C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

new to corvette world

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-27-2015, 11:52 AM
  #1  
tenebrous
Cruising
Thread Starter
 
tenebrous's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default new to corvette world

I have 1984 C4, whenever temp gets around 200-210, sounds like a relief valve or something opens every 3-5 seconds, looks like it blowing out steam, could this be a overheating issue?
Old 11-27-2015, 12:08 PM
  #2  
antfarmer2
Race Director
 
antfarmer2's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2015
Posts: 15,926
Received 578 Likes on 555 Posts
Default

temps are good might need a new radiator cap get a good one!!!!!!!!
Old 11-27-2015, 12:11 PM
  #3  
John A. Marker
Le Mans Master
 
John A. Marker's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2004
Location: Dublin CA
Posts: 5,107
Received 167 Likes on 148 Posts

Default

You posted in both General and Tech....

Where do you see the steam or smoke? You need to be specific and identify which area.
Old 11-27-2015, 12:52 PM
  #4  
tenebrous
Cruising
Thread Starter
 
tenebrous's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ok i'll try this
Old 11-27-2015, 12:59 PM
  #5  
tenebrous
Cruising
Thread Starter
 
tenebrous's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

What type would you recommend?
Old 11-27-2015, 01:35 PM
  #6  
don hall
Safety Car
 
don hall's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2002
Location: SANTA CRUZ CA
Posts: 3,826
Received 218 Likes on 172 Posts

Default

[QUOTE=tenebrous;1590989749]What type would you recommend?[/QUOTE]

I'm assuming you are asking what cap to buy (?).
Most caps are made by 'Stant', and packaged under many
brand names. According to Stant people, all newer caps are designed for both open and closed systems. I think all Stant caps have the letter 'S' stamped in the brass rivet in the cap.

Just buy a cap from AutoZone, etc., and you will be fine.

If a cap gasket is damaged, air will enter the cooling system. This negates the pressure build-up which is needed to raise the boiling point.

If the system is boiling, you may see steam coming from the cap, if the gasket is damaged. If there is smoke, that is another concern.

Check the cap gasket for damage. Replace, if necessary. Then check the coolant level in both the radiator and overflow bottle, fill, if necessary.

Last edited by don hall; 11-27-2015 at 01:42 PM.
The following users liked this post:
tenebrous (11-27-2015)
Old 11-27-2015, 01:45 PM
  #7  
tenebrous
Cruising
Thread Starter
 
tenebrous's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks bro, i'll try this, hopefully this is the problem.
Old 11-27-2015, 01:51 PM
  #8  
don hall
Safety Car
 
don hall's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2002
Location: SANTA CRUZ CA
Posts: 3,826
Received 218 Likes on 172 Posts

Default

Also, any breach in the cooling system will negate pressure build-up. So check for loose hose clamps, frayed hose ends, any condition that may allow air into the cooling system.
Old 11-27-2015, 03:35 PM
  #9  
John A. Marker
Le Mans Master
 
John A. Marker's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2004
Location: Dublin CA
Posts: 5,107
Received 167 Likes on 148 Posts

Default

He also posted in General. Where he has answered my question...WHERE...."near the air filter" on the 84 that is no where near the radiator cap. One response in the other post was to check the T-stat housing. I suggested that he warm up the car until he hears the noise, remove the air cleaner and then check hoses, T-stat housing area for the steam he is seeing or sign of a leak.
Old 11-27-2015, 04:04 PM
  #10  
tenebrous
Cruising
Thread Starter
 
tenebrous's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default blowing steam

Originally Posted by seabright
Also, any breach in the cooling system will negate pressure build-up. So check for loose hose clamps, frayed hose ends, any condition that may allow air into the cooling system.
ok, put new radiator cap on, still having same problem. checked hoses and clamps, all are good. when I shut off the car, I get a hissing sound, like the heater is still blowing
Old 11-27-2015, 04:57 PM
  #11  
antfarmer2
Race Director
 
antfarmer2's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2015
Posts: 15,926
Received 578 Likes on 555 Posts
Default

the cap was the first thing I thought to cheak. but many other things can leak. get a pressure tester that some places will loan you and find your leak.
Old 11-27-2015, 05:29 PM
  #12  
don hall
Safety Car
 
don hall's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2002
Location: SANTA CRUZ CA
Posts: 3,826
Received 218 Likes on 172 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tenebrous
ok, put new radiator cap on, still having same problem. checked hoses and clamps, all are good. when I shut off the car, I get a hissing sound, like the heater is still blowing
You didn't mention if you checked the coolant level (?).

