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Old 02-07-2016, 03:11 PM
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Default wtf baked my valve covers have blisters

well in my 85 refresh i thought id do my valve covers.

wtf did i do wrong.

what is the typical reason for this.








Old 02-07-2016, 03:12 PM
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baked at 200 deg.

its funny cause im fairly certain the previous owner tried to do it and there were blisters on them.

now i did it.

im thinking i had trapped gas in the paint from putting layers on too far apart.
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Or oil from the start.

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i used some really strong solvent on them....

im going to try and sand off the blisters, put them in the dishwasher, and then repaint. no way im going to totally strip them again.
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Originally Posted by VikingTrad3r
i used some really strong solvent on them....

im going to try and sand off the blisters, put them in the dishwasher, and then repaint. no way im going to totally strip them again.
I would heat them before the paint too.
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Originally Posted by antfarmer2
I would heat them before the paint too.

ha. i had just thought of that. i should have done that. makes sense to bake off any volatiles that are on the valve covers.

boooooo. i hate doing things twice but it appears that is my style.
Old 02-07-2016, 04:39 PM
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hope you're not "baking" those things in your wife's kitchen stove/oven - . why do you feel you need to do that?

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Originally Posted by Joe C
hope you're not "baking" those things in your wife's kitchen stove/oven - . why do you feel you need to do that?

its duplicolor engine enamel and instructions are to bake it.

here is my setup. works great.
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Originally Posted by VikingTrad3r
its duplicolor engine enamel and instructions are to bake it.

here is my setup. works great.
so, am I to understand, if you paint your whole engine, you need to bake it? . seriously, I've used duplicolor engine enamel, on my 85 - didn't bake anything, in fact, nowhere on the can does it say anything about baking. ???
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Originally Posted by Joe C
so, am I to understand, if you paint your whole engine, you need to bake it? . seriously, I've used duplicolor engine enamel, on my 85 - didn't bake anything, in fact, nowhere on the can does it say anything about baking. ???
depends on the paint probably.







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If I am interpreting those instructions correctly, heat curing is an option, not a requirement. The paint will self cure over 7 days apparently.
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I tried painting my stock ones and they did the same thing, SOOOO I just took a sander to them and steel wool and made them shiny instead.
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yah i contemplated doing the shine but wanted stock look.

i took my mouse sander to the blisters and then stuck in bbq again.

wasnt so bad with mouse sander.

ill be hitting them again with more enamel and rebaking.

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interesting interpretation of instructions.

ill email dup and get thier comments.

thnx.
Old 02-07-2016, 10:28 PM
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These valve cover are always hard to paint. Mine are chipping now and peeling I keep having to touch them up. They sure looked good when they were freshly painted. I'm going to end up buying new valve covers probably.
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Originally Posted by DanielRicany
These valve cover are always hard to paint. Mine are chipping now and peeling I keep having to touch them up. They sure looked good when they were freshly painted. I'm going to end up buying new valve covers probably.

do we have any idea what makes them so hard to paint vs other ones?

they look amazing so far! if i can get them to heat cycle up to 300f without blistering i think im good to go.

the paint that did not blister on mine (most of it) was hard to get off with sand paper so i think im close.

im stoked to get a system down to refurb them for the cost of one pint can and a lazy sunday morning.
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Maybe try some VHT header paint on them. Only issues I've had with that on my headers is when it gets scratched.
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Did you do a pre bake to bake out trapped solvents/oils?

My bad, I just saw that you didn't. The heat paints are more durable due to the amount of ceramics in them. I'd just sand and respray and call it a day.

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Originally Posted by Dt86
Did you do a pre bake to bake out trapped solvents/oils?

My bad, I just saw that you didn't. The heat paints are more durable due to the amount of ceramics in them. I'd just sand and respray and call it a day.
I think you're on the right track. I did spraying of furniture for years and used many different types of finishes. Problem developed if the finish skimmed prior to all the solvent gassing out. It acted like plastic wrap, forming a seal against the finish preventing the ability of the solvent from exiting, forming pockets and boils in the finish.

If it was me, I agree cooking the part first to force out any residual contaminants first. Let it cool to room temp and only then spray it. Let it air dry for several days and only then if the direction say to heat it would I attempt to cook the finish. Based on the photo, it does not appear to be mandatory so personally I would only let it air dry for that week and then mount them up to the engine.

My 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by hcbph
I think you're on the right track. I did spraying of furniture for years and used many different types of finishes. Problem developed if the finish skimmed prior to all the solvent gassing out. It acted like plastic wrap, forming a seal against the finish preventing the ability of the solvent from exiting, forming pockets and boils in the finish.

If it was me, I agree cooking the part first to force out any residual contaminants first. Let it cool to room temp and only then spray it. Let it air dry for several days and only then if the direction say to heat it would I attempt to cook the finish. Based on the photo, it does not appear to be mandatory so personally I would only let it air dry for that week and then mount them up to the engine.

My 2 cents.
The magnesium valve covers are notorious for holding in solvents and oils.
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I refinished my 90's VC (satin nickel and topcoat only) it's been about two years now, no issues. I did refinish my 85's - bead blasted down to base, chemical clean, etch primer, several coats of texture, and topcoat. have yet to fire the engine though...


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