=DanielRicany;1590426171]I did a little research on those pads and I don't think they would fit me well due to the brake dust issues. Do you have the 1521 pads for 1985?
Thank you[/QUOTE
Yes we have them in 1521 as well. Call me at 216-780-8825 to order.
Thank you[/QUOTE
Yes we have them in 1521 as well. Call me at 216-780-8825 to order.
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[QUOTE=Adam@Amp'dAutosport.com;1590426597]Okay, I'll get some money together and place an order this week or next. Do you also sell rotors?