ZR1 market
#1
ZR1 market
I have always desired/lusted for a ZR1 ever since GM announced their production back in 1989. they were always out of my price range and when they started dropping into affordable ranges I shied away thinking they would be to hard to find good tech persons and parts for repairs. after doing more research on the indestructibility of the LT5 my attitude has changed. I have decided to look for a '92 ZR1. I pick that year because I see that there was some good updates to the cabin, instruments, weatherstripping, insulation, and the side ZR1 logo was added. Also the production numbers dropped more in line with the '93-95's. I'll be looking for one that is very clean inside and out with no major modifications that cannot be put back to stock, with 30,000 to no more than 70,000 miles.
My question to the board is this:
How has the price trend on these ZR1's been in the past 5 to 7 years. Have they stayed fairly flat or have they been drifting upwards? I have read two articles that project the ZR1 to explode in price soon. (Jalopnicks 6/27/14 article).
I have a clean '88 I would have to sell first and then convince my wife....lol
My question to the board is this:
How has the price trend on these ZR1's been in the past 5 to 7 years. Have they stayed fairly flat or have they been drifting upwards? I have read two articles that project the ZR1 to explode in price soon. (Jalopnicks 6/27/14 article).
I have a clean '88 I would have to sell first and then convince my wife....lol
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Even the pristine ones are a bargain right now. Good luck in your search. Some of the best information can be found here. http://zr1netregistry.com/Home.aspx
#3
Drifting
First to answer your question the market has stayed flat for the last ten years.
The entire collector car market is down right now. My speculation is people are worried about the economy especially with the upcoming 2016 election.
ZR-1's especially low mile original examples are investment grade cars regardless of model year. The latter cars will most likely command more green, however the one year only bodystyle 90 will be the surprise collector dream.
The entire collector car market is down right now. My speculation is people are worried about the economy especially with the upcoming 2016 election.
ZR-1's especially low mile original examples are investment grade cars regardless of model year. The latter cars will most likely command more green, however the one year only bodystyle 90 will be the surprise collector dream.
#4
Drifting
I have always desired/lusted for a ZR1 ever since GM announced their production back in 1989. they were always out of my price range and when they started dropping into affordable ranges I shied away thinking they would be to hard to find good tech persons and parts for repairs. after doing more research on the indestructibility of the LT5 my attitude has changed. I have decided to look for a '92 ZR1. I pick that year because I see that there was some good updates to the cabin, instruments, weatherstripping, insulation, and the side ZR1 logo was added. Also the production numbers dropped more in line with the '93-95's. I'll be looking for one that is very clean inside and out with no major modifications that cannot be put back to stock, with 30,000 to no more than 70,000 miles.
My question to the board is this:
How has the price trend on these ZR1's been in the past 5 to 7 years. Have they stayed fairly flat or have they been drifting upwards? I have read two articles that project the ZR1 to explode in price soon. (Jalopnicks 6/27/14 article).
I have a clean '88 I would have to sell first and then convince my wife....lol
My question to the board is this:
How has the price trend on these ZR1's been in the past 5 to 7 years. Have they stayed fairly flat or have they been drifting upwards? I have read two articles that project the ZR1 to explode in price soon. (Jalopnicks 6/27/14 article).
