LT1 Exhaust Options
#22
Le Mans Master
If you're only trying to make the B&B more livable for daily driving, or long road trips, here's a super-inexpensive and simple option for you:
https://www.grainger.com/product/CHERNE-INDUSTRIES-3-Mechanical-Pipe-Plug-1VNG6?s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/1VNG4_AS01?$smthumb$
Buy a pair of them. Replace the wingnuts with standard hex nuts. Use a wet rag to wipe all of the carbon out of the inside of the inner exhaust port on each muffler. Insert one of these plugs as far as it will go into the inner port of each muffler. Tighten securely in place with ratchet/extension/socket. Squirt the large disc, stud and nut flat black before installing them and they'll be nearly invisible.
I did this with the Triflow on my '94 whenever I took it on road trips. It knocked back the overall noise level noticeably, and knocked back the drone almost completely. It tamed things quite nicely, and they're super-easy to install and remove. I noticed no difference in performance for normal street driving, and no increase in operating temperatures, so I was satisfied that any increase in back pressure was minimal, and probably similar to what the OEM system would have. I often left the plugs in for months at a time, just because the car was nearly unbearable with them out, but civilized enough with the inner ports plugged.
If you do try this, be sure to use plugs that have steel discs. Plastic won't stand up to the heat. They'll soften, loosen and pop out of there. That'll be a nasty surprise for the car behind you. And don't skip the step of cleaning the carbon from the inside of the pipe. You want the plug's rubber seal to have a very good grip on bare metal.
Live well,
SJW
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#23
Drifting
Presuming you're running the 3" B&B Triflow, I had some dialog years ago with a guy who did replace the B&B resonator with an X-pipe, and he reported that it did knock the drone back quite a bit. I had contemplated trying it myself, but never got that far, opting instead to replace the B&B with Corsa.
If you're only trying to make the B&B more livable for daily driving, or long road trips, here's a super-inexpensive and simple option for you:
https://www.grainger.com/product/CHERNE-INDUSTRIES-3-Mechanical-Pipe-Plug-1VNG6?s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/1VNG4_AS01?$smthumb$
So the rubber between the disc won't melt??
Buy a pair of them. Replace the wingnuts with standard hex nuts. Use a wet rag to wipe all of the carbon out of the inside of the inner exhaust port on each muffler. Insert one of these plugs as far as it will go into the inner port of each muffler. Tighten securely in place with ratchet/extension/socket. Squirt the large disc, stud and nut flat black before installing them and they'll be nearly invisible.
I did this with the Triflow on my '94 whenever I took it on road trips. It knocked back the overall noise level noticeably, and knocked back the drone almost completely. It tamed things quite nicely, and they're super-easy to install and remove. I noticed no difference in performance for normal street driving, and no increase in operating temperatures, so I was satisfied that any increase in back pressure was minimal, and probably similar to what the OEM system would have. I often left the plugs in for months at a time, just because the car was nearly unbearable with them out, but civilized enough with the inner ports plugged.
If you do try this, be sure to use plugs that have steel discs. Plastic won't stand up to the heat. They'll soften, loosen and pop out of there. That'll be a nasty surprise for the car behind you. And don't skip the step of cleaning the carbon from the inside of the pipe. You want the plug's rubber seal to have a very good grip on bare metal.
Live well,
SJW
If you're only trying to make the B&B more livable for daily driving, or long road trips, here's a super-inexpensive and simple option for you:
https://www.grainger.com/product/CHERNE-INDUSTRIES-3-Mechanical-Pipe-Plug-1VNG6?s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/1VNG4_AS01?$smthumb$
So the rubber between the disc won't melt??
Buy a pair of them. Replace the wingnuts with standard hex nuts. Use a wet rag to wipe all of the carbon out of the inside of the inner exhaust port on each muffler. Insert one of these plugs as far as it will go into the inner port of each muffler. Tighten securely in place with ratchet/extension/socket. Squirt the large disc, stud and nut flat black before installing them and they'll be nearly invisible.
I did this with the Triflow on my '94 whenever I took it on road trips. It knocked back the overall noise level noticeably, and knocked back the drone almost completely. It tamed things quite nicely, and they're super-easy to install and remove. I noticed no difference in performance for normal street driving, and no increase in operating temperatures, so I was satisfied that any increase in back pressure was minimal, and probably similar to what the OEM system would have. I often left the plugs in for months at a time, just because the car was nearly unbearable with them out, but civilized enough with the inner ports plugged.
If you do try this, be sure to use plugs that have steel discs. Plastic won't stand up to the heat. They'll soften, loosen and pop out of there. That'll be a nasty surprise for the car behind you. And don't skip the step of cleaning the carbon from the inside of the pipe. You want the plug's rubber seal to have a very good grip on bare metal.
