Help me build a 1000 hp LTX (really)
#21
Yes the Miniram has a larger plenum. Are you eliminating the Opti? I would think Jim would suggest this. I ran an aftermarket distributor!
Let me know when your ready to sell the car.
Let me know when your ready to sell the car.
#23
Race Director
Props for not going LS. I know it's a "better" engine, but it is every where. And I'm no hipster, but I like having something most don't have. Sorry man, can't give you any tips. I'd be happy with a cam, LT's, and roller rockers Badass car btw, I love your choice of wheels. Of course, I may be a bit biased
#24
Melting Slicks
Yep, you may not remember but I sent you a PM a while back about Jim and your recommendation (among many others here) is what led me to him!
Yep! I forget what brand but we are using a shaft kit.
Thanks Bill
Based on Jim's recommendation, and further research, I actually ordered a Miniram today. It will be port matched to the AFR 227's.
After talking more with Jim, 1000 is probably a bit unrealistic for what is basically a street car. With 10-12 lbs we are guessing it will come in around 800 crank hp or so? Who knows, that's way more than I can use on the street anyway.
Regarding compression ratio, general consensus seems to be around 9.5 or so, we'll probably be close to that.
Consensus on injectors seems to be 80, so that's what I'm going to go with.
And yeah, there is absolutely NO question an LSX would be cheaper, but there is a million reasons I don't want to do LSX . . . . and frankly it just wouldn't be as cool in my opinion. Certainly wouldn't be as much of a conversation piece!
Yep! I forget what brand but we are using a shaft kit.
Thanks Bill
Based on Jim's recommendation, and further research, I actually ordered a Miniram today. It will be port matched to the AFR 227's.
After talking more with Jim, 1000 is probably a bit unrealistic for what is basically a street car. With 10-12 lbs we are guessing it will come in around 800 crank hp or so? Who knows, that's way more than I can use on the street anyway.
Regarding compression ratio, general consensus seems to be around 9.5 or so, we'll probably be close to that.
Consensus on injectors seems to be 80, so that's what I'm going to go with.
And yeah, there is absolutely NO question an LSX would be cheaper, but there is a million reasons I don't want to do LSX . . . . and frankly it just wouldn't be as cool in my opinion. Certainly wouldn't be as much of a conversation piece!
#25
So I have been down this path, but with an L98 vs LT1. And an LT1 is not so different from the old L98.
My thoughts, build the engine assy as bulletproof as possible. My bottom end consisted of a 4" stroke Crower Super-Lite crank, Oliver billet rods, JE Custom pistons, block was bored 0.030, fully relieved, splayed billet caps, half-fill and set with 9.7 scr. I used Swains-coating extensively in the engine build.
I used AFR220 with shaft rockers, large SR cam (248/254 @ 0.50, 0.7xx lift) and a modified single plane intake with mono-blade TB. 1-7/8" headers.
Initially I went with Bosch 85 lb/hr, but fell short on fuel (even with MeOH injection) with the R series blower. I later changed to 120 lb/hr injectors.
I ran steady in the 25+psig range, but during the winter it will exceed a 3BAR MAP.
All is tuned with FAST programming.
Build the bottom end as strong as possible so you only have to do it once. You can easily exceed 1000WHP with the proper combination of parts and enough boost.
Best of luck,
Aaron
My thoughts, build the engine assy as bulletproof as possible. My bottom end consisted of a 4" stroke Crower Super-Lite crank, Oliver billet rods, JE Custom pistons, block was bored 0.030, fully relieved, splayed billet caps, half-fill and set with 9.7 scr. I used Swains-coating extensively in the engine build.
I used AFR220 with shaft rockers, large SR cam (248/254 @ 0.50, 0.7xx lift) and a modified single plane intake with mono-blade TB. 1-7/8" headers.
Initially I went with Bosch 85 lb/hr, but fell short on fuel (even with MeOH injection) with the R series blower. I later changed to 120 lb/hr injectors.
I ran steady in the 25+psig range, but during the winter it will exceed a 3BAR MAP.
All is tuned with FAST programming.
Build the bottom end as strong as possible so you only have to do it once. You can easily exceed 1000WHP with the proper combination of parts and enough boost.
Best of luck,
Aaron
#26
It seems the math for power vs fuel injectors needs to be bumped up a little in the real world.
I was also being sarcastic about the LSX... I still have my l98, and would not swap it, even though all the BS I got for it, might make a little more hp then my supercharged LS6 that is street legal and passes ca emissions. I would not want the headache of swapping in an lsx series for a C4 anyhow. mo money for mods.
Also the LSx series also has distribution issues in the intake as well. I think it is #7 cylinder that has the issue.
#27
I was going to mention, most builds of years past always ended up with a dyno pull that had to be cut short because of fuel issues. lines/pump/injectors 100% duty cycle.
It seems the math for power vs fuel injectors needs to be bumped up a little in the real world.
It seems the math for power vs fuel injectors needs to be bumped up a little in the real world.
I had plenty of fuel once I upgraded the complete system. Weldon Pump, All large braided stainless or hard lines and the larger injectors. The components are out there to build big power; it just costs money.
I was also being sarcastic about the LSX... I still have my l98, and would not swap it, even though all the BS I got for it, might make a little more hp then my supercharged LS6 that is street legal and passes ca emissions. I would not want the headache of swapping in an lsx series for a C4 anyhow. mo money for mods.
Also the LSx series also has distribution issues in the intake as well. I think it is #7 cylinder that has the issue.
Also the LSx series also has distribution issues in the intake as well. I think it is #7 cylinder that has the issue.
So true... I just replaced #7 slug over Christmas on my TT LS car. The C6 runs great now, but already initiated an ERL Superdeck 427 that will likely hold anything that I choose to throw at it in the foreseeable future. For now the engine will be tucked away, but I feel certain it will have a use soon enough.
#28
Melting Slicks
Following this thread.
Looking forward to the results.
I also have a solid axle C4 with 6 speed. I am in the process of installing a p600B. Will try to run it on e85.
Good luck!
Steve
Looking forward to the results.
I also have a solid axle C4 with 6 speed. I am in the process of installing a p600B. Will try to run it on e85.
Good luck!
Steve
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Sounds like fun dont get too caught up in #s they dont win races
Follow your builders lead and stick with it.
Follow your builders lead and stick with it.