I have a clean '88 I would have to sell first and then convince my wife....lol
One value guide (Sports Car Market magazine) considers ZR-1s to be of average collector interest and expected to move with the overall market. I think they are a bit conservative in that regard, as these are quite special cars. In their pocket guide for 2015 they show a low/high range for stock #2 condition (not national show quality) 92s to range from $20,500 to $30,500, 93s $21,500 to $34,500, 94s $30,500 to $41,500 and 95s $31,500 to $43,000. Modifications may add or detract to values depending on a buyer's interests. Many ZR-1 owners modify their cars and some of those modifications can be quite expensive and do not add huge amount of value on resale (ask me how I know). If it is your desire to do some performance modifications, then it is definitely best to buy a car already modified by a knowledgeable ZR-1 person. While I realize you are interested I a '92, my 30k mile '95 can serve as an example. I had significant performance modifications done by one of the very best ZR-1 experts and have about $55k invested but it is advertised for sale at $39,950. I have saved all the parts so the car ban be put back to stock and have loved every minute of the modifications. That's my return on investment, what we call the "Permagrin". So much depends on what your goals are. And, of course, whether your wife will let you achieve them . --Bob
#5
Looks like you have just a couple of small hurdles to overcome, but your instincts are right. ZR-1s are great cars and may become very valuable in the future but as noted above, they are generally market priced these days and have perhaps drifting upwards with the overall market for collector cars in the past few years. But it all depends on the car.
One value guide (Sports Car Market magazine) considers ZR-1s to be of average collector interest and expected to move with the overall market. I think they are a bit conservative in that regard, as these are quite special cars. In their pocket guide for 2015 they show a low/high range for stock #2 condition (not national show quality) 92s to range from $20,500 to $30,500, 93s $21,500 to $34,500, 94s $30,500 to $41,500 and 95s $31,500 to $43,000. Modifications may add or detract to values depending on a buyer's interests. Many ZR-1 owners modify their cars and some of those modifications can be quite expensive and do not add huge amount of value on resale (ask me how I know). If it is your desire to do some performance modifications, then it is definitely best to buy a car already modified by a knowledgeable ZR-1 person. While I realize you are interested I a '92, my 30k mile '95 can serve as an example. I had significant performance modifications done by one of the very best ZR-1 experts and have about $55k invested but it is advertised for sale at $39,950. I have saved all the parts so the car ban be put back to stock and have loved every minute of the modifications. That's my return on investment, what we call the "Permagrin". So much depends on what your goals are. And, of course, whether your wife will let you achieve them . --Bob
One value guide (Sports Car Market magazine) considers ZR-1s to be of average collector interest and expected to move with the overall market. I think they are a bit conservative in that regard, as these are quite special cars. In their pocket guide for 2015 they show a low/high range for stock #2 condition (not national show quality) 92s to range from $20,500 to $30,500, 93s $21,500 to $34,500, 94s $30,500 to $41,500 and 95s $31,500 to $43,000. Modifications may add or detract to values depending on a buyer's interests. Many ZR-1 owners modify their cars and some of those modifications can be quite expensive and do not add huge amount of value on resale (ask me how I know). If it is your desire to do some performance modifications, then it is definitely best to buy a car already modified by a knowledgeable ZR-1 person. While I realize you are interested I a '92, my 30k mile '95 can serve as an example. I had significant performance modifications done by one of the very best ZR-1 experts and have about $55k invested but it is advertised for sale at $39,950. I have saved all the parts so the car ban be put back to stock and have loved every minute of the modifications. That's my return on investment, what we call the "Permagrin". So much depends on what your goals are. And, of course, whether your wife will let you achieve them . --Bob
#6
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The 92 is probably the hardest ZR-1 to find. It was a one year hybrid of 90-92 motor w 93-95 upgrades including ASR. ONLY 502 Of them compared to 1344 93-95s. 95s only one w new gill panels and possible Dunn heads.
#7
Team Owner
I wonder why the 94's and 95's are so much higher in price than the 92's and 93's? All four years had very limited production. Only 50 units less than the 92's. In regards to modifications I prefer none other than good non header exhaust system, a prom chip and possibly nice wheels as long as the originals were kept. Nothing else. buying a nice 92 will be a stretch for me so any later models are not in my radar. If the 90's had a side ZR1 emblem I would buy a 90......seriously! lol I will be into next year before i scrape up enough cash and by then i can sway the good wife.
#8
Drifting
Most pay more for the added horsepower, airbags, and fatboy seats in the 94-95 model. The 93 still has fat boy seats, though the older style, but no airbags.
