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how do u remove the torque converter from the input shaft.

Old 04-27-2016, 11:58 AM
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Default how do u remove the torque converter from the input shaft.

i have the trans out on the floor. need to pull the tc off and put new one on. (at least, i think that is what was making the noise, it wasnt a cracked flywheel).

my tc is on pretty good. ive googled it and seen many people install a tc, but nobody takes it off other than a video of using a truck to pull it off with a chain. id rather not do that lol.
Old 04-27-2016, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by VikingTrad3r
i have the trans out on the floor. need to pull the tc off and put new one on. (at least, i think that is what was making the noise, it wasnt a cracked flywheel).

my tc is on pretty good. ive googled it and seen many people install a tc, but nobody takes it off other than a video of using a truck to pull it off with a chain. id rather not do that lol.
No real pulling involved, support it at top and bottom with your hands and slide it towards you. Keep in mind it is heavy. You have put in a lot of effort on this job, at least check the front pump bushing, and pump seals..
Old 04-27-2016, 01:23 PM
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Sit down in front of the tranny. Put one foot on each side of the bellhousing, Grab the converter with two hands. Pull toward you and wiggle. It should come out.
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with 383vett...should pull off. Be aware that it is heavy and filled with trans fluid which makes it heavier. It should just slide off.

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Originally Posted by 383vett
Sit down in front of the tranny. Put one foot on each side of the bellhousing, Grab the converter with two hands. Pull toward you and wiggle. It should come out.
Yes, that is the correct way.

But , I personally had 1 instance where the convertor was locked into the Tranny. I couldn't get it off, I took it to a Tranny shop and they couldn't get it off. Very rare, but it can happen.

I had to dump that Tranny.

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ok ive been at it for 20 minutes sitting in front of it and it isnt coming off. i have a rubber mallet and its got a bit of up and down wiggle to it. maybe 3/8ths inch up and down play. it started with maybe 1/8th inch play so i guess its a bit looser but its not coming out nice not even close.

could this be the reason why it was making the noises that it was?


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Yes, that is the correct way.

But , I personally had 1 instance where the convertor was locked into the Tranny. I couldn't get it off, I took it to a Tranny shop and they couldn't get it off. Very rare, but it can happen.

I had to dump that Tranny.

Vic
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When converter comes lose be prepared for some fluid spillage. old baking /cookie sheet works.
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When converter comes lose be prepared for some fluid spillage. old baking /cookie sheet works.
another 20 minutes of cussing, still no give.

one thing i notice is that when i do get it off partially, or least if feels like i can wiggle it out about 3/8" it will not rotate anymore. like it locks. if i use the mallet to bang it in then it will rotate again.
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Originally Posted by VikingTrad3r
another 20 minutes of cussing, still no give.

one thing i notice is that when i do get it off partially, or least if feels like i can wiggle it out about 3/8" it will not rotate anymore. like it locks. if i use the mallet to bang it in then it will rotate again.
I thought I was the only one who had this issue ever.

It was on my old IROCZ original 700R4.

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Originally Posted by Vic'89
I thought I was the only one who had this issue ever.

It was on my old IROCZ original 700R4.

Vic

only had the lunch hour to try and get it off, but I called the tranny shop and they said probably due to overheating it Seni welded itself to the input shaft and I will be doing a pump bushing and seal job as well. I'm going to take the converter to the guys I'm buying a new one from and they're going to cut it open and will just make sure that the converter has a problem.
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wtf!!!!!!!

its totally stuck. i obviously have a pump bushing problem and that must be what has been making the noise.

doing this in a plastic bin just isn't working. i don't have a lift or a hook to hoist trans up from rafters but i may have to rig it up.

any ideas? i've made about 1/4 of progress.

u can see the small lines as i pry it out bit by bit. this is 3hrs of work. wtf. <br ><br > <br >

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I think you should scrap the Tranny and convertor.

Look for another 700R4 and swap your tailshaft on it.
If it's not a Vette 700r4, then you have to cut the output shaft a bit.

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I've never removed a torque converter, but i've sen video sometimes when installed need to rotates a little to properly engage input shaft.

I would try to grab it an pull and rotate sametime

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Originally Posted by Vic'89
I think you should scrap the Tranny and convertor.

Look for another 700R4 and swap your tailshaft on it.
If it's not a Vette 700r4, then you have to cut the output shaft a bit.

Vic

I would look for another trannny, so you can put it on immediatley and go, then you can overhaul the old one in relaxed time
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Originally Posted by Christi@n

I would look for another trannny, so you can put it on immediatley and go, then you can overhaul the old one in relaxed time
I called a trans shop and he said the chances of finding a 700r4 that would fit in my 85 vette were slim to none.

I told him i had this one dropped out and he didn't seem to change his viewpoint.

then he told me to bring mine in for a full rebuilt to the tune of 2500$.

lol. not happening so i'll continue working this over and eventually get it out. then i'll replace/rebuild the pump, get a new tc and re-install.

one of the more seasoned guys i spoke with said that it sounds like it got very hot and there is a plastic part that melts into the snout of the torque converter and locks it in. I have no idea but i'll find out.

im considering attatching it to the hitch of both my trucks and pulling it off. I saw it done on a youtube video which i thought was really redneck. but now i find myself needing the method myself lol.
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Originally Posted by VikingTrad3r
I called a trans shop and he said the chances of finding a 700r4 that would fit in my 85 vette were slim to none.

I told him i had this one dropped out and he didn't seem to change his viewpoint.

then he told me to bring mine in for a full rebuilt to the tune of 2500$.

lol. not happening so i'll continue working this over and eventually get it out. then i'll replace/rebuild the pump, get a new tc and re-install.

one of the more seasoned guys i spoke with said that it sounds like it got very hot and there is a plastic part that melts into the snout of the torque converter and locks it in. I have no idea but i'll find out.

im considering attatching it to the hitch of both my trucks and pulling it off. I saw it done on a youtube video which i thought was really redneck. but now i find myself needing the method myself lol.
RA have 700r4, i don't know about reman quality...hmm opinions about are pretty controversial here, many people say isn't a good idea to get part from RA.. I frequently get parts from they and i'm pretty happy anout their service...

I've sometimes had a little trouble, but who never had...


Also about TC getting off, i don't know how its made around contact point, so its up to you, but try with a propane torch to warm that area?

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Ehm i'm sorry RA have 700r4 for my car, not for your MY

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Originally Posted by VikingTrad3r
I called a trans shop and he said the chances of finding a 700r4 that would fit in my 85 vette were slim to none.
Any 85-91 700R4 2wd Tranny will do, all you have to do is install YOUR tailshaft (so you can connect the C-beam) and cut the output shaft a bit.

You need a rebuild anyway , and trust me, a quality rebuild will install all new heavy duty parts in it (clutch packs, servo, shift kit).

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im considering attatching it to the hitch of both my trucks and pulling it off. I saw it done on a youtube video which i thought was really redneck. but now i find myself needing the method myself lol

Before you go the redneck route.
Try fabbing up a plate to your TC to attach a slide hammer.It will give you alot more control than yanking it off with your truck.

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Pile drive the trans.

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