L98 Head Bolts & Washers?
01-11-2005, 03:01 PM
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L98 Head Bolts & Washers?
The stock head bolts on my 86 alum. heads have washers. The new set of Manley head bolts are shoulder bolts with no washers. Should I add washers or not? No washers = affect on torque readings?
01-11-2005, 03:55 PM
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Defintely use washers so as not to gall the Al head with the bolts as they get torqued down.
btw, for anyone reading, don't re-use factory head bolts as they are torque to yield. They've stretched.
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btw, for anyone reading, don't re-use factory head bolts as they are torque to yield. They've stretched.
ARP
Last edited by pablocruise; 01-11-2005 at 04:00 PM. Reason: spelling
01-11-2005, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 89 Paul in Cal
btw, for anyone reading, don't re-use factory head bolts as they are torque to yield. They've stretched.
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01-11-2005, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by geezel
Late 86 with aluminum heads. I'm actually installing a new set of AFR/TPIS heads now.
01-11-2005, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
On an '86???
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However, on Aluminum heads as far as I am concerned, you need to use washers on the bolts to prevent the harder steel bolt galling (cutting into for want of a better description) the softer aluminum head when tightening/torquing down.
Check the application list for your new bolts, if they dont have washers, they may be meant for cast iron heads only.
01-11-2005, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by geezel
"Shoulder" bolt is the wrong term. They have a flange that is formed as part of the hex head which may act as the washer.
01-11-2005, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Davemc1963-87conv
I think CFI-EFI means that on an 86 the bolts if original would not have been torque to yield fasteners and can be reused.
Even with a flange headed bolt, I would use a washer if the bolts are long enough.
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01-12-2005, 10:11 AM
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I have built my own engines since I was 17 years old but had never came across "torque to yield" head bolts before my 85 L98. I knew the small block torque spec and sequence by heart so I just went ahead and started tightening the head bolts down. As luck would have it I snapped off the last one to be tightened. I was highly miffed so I went and bought a whole new set, this is when I learned about "torque to yield". Sure wish I had new it a couple hours earlier. Anyway, do NOT re-use any headbolts and I agree with CFI-EFI, use washers if length permits. The shoulder of the bolt is still going to gall the aluminum.
01-12-2005, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VetNutJim
Where to get HARDENED WASHERS guys?
Don't use standard soft ones.
Don't use standard soft ones.
