007Duc

Not sure who here cares, but there is a guy on the forum here putting these ZR1 Carbon Ceramic brakes on his C5Z. If you consider that they out perform iron big brake kits, even if just slightly, plus the rate at which they wear, if you don't track your car every week could potentially last the life of your car, pads and rotors, actually make them cheaper then an iron big brake kit over the life of the vehicle. Because you will be replacing rotors and pads with the iron kits which are not cheap by any means.

MRDZR1

6 pistons Wilwood, Baer, Stoptech, etc... are very efficient (amazing) with the proper pads for the track and over kill for the road.
The standard 2 pistons C4 ZR-1 system work fine with good pads and are quite impressive with DTC 70 frt & 60's rr on the track!!!

mgg

MRDZR-1 you are absolutely correct. Any of the following are excellent brake set ups for the street. Six piston Wilwood, Stoptech, Baer are reasonably priced and with the correct pad for the street are more than adequate. For racing you must consider replacement parts. This is where it gets expensive. I have used with great success Wilwood GN six piston calipers on my race car . They have NO bling value but stop as well if not better than any brake package I have driven. MY car weighs about 2860 lbs (c4) with stock brakes at the rear and cannot think of one occasion of being out braked for a pass by another competitor. These brakes can withstand 20 minute sprints braking from 150mph regularly. With excellent cooling ducts these things are fantastic. The Wilwood superlights that I have on my ZR-1 with a midly aggressive sreet pad are fine for the street. Highly unlikely you will ever get even remotely close to track temps so fade is probably not ever going to be an issue. The best part aabout the WILWOOd gn is rotor replacement. You can buy Coleman rotors for about half to a third of what the other manufactures want. If your racing and going through rotors and pads this is a BIG factor. As mentioned a set of C5 brakes with good pads is a nice upgrade as well for not a lot of money. The best news is that there are many good choices but 12k ZR1 would not be on my list! As you well know make sure whar ever package you choose will fit with your current wheel set up. Brakes are a great upgrade that you can feel immediately after they are bedded in properly. Good luck.
Mike

Dominic Sorresso

Graham Behan said Lingenfelter would not use Baer brakes again.

scholtmj

Why?

scholtmj

????

Dominic Sorresso

Because they had a set on one of their cars doing brake testing and
Fastest Mile. 3 rotor cracked, one each run randomly. Graham said they literally heard what sounded like a rifle shot when the car was cooling down and the found rotors cracked nearly in half. They asked the Baer representatives to explain how hey were treating the rotors and no satisfactory explanation was given. That's when Graham told Baer they would never use their stuff again. They now use Alcon and Brembo.

scholtmj

Ah, gotcha. I remember reading that regarding LPE's TT Z06 - maybe in a Motor Trend. Disturbing Baer could not give any technical data regarding the rotors.

I have a 6P kit on my Trans Am, but it's a little shy of 1000hp.

http://www.lingenfelter.com/vehicles...7-shoot-out-ca

mike100

I don't see doing any exotic brakes on a street C4. Whatever the lightest rotor setup with an upgraded caliper seems good enough to me.

MRDZR1

They might be fragile compare to other brand but, when you track (use them hard) you need to cool them gradualy as possible so the expension cycle does not cause them to crack. But it sound like Baer might had an issue here?

Cussy

I have a complete set of carbon fiber rotors ft and rear with pads with sensors pads are at 10 mm 5k miles if interested call me at 863-393-2343

secondchance

You mean carbon ceramic?

Rkreigh

I remember that story! I have the older BAER Alcon brakes with the LPE logos on them but that was back in 97

now you can get the CF ZR-1 rotors for about 1200 each or less, and the calipers aren't that bad either. nice upgrade, give me 12k and I'll laugh at the bank with the rest of the cash!

JimZRyd

Was this 20+ years ago? Or when? I've always heard good stuff about Baer. I've also heard that if the rotors are drilled you increase the risk of cracking. So if they hammered a set of drilled ones it might explain. Their products should have improved over the years as most others have. Just my opinion fellas.