I think the later cars are a bit heaver so the HP increase is basically moot. If I was looking for another, it would be a 93. Then I wouldn't have to worry about the airbag deploying into my child's face and killing him. To my knowledge they can't be shut off.
I think the later cars are a bit heaver so the HP increase is basically moot. If I was looking for another, it would be a 93. Then I wouldn't have to worry about the airbag deploying into my child's face and killing him. To my knowledge they can't be shut off.
#9
Instructor
I read a few of the zr-1 king of the hill magazines that came out that featured 90 and 91 cars. It seemed the attitude that people had owning the earlier cars was ecstatic compared to today. A few people had the fastest car around and could afford the zr-1 and these owners had something most could not.
When I got my 91' I thought it was really special, but now not as much so. It seems that everyone wants something that no one else can get, and really not interested in other attributes, if that makes sense. You can read the forums how a neglected 90 zr-1 is bought and chopped for parts, and often recommended to do so, instead of restore it. Really, what is so special about the 93 CE and 94 and 95 cars? There were not as many made, so once again you have the supply and demand thing. Maybe I am just talking out my butt, but if someone advertised a 63' that was ratted out for $7k and needed a restoration the line would be around the block to buy it. The 63' from what i heard was really shoddy built, you couldn't see out the rear window, the hubcaps were made from 13 different parts, it had small goofy design problems, by todays standards is slow, but everyone would jump at a chance to get one because everyone else wants one.
I always see 'whats it worth' and 'what will future values be' threads about the zr-1's. Until these cars stop getting bought and chopped for parts and actually get restored, you will never see the values and desirability go up. I think the excitement of these cars is long gone except for a few enthusiasts that are on these forums. I was the same way initially: I had 20k to spend on a corvette that was unique, and the zr-1 was it. Everything else out there with a corvette emblem was too new, too common, or too expensive. I love the car and do not plan on selling it, but I think the supply is greater than the demand.
When I got my 91' I thought it was really special, but now not as much so. It seems that everyone wants something that no one else can get, and really not interested in other attributes, if that makes sense. You can read the forums how a neglected 90 zr-1 is bought and chopped for parts, and often recommended to do so, instead of restore it. Really, what is so special about the 93 CE and 94 and 95 cars? There were not as many made, so once again you have the supply and demand thing. Maybe I am just talking out my butt, but if someone advertised a 63' that was ratted out for $7k and needed a restoration the line would be around the block to buy it. The 63' from what i heard was really shoddy built, you couldn't see out the rear window, the hubcaps were made from 13 different parts, it had small goofy design problems, by todays standards is slow, but everyone would jump at a chance to get one because everyone else wants one.
I always see 'whats it worth' and 'what will future values be' threads about the zr-1's. Until these cars stop getting bought and chopped for parts and actually get restored, you will never see the values and desirability go up. I think the excitement of these cars is long gone except for a few enthusiasts that are on these forums. I was the same way initially: I had 20k to spend on a corvette that was unique, and the zr-1 was it. Everything else out there with a corvette emblem was too new, too common, or too expensive. I love the car and do not plan on selling it, but I think the supply is greater than the demand.
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IDK but I really don't think the price is going to jump soon on our ZR-1's
I love my Z, but I drive it so I don't worry about its future value, but that's just me
#11
Racer
I DO feel as though it's bottomed out though. I'm confident that even driving it I could get more for my 92 LT1 now than I paid for it a few years ago. I'm not sure i could break even on my 88 4+3, but I think it's close. I didn't buy them to make money though, I bought them for the grin on my face every time my wife and I go someplace in them.
I totally agree with you Gary. My wife and I met you at Bloomington Gold this year towards the end of Saturday. You have a beautiful car and it is great that you drive it! I am still hunting for my Z, but driving it is what we will do with it and drive it proudly. Hope to run into you again when we have it!