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Old 05-24-2016, 02:16 PM
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I have a 95 LT1 with auto trans. I usually warm up the car for a minute or two before taking off. I live on a service drive right off the main highway. If I accelerate at a normal pace to get up to highway speed the motor will stumble and pop then accelerate normally. If I feather it I can get up to speed without a stumble. Once the motor has done it once it will be fine the rest of the day, even on a cold start.

No codes are showing and no check engine light.
Old 05-24-2016, 02:22 PM
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so you have a openloop. Hesitation. O2 is not in play till closed loop. SO you will need to start out & confirm. basic maintenance.
Old 05-24-2016, 02:32 PM
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After a couple min then the service road I am thinking 02s are saying goodby.
Old 05-24-2016, 07:37 PM
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Check for low fuel pressure, a cold engine needs more fueling, so if the pressure is low you could have a stumble at cold operation.
You could have dirty injectors too.
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Originally Posted by ex-x-fire
Check for low fuel pressure, a cold engine needs more fueling, so if the pressure is low you could have a stumble at cold operation.
You could have dirty injectors too.
Fuel pressure is where I would start too.
Old 05-25-2016, 06:58 AM
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The ecm doesn't even pay attention to the o2 when it's cold.
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I guess I will start with fuel pressure. Kind of odd that it pops almost like a backfire. I wouldn't think fuel pressure would cause that.
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Originally Posted by MN JIM
I guess I will start with fuel pressure. Kind of odd that it pops almost like a backfire. I wouldn't think fuel pressure would cause that.
What is your engine temp on the digital when it does it? How many miles and how old are the o2s?

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Engine is still cold. Does not register on the temp gauge in analog. Did not try it in digital. Cat has about 57K on it. I have no idea on the age of the o2;s.
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Originally Posted by MN JIM
Engine is still cold. Does not register on the temp gauge in analog. Did not try it in digital. Cat has about 57K on it. I have no idea on the age of the o2;s.
So no idea the analog is all but useless look at the digital and let us know. If you think the engine is cold after a minute or two grab ahold of the exaust. And the o2s are heated on yours.
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I have a 92 and I'm having a similar problem. Car doesn't run right until about 150+ on the digital. Original 02's (I think) and I haven't gotten Datamaster to work yet so I don't know what the PCM sees.
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My 94 did the same thing I just lived with it. Strange thing once I changed the front two o2s it went away. Looking back it was about the time it would be going into closed loop. They do get old and slow. I believe they are normal maintenance others believe they last forever.

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Originally Posted by MN JIM
I guess I will start with fuel pressure. Kind of odd that it pops almost like a backfire. I wouldn't think fuel pressure would cause that.
It sure can. Low fuel pressure = lean A/F ratio. A very common symptom of a too-lean A/F ratio is backfire through the intake.

I'm not saying that it's not the O2's...it may be. But ex-x-fire is right that the O2's aren't 'in the game" when the engine is cold...and fuel needs to be extra rich.
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I agree^ and on a 95 your MAF sensor is THE MAJOR player in determining commands for the fuel injectors. The 02's are for minor adjustments in the A/F. Make sure that it is clean and dirty free.

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