With a cold cooling system, remove the rad cap. Run the vette until the t-stat opens, and look to see if the coolant is circulating. If no circulation, t-stat may have failed closed, clogged with rust, or pump could be faulty.

Still have steam or smoke? Source?
Old 11-27-2015, 05:38 PM
  #13  
tenebrous
Cruising
Thread Starter
 
tenebrous's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default blowing steam

Originally Posted by seabright
You didn't mention if you checked the coolant level (?).

With a cold cooling system, remove the rad cap. Run the vette until the t-stat opens, and look to see if the coolant is circulating. If no circulation, t-stat may have failed closed, clogged with rust, or pump could be faulty.

Still have steam or smoke? Source?
I could have a bad fan, it's not kicking on at all, do know that much about cars(just a reminder)
Old 11-27-2015, 05:46 PM
  #14  
don hall
Safety Car
 
don hall's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2002
Location: SANTA CRUZ CA
Posts: 3,826
Received 218 Likes on 172 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tenebrous
I could have a bad fan, it's not kicking on at all, do know that much about cars(just a reminder)
Yes, I know enough that the fans should activate at a predetermined temp. Don't know the fan temp activation for a 1984, but a member, or google will inform you. 210 is not sufficient to activate the fans.

Coolant full, and circulating?
Old 11-27-2015, 06:32 PM
  #15  
tenebrous
Cruising
Thread Starter
 
tenebrous's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default blowing steam

Originally Posted by seabright
Yes, I know enough that the fans should activate at a predetermined temp. Don't know the fan temp activation for a 1984, but a member, or google will inform you. 210 is not sufficient to activate the fans.

Coolant full, and circulating?
yes coolant full, will check to see if it circulating tomorrow, I also just put a relay switch in, are there any other fuses for fan?
Old 11-27-2015, 06:49 PM
  #16  
tenebrous
Cruising
Thread Starter
 
tenebrous's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by tenebrous
yes coolant full, will check to see if it circulating tomorrow, I also just put a relay switch in, are there any other fuses for fan?
could it be a bad cooling fan switch?
Old 11-27-2015, 09:14 PM
  #17  
ccrazor
Race Director
 
ccrazor's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2007
Location: Whitefish Falls Ontario
Posts: 11,889
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
St. Jude Donor '08-'09

Default

From the 84 FSM the switch for the fan is rated to operate at 238* .. To check the switch, disconnect the switch (between #6 & 8 plugs ) and with ignition set to run, ground the connector, the fan should run..


Last edited by ccrazor; 11-27-2015 at 09:52 PM.

Get notified of new replies

To new to corvette world

Old 11-27-2015, 09:31 PM
  #18  
don hall
Safety Car
 
don hall's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2002
Location: SANTA CRUZ CA
Posts: 3,826
Received 218 Likes on 172 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tenebrous
could it be a bad cooling fan switch?
If your max temp is 210, the fan is not your problem.

It is possible the temp gage is faulty, and the temp is not accurate.

If your head gasket has ruptured, the temp would rise very rapidly, greatly exceeding 210 temp, and you would see a coolant loss.
Old 11-27-2015, 11:08 PM
  #19  
tenebrous
Cruising
Thread Starter
 
tenebrous's Avatar
 
Member Since: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default blowing steam

Originally Posted by seabright

If your max temp is 210, the fan is not your problem.

It is possible the temp gage is faulty, and the temp is not accurate.

If your head gasket has ruptured, the temp would rise very rapidly, greatly exceeding 210 temp, and you would see a coolant loss.
ok, the highest the temp has got is about 214 while driving, then drops to about 184. when I crank the car and let it warm up the symptons start once temp reaches 200-210(about 5-10 mins)steam comes from area under where air filter and fuel injectors are, just below the middle pulley. have it on video,but having trouble uploading it.
Old 11-28-2015, 08:59 AM
  #20  
Cruisinfanatic
Le Mans Master
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Cruisinfanatic's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2004
Location: Clifton Park, NY ..............Clearwater, FL ... 85 Original Owner
Posts: 5,750
Received 553 Likes on 432 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tenebrous
ok, the highest the temp has got is about 214 while driving, then drops to about 184. when I crank the car and let it warm up the symptons start once temp reaches 200-210(about 5-10 mins)steam comes from area under where air filter and fuel injectors are, just below the middle pulley. have it on video,but having trouble uploading it.
as I said, put the video on utube and then post the link here


Quick Reply: new to corvette world



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:39 PM.