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Old 02-05-2016, 04:55 AM
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Default Fuel Pump went out (Input)

Hey all the fuel pump died in my 88 Vette that crap only lasted 28 years Can you give me some input on what is the better pump to get etc. its been years since I had to change one.



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Old 02-05-2016, 06:58 AM
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I'd go with the AC Delco...........very easy job to do, don't reuse the original strainer. Hardest part of the job is getting the fuel lines lose next to the filler neck. Google it, lots of info on this job is available.
Old 02-05-2016, 07:33 AM
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Easyest pump ever done! Just make sure you use the right submersible hose to connectic it to the pump. Good time to clean the tank. But of course the tank is most likely filled. Lol change the fuel filter while it is off so you do not get a bath. The fuel filter will be harder!
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Get a complete kit from Racetronix and bypass that silly damper with the fuel hose they give you. It comes so complete you don't have to go to the hardware store. All the new bolts and gaskets and most everything you need except the "Liquid Wrench" to get the old screws off.
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Branding isn't maybe as important as it once was. ACD is likely just rebranded product as many others. You need to decide if you're going to retain the dampener that connects the pump to the tree or replace it with hose.

If hose, you might want to be sure to use "fuel submersible" product. It generally comes with a price but a friend told me he purchased a "cut to length" of 6" recently. I've no idea. He's not local.

The fuel strainer certainly needs a change also. With as wide a throat as the C4 tank has there's no reason to not maybe inspect and clean maybe making sure the baffle/deflector is secured visually. I wouldn't try a physical confirmation. Visibly should do.

Buy local always. Maybe use some "price matching" leverage or warranty comparisons. There's likely "lifetime" for no fees.

Keep fuel in the tank after replacement and maybe this one will be long lived also.
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Had good luck with Delhpi and Carter electric pumps (course they could both be made by Cheng shing who knows anymore probably the same as NAPA )
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
Branding isn't maybe as important as it once was. ACD is likely just rebranded product as many others. You need to decide if you're going to retain the dampener that connects the pump to the tree or replace it with hose.

Buy local always. Maybe use some "price matching" leverage or warranty comparisons. There's likely "lifetime" for no fees.

Keep fuel in the tank after replacement and maybe this one will be long lived also.
Just because they really are rebranded doesn't mean the spec follows. Same factory but could be different inside but looks the same.

Unless local offers the same item for less money, why?

Doesn't matter either empty or full. Same difference
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Originally Posted by aklim
Just because they really are rebranded doesn't mean the spec follows. Same factory but could be different inside but looks the same.

Unless local offers the same item for less money, why?

Doesn't matter either empty or full. Same difference
I didn't argue or mention SPECS - an OE "unmodified" install I believe your suggestion is "overkill" - likely not as well warrantied either.

Always LOCAL - WHY? - If you don't get it you just "DON"T GET IT".

I never mentioned empty or full. WTF?

If you didn't understand "KEEP FUEL IN TANK" I'm sure you didn't get it. The "fuel pump" is intended to pump fuel not AIR, the fuel is a coolant and lubricant.
Old 02-05-2016, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by aklim
Get a complete kit from Racetronix and bypass that silly damper with the fuel hose they give you. It comes so complete you don't have to go to the hardware store. All the new bolts and gaskets and most everything you need except the "Liquid Wrench" to get the old screws off.
Totally agree on Racetronix. I think I bought the 225gph unit. Take your shop vac and clean up the area real good before you start removing and screws on top. I found lots of leaves, tiny rocks, and road dust.
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Overkillexpertitus? if you dont buget 15000 to 20000 then you need to get your injectors cleaned.
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It takes very little effort to find design specifications for nearly every brand sold by "reputable" resellers. There's likely more of the Racetronix counterfeit product out there than maybe any other. Very likely maybe. They might even change vendors from time to time just attempting to maybe become a bit more profitable.

I'd really rather chance a local purchase and then if it was a "performance" based purchase see that it actually performs as advertised. Clean B+ voltage to the pump might eliminate all of the issues one might think exists with "off the shelf" local buys.
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The Racetronix pump wiring kits are a good thing too. I thought my pump had failed and found that the in tank wiring was failing. Caused an intermittent no start. Now key on my pump sounds more like an indy car instead of the diesel truck sound it had before.
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
I didn't argue or mention SPECS - an OE "unmodified" install I believe your suggestion is "overkill" - likely not as well warrantied either.

