1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice.
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1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice.
I got an '84 Corvette with Crossfire injection from a friend of mine last week. I want to remove this system and add an aluminum intake and either a Holley or Edelbrock carb to it. My question is what has to be changed in order to accomplish this? If anyone knows or has done it - please fill me in. This crossfire injection is a real pig for performance. I just want to be able to run a little harded on this car.
Thanks,
Pablo L.
Thanks,
Pablo L.
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (AtlasEngr)
do you have emissions testing? if so, you will want to come up with a better plan.
I know for a fact there are a lot of people who have done this.
I know for a fact there are a lot of people who have done this.
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (bogus)
No emissions is not an issue down here. I need to know what to do with the fuel pump deal. Electrical to mechanical.
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (AtlasEngr)
I believe you can stay with the same fuel pump set up, you'll need to add an inline pressure regulator if I remember correctly. The current pump is to high for a naturally aspirated set up.
Also, keep your hood clearence in mind!!!!
Also, keep your hood clearence in mind!!!!
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (edsalinas)
What would be the proper pressure? Somethink like 6-8 lbs, right? Anyone have a picture of a carb install or a link to someone that does?
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (AtlasEngr)
I know those who have done it... but with the search feature not working, its gonna be tough to find'm... cause, sadly, I can't remember... :(
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (AtlasEngr)
Do a search there is a ton of info on this.
I did this swap when I had the L83 in my 84 and it was fairly stright forward.
Leave the wiring for the sensors, Oil Temp/Presh and Water temp
Put a regulator between the feed line and return line with a T going to the Carb (I had mine set at 6PSI)
If you have an auto install a TC lock up kit (Check post by Slambo you may not have to do this one but I did)
Replace the distributor with a non-ECM controled unit (76 Corvette HEI works well)
Select as low profile intake and air cleaner as posible.
Thats about it remove the X-fire bolt up the new intake and carb and start the motor. All of your gauges will work fine so don't worey about that.
I did this swap when I had the L83 in my 84 and it was fairly stright forward.
Leave the wiring for the sensors, Oil Temp/Presh and Water temp
Put a regulator between the feed line and return line with a T going to the Carb (I had mine set at 6PSI)
If you have an auto install a TC lock up kit (Check post by Slambo you may not have to do this one but I did)
Replace the distributor with a non-ECM controled unit (76 Corvette HEI works well)
Select as low profile intake and air cleaner as posible.
Thats about it remove the X-fire bolt up the new intake and carb and start the motor. All of your gauges will work fine so don't worey about that.
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (AtlasEngr)
i did this to my 85.
1- for fuel i used a carter elec pump and mounted it in the back. I removed the intank pump and extended it with a piece of 3/8 fuel line hose. I used the origonal fuel pump power wire to power the pump.
2- you need to get the geometry of the 700r-4 cab linkage right , use this link.http://www.transmissioncenter.net/700R4.htm[/url] The part is $33. You can go to 700r-4.com and buy an internal lockup set up for $70
3. Hood clearance is an issue. I used a weiand stealth intake with a drop air cleaner 3" element and had to use a flat lid. If you don't plan to go over 5500 rpm or use nitrous i would use a edelbroc performer intake and then you don't need the flat lid, ( but you still need the drop base) You'll also need holley bracket 20-95 ( i think) it's the 700 r-4 and throttle bracket.
I can recommend a car if you tell me your motor specs.
[Modified by mike 1985, 3:45 PM 3/4/2004]
1- for fuel i used a carter elec pump and mounted it in the back. I removed the intank pump and extended it with a piece of 3/8 fuel line hose. I used the origonal fuel pump power wire to power the pump.
2- you need to get the geometry of the 700r-4 cab linkage right , use this link.http://www.transmissioncenter.net/700R4.htm[/url] The part is $33. You can go to 700r-4.com and buy an internal lockup set up for $70
3. Hood clearance is an issue. I used a weiand stealth intake with a drop air cleaner 3" element and had to use a flat lid. If you don't plan to go over 5500 rpm or use nitrous i would use a edelbroc performer intake and then you don't need the flat lid, ( but you still need the drop base) You'll also need holley bracket 20-95 ( i think) it's the 700 r-4 and throttle bracket.
I can recommend a car if you tell me your motor specs.
[Modified by mike 1985, 3:45 PM 3/4/2004]
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (AtlasEngr)
I just hate to see someone take a step back wards. The Crossfire isn't THAT bad. You probably can make it faster with a carb. You'll lose some of the ease of starting, drive ability and fuel mileage. Others before you have done it an loved it. Some didn't. Good luck and...
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (CFI-EFI)
CFI-EFI is correct...You can have your cake and eat it too.Get you an X-Ram Intake system http://www.x-ram.com upgrade your ECM to a 7747 or 8746 and you'll have all the power you need and retain drivability, fuel mileage etc.I have an 84' putting out roughly 375 H.P.(when my Computer tuning is done)
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (CAJUN C4)
CAJUN C4,
You have done some heathy modifications. What kind of 1/4 mile numbers does it produce?
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You have done some heathy modifications. What kind of 1/4 mile numbers does it produce?
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (AtlasEngr)
[QUOTE]I got an '84 Corvette with Crossfire injection from a friend of mine last week. I want to remove this system and add an aluminum intake and either a Holley or Edelbrock carb to it. My question is what has to be changed in order to accomplish this? If anyone knows or has done it - please fill me in. This crossfire injection is a real pig for performance. I just want to be able to run a little harded on this car.
Thanks,
Pablo L
You can do that much easier than going the carb route. What does run a little harder mean to you?
Thanks,
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You can do that much easier than going the carb route. What does run a little harder mean to you?
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (CFI-EFI)
I havn't run it at the track yet.Put engine in last July.Getting ready to upgrade the ECM to an 8746 with custom PROM and start tuning.Only action I saw was racing 3 Cobras..Allmost kept up with them.beat me by 1 to 1.5 car lengths to a little over 100 mph.Computer tuning should reverse that along with stickier tires.
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (CAJUN C4)
I wish you good luck with it. Any idea how soon? I love to keep up with what other Crossfire owners are running. We start racing, here, a month from today.
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (CFI-EFI)
I have to vote for carb, my carbed engine runs much better than my TPI ever did, there is a lot involved though if you do everything right. I just like being able to make power at 6500 rpm.
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (jp2002ls1)
I have to vote for carb, my carbed engine runs much better than my TPI ever did, there is a lot involved though if you do everything right. I just like being able to make power at 6500 rpm.
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Re: 1984 Corvette - Want to remove X-fire and install Mechanical Carb- Need advice. (jp2002ls1)
I just like being able to make power at 6500 rpm.
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[Modified by CFI-EFI, 11:12 AM 3/10/2004]