Live well,
SJW
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I've got a factory system on mine - i'd meet you halfway for a trade! It still looks fresh with no visible rust. Sounds good, but I want it louder.
Last edited by matthewsorrells; 10-21-2016 at 02:36 PM.
#27
Drifting
WOW - I put the plugs in - big difference in the sound - a lot better now - still got some drone at 1200-1600 rpm under load but a huge improvement in what I had - thanks.
Last edited by BLUDICE; 10-21-2016 at 04:11 PM.
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There got to be at least over 500 threads on exhaust options. All of them say the same. Magnacrap is a total waste of money unless you like to have drone. Corsa, and muffler eliminators are always the choice.
Back in 2008 I chose Magnacrap over Corsa to save $300.
Well, that 300 dollar savings became a $1,200 Corsa purchase.
Do a search on my threads and all your questions will be answered.
Back in 2008 I chose Magnacrap over Corsa to save $300.
Well, that 300 dollar savings became a $1,200 Corsa purchase.
Do a search on my threads and all your questions will be answered.
#31
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1995, replaced center muffler/resonator with straight pipes and replaced back 2 mufflers with flow masters, sounds great at idle but drone is way too much, not sure what direction to go now
#32
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#33
Presuming you're running the 3" B&B Triflow, I had some dialog years ago with a guy who did replace the B&B resonator with an X-pipe, and he reported that it did knock the drone back quite a bit. I had contemplated trying it myself, but never got that far, opting instead to replace the B&B with Corsa.
If you're only trying to make the B&B more livable for daily driving, or long road trips, here's a super-inexpensive and simple option for you:
https://www.grainger.com/product/CHERNE-INDUSTRIES-3-Mechanical-Pipe-Plug-1VNG6?s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/1VNG4_AS01?$smthumb$
Buy a pair of them. Replace the wingnuts with standard hex nuts. Use a wet rag to wipe all of the carbon out of the inside of the inner exhaust port on each muffler. Insert one of these plugs as far as it will go into the inner port of each muffler. Tighten securely in place with ratchet/extension/socket. Squirt the large disc, stud and nut flat black before installing them and they'll be nearly invisible.
I did this with the Triflow on my '94 whenever I took it on road trips. It knocked back the overall noise level noticeably, and knocked back the drone almost completely. It tamed things quite nicely, and they're super-easy to install and remove. I noticed no difference in performance for normal street driving, and no increase in operating temperatures, so I was satisfied that any increase in back pressure was minimal, and probably similar to what the OEM system would have. I often left the plugs in for months at a time, just because the car was nearly unbearable with them out, but civilized enough with the inner ports plugged.
If you do try this, be sure to use plugs that have steel discs. Plastic won't stand up to the heat. They'll soften, loosen and pop out of there. That'll be a nasty surprise for the car behind you. And don't skip the step of cleaning the carbon from the inside of the pipe. You want the plug's rubber seal to have a very good grip on bare metal.
Live well,
SJW
If you're only trying to make the B&B more livable for daily driving, or long road trips, here's a super-inexpensive and simple option for you:
https://www.grainger.com/product/CHERNE-INDUSTRIES-3-Mechanical-Pipe-Plug-1VNG6?s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/1VNG4_AS01?$smthumb$
Buy a pair of them. Replace the wingnuts with standard hex nuts. Use a wet rag to wipe all of the carbon out of the inside of the inner exhaust port on each muffler. Insert one of these plugs as far as it will go into the inner port of each muffler. Tighten securely in place with ratchet/extension/socket. Squirt the large disc, stud and nut flat black before installing them and they'll be nearly invisible.
I did this with the Triflow on my '94 whenever I took it on road trips. It knocked back the overall noise level noticeably, and knocked back the drone almost completely. It tamed things quite nicely, and they're super-easy to install and remove. I noticed no difference in performance for normal street driving, and no increase in operating temperatures, so I was satisfied that any increase in back pressure was minimal, and probably similar to what the OEM system would have. I often left the plugs in for months at a time, just because the car was nearly unbearable with them out, but civilized enough with the inner ports plugged.
If you do try this, be sure to use plugs that have steel discs. Plastic won't stand up to the heat. They'll soften, loosen and pop out of there. That'll be a nasty surprise for the car behind you. And don't skip the step of cleaning the carbon from the inside of the pipe. You want the plug's rubber seal to have a very good grip on bare metal.
Live well,
SJW
Thanks again!!!
#35
Le Mans Master
Live well,
SJW
#36
Presuming you're running the 3" B&B Triflow, I had some dialog years ago with a guy who did replace the B&B resonator with an X-pipe, and he reported that it did knock the drone back quite a bit. I had contemplated trying it myself, but never got that far, opting instead to replace the B&B with Corsa.