Always LOCAL - WHY? - If you don't get it you just "DON"T GET IT".

I never mentioned empty or full. WTF?

If you didn't understand "KEEP FUEL IN TANK" I'm sure you didn't get it. The "fuel pump" is intended to pump fuel not AIR, the fuel is a coolant and lubricant.
In every way, shape or form, I agree. One great thing about the kit that I suggested. Even without the wiring modification it doesn't require that you run back and forth to the hardware store. SS bolts, gasket, fuel resistant hose and it even gets rid of the pulsator. THAT was the main reason my friend went back in. Got pump, ordered the gasket (it was wrong, BTW and parts house fault), re-used the dampner and it leaked. I just did it all one day in the garage with simple tools and no running back and forth.

You are correct. I don't get it. I buy a product and whomever has the best price for that item (no substitutes or prostitutes), I get. If you can't compete, it isn't my problem to prop you up. Sink or swim.

No you didn't. I'm saying that the only reason to fill up fuel is that you are on empty.

OMG! That old wife's tale is still going on. In and of itself, it makes perfect sense. At least till you look at the larger picture. So please, help me, as your phrase goes "get it".

1. If the fuel ends, the engine dies in seconds and the pump stop
2. Something generating enough heat like you suggest that needs coolant and lubrication would be something I would NOT want in a tank with fuel fumes.
3. If it passes heat to the tank, it could burn up and take me and the tank with it.

But hey, don't take my word for it. Tom400CFI has done a test with a fuel pump outside of the tank for over 8 minutes and no failure. Video
. If you can run the pump for more than 8 minutes with no fuel, you probably hooked up your pump to the battery.

Entire thread is HERE.
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Originally Posted by HAD2HAV2
Totally agree on Racetronix. I think I bought the 225gph unit. Take your shop vac and clean up the area real good before you start removing and screws on top. I found lots of leaves, tiny rocks, and road dust.
Smaller unit is fine for him. Just debating between running the wire kit or not. It is nice to have everything there and not have to make trips to the store for bolts, gaskets, beer. If I came to your house to fix this and you don't have the parts, you go get them while I drink beer.
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
It takes very little effort to find design specifications for nearly every brand sold by "reputable" resellers. There's likely more of the Racetronix counterfeit product out there than maybe any other. Very likely maybe. They might even change vendors from time to time just attempting to maybe become a bit more profitable.

I'd really rather chance a local purchase and then if it was a "performance" based purchase see that it actually performs as advertised. Clean B+ voltage to the pump might eliminate all of the issues one might think exists with "off the shelf" local buys.
I'm not sure how may or how bad the situation is. My experience with the local yokek is that they have no clue on what they are selling other than reading the literature and sometimes, not even that. In truth, if you want to compare say Jegs or Summit to the local shop, the local guy usually, not always seems to be clueless. At least that's my experience unless it is a speed shop and that is what they produce. And then their is their attempt to sell you a "local" solution, aka "I have it on hand and it is better than what you wanted". Funny how that recommendation is based on what I have in stock.
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Originally Posted by RWDsmoke
The Racetronix pump wiring kits are a good thing too. I thought my pump had failed and found that the in tank wiring was failing. Caused an intermittent no start. Now key on my pump sounds more like an indy car instead of the diesel truck sound it had before.
Maybe you should have put gas instead of diesel?
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Originally Posted by Red 91
Overkillexpertitus? if you dont buget 15000 to 20000 then you need to get your injectors cleaned.
Not sure how budget is related to the cleaning of injectors or in this case the fuel pump. Can I assume it is senseless drivel or should I be trying to ask for clarification?

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Old 02-07-2016, 07:24 AM
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I ordered the Racetronix kit yesterday. Thanks to all!
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Originally Posted by Brian Felts
I ordered the Racetronix kit yesterday. Thanks to all!
Which one? Either get the SMALL one or BIG one and it will be fine.

If you paid more, cancel it and get it from LPE. If not, be happy either way. Now that you saved time running around, you can go to the liquor store and get a six pack of your favorite beverage as long as you don't smoke while working.
Old 02-08-2016, 05:58 AM
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I got the big one directly from Racetronix and it was only $115.00 shipped. I was real happy with that, don't have any real mods but I figured it would keep me from needing a bigger on in the future.


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