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Old 09-11-2006, 04:11 PM
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Default A&A Vortech or ECS Novi????

are they about the same quality? have any of you guys had both kits?

i have a vortech kit on my gto.. and i have had 0 belt problems!! and have had no other problems with the kit. so i am pretty happy with it.

it seems like most of the blower kits for a handfull of cars have belt issues..

how are the a&a and ecs kits> ? do they throw belts? pour out the info on these 2 kits

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Old 09-11-2006, 04:52 PM
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Although both kits will get you the HP you are looking for, there is a VERY apparent difference between the 2.

I have personally seen them side by side. Not only on the car, but on a shop table.
The ECS kit is BY FAR a better thought out kit. The materials used are better, the idlers are higher quality, the radiator assembly is considerably better, and the overall kit has a higher quality of workmanship built into it. One was built for power, while the other one was built for the most possible profit..

Dollar for dollar you get considerably more for your money with the ECS kit.

As I said, they will BOTH get you the power, but only one gives you the most bang for the buck.

HTH...

BTW, The belt issues have been pretty much eliminated with either of these kits..
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i have the ecs paxton, thats the way to go imho
Old 09-11-2006, 05:00 PM
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I'm sure either kit would reach the 500-550 hp level with ease, however the ECS kit offers much greater upgradeability. Pulley it down and you'll run circles around that wimpy Vortech (standard size).
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Don't forget that the new design for the A&A kit does not require radiator relocation and has more space between the intercooler and the AC condenser.

I say better contact both companies & let them know what you exactly want.
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Naturally, we all know how race shops like to recommend a competitors product.
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Originally Posted by AMERICAN_HP
Although both kits will get you the HP you are looking for, there is a VERY apparent difference between the 2.

I have personally seen them side by side. Not only on the car, but on a shop table.
The ECS kit is BY FAR a better thought out kit. The materials used are better, the idlers are higher quality, the radiator assembly is considerably better, and the overall kit has a higher quality of workmanship built into it. One was built for power, while the other one was built for the most possible profit..

Dollar for dollar you get considerably more for your money with the ECS kit.

As I said, they will BOTH get you the power, but only one gives you the most bang for the buck.

HTH...

BTW, The belt issues have been pretty much eliminated with either of these kits..
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Originally Posted by Corvette4ever
Don't forget that the new design for the A&A kit does not require radiator relocation and has more space between the intercooler and the AC condenser.

I say better contact both companies & let them know what you exactly want.
But what does that tell you......

One kit goes through MULTIPLE versions (All of which are COSTLY upgrades to the end user)

The other kit is the same tried and true unit its ALWAYS been.

I would rather spend a few hundred more in the beginning, than have to shell out 400-500 bucks everytime the shop makes a "So Called" improvement.
I want the kit thats "The Best" from the beginning.
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Originally Posted by AMERICAN_HP
But what does that tell you......

One kit goes through MULTIPLE versions (All of which are COSTLY upgrades to the end user)

The other kit is the same tried and true unit its ALWAYS been.

I would rather spend a few hundred more in the beginning, than have to shell out 400-500 bucks everytime the shop makes a "So Called" improvement.
I want the kit thats "The Best" from the beginning.
I’m glad you said that. I was feeling that way about A&A for months after reading all the posts here. It seems that A&A does most of their research and development on customer’s cars. Personally, I am going with the new Procharger system with 4.5” dual intercoolers. I know it won’t make the power that the ECS system will, but