If you're only trying to make the B&B more livable for daily driving, or long road trips, here's a super-inexpensive and simple option for you:
https://www.grainger.com/product/CHERNE-INDUSTRIES-3-Mechanical-Pipe-Plug-1VNG6?s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/1VNG4_AS01?$smthumb$
Buy a pair of them. Replace the wingnuts with standard hex nuts. Use a wet rag to wipe all of the carbon out of the inside of the inner exhaust port on each muffler. Insert one of these plugs as far as it will go into the inner port of each muffler. Tighten securely in place with ratchet/extension/socket. Squirt the large disc, stud and nut flat black before installing them and they'll be nearly invisible.
I did this with the Triflow on my '94 whenever I took it on road trips. It knocked back the overall noise level noticeably, and knocked back the drone almost completely. It tamed things quite nicely, and they're super-easy to install and remove. I noticed no difference in performance for normal street driving, and no increase in operating temperatures, so I was satisfied that any increase in back pressure was minimal, and probably similar to what the OEM system would have. I often left the plugs in for months at a time, just because the car was nearly unbearable with them out, but civilized enough with the inner ports plugged.
If you do try this, be sure to use plugs that have steel discs. Plastic won't stand up to the heat. They'll soften, loosen and pop out of there. That'll be a nasty surprise for the car behind you. And don't skip the step of cleaning the carbon from the inside of the pipe. You want the plug's rubber seal to have a very good grip on bare metal.
Live well,
SJW
If you're only trying to make the B&B more livable for daily driving, or long road trips, here's a super-inexpensive and simple option for you:
https://www.grainger.com/product/CHERNE-INDUSTRIES-3-Mechanical-Pipe-Plug-1VNG6?s_pp=false&picUrl=//static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/1VNG4_AS01?$smthumb$
Buy a pair of them. Replace the wingnuts with standard hex nuts. Use a wet rag to wipe all of the carbon out of the inside of the inner exhaust port on each muffler. Insert one of these plugs as far as it will go into the inner port of each muffler. Tighten securely in place with ratchet/extension/socket. Squirt the large disc, stud and nut flat black before installing them and they'll be nearly invisible.
I did this with the Triflow on my '94 whenever I took it on road trips. It knocked back the overall noise level noticeably, and knocked back the drone almost completely. It tamed things quite nicely, and they're super-easy to install and remove. I noticed no difference in performance for normal street driving, and no increase in operating temperatures, so I was satisfied that any increase in back pressure was minimal, and probably similar to what the OEM system would have. I often left the plugs in for months at a time, just because the car was nearly unbearable with them out, but civilized enough with the inner ports plugged.
If you do try this, be sure to use plugs that have steel discs. Plastic won't stand up to the heat. They'll soften, loosen and pop out of there. That'll be a nasty surprise for the car behind you. And don't skip the step of cleaning the carbon from the inside of the pipe. You want the plug's rubber seal to have a very good grip on bare metal.
Live well,
SJW
#37
The test drive was much quieter and I didn't need earplugs. I drove it around long enough for the mufflers to get hot and then I stood on it and they stayed in place.
Thanks a ton!!!
#38
Le Mans Master
I just installed the pipe plugs on the B&B mufflers and it made a huge difference. I installed them on the inside exhaust pipes. I used a flap sanding drum to remove the carbon and a little brake cleaner. I also had to grind on the pipe plug a little to get it past the chrome tips. I didn't bother with the hex nut and left the wing nut on them but I did spray paint them black.
The test drive was much quieter and I didn't need earplugs. I drove it around long enough for the mufflers to get hot and then I stood on it and they stayed in place.
Thanks a ton!!!
The test drive was much quieter and I didn't need earplugs. I drove it around long enough for the mufflers to get hot and then I stood on it and they stayed in place.
Thanks a ton!!!
BTW, carbon dissolves quickly with plain water. No need to break out the sander!
I would recommend you go ahead and swap out the wingnuts with hex nuts. You'll be able to get them much tighter, and it'll also be a lot easier to get them out. If the wings break off of the wingnuts, you'll have a hard time getting the plugs out.
Live well,
SJW
#39
The difference is amazing, isn't it?
BTW, carbon dissolves quickly with plain water. No need to break out the sander!
I would recommend you go ahead and swap out the wingnuts with hex nuts. You'll be able to get them much tighter, and it'll also be a lot easier to get them out. If the wings break off of the wingnuts, you'll have a hard time getting the plugs out.
Live well,
SJW
BTW, carbon dissolves quickly with plain water. No need to break out the sander!
I would recommend you go ahead and swap out the wingnuts with hex nuts. You'll be able to get them much tighter, and it'll also be a lot easier to get them out. If the wings break off of the wingnuts, you'll have a hard time getting the plugs out.
Live well,
SJW
Thanks again
#40
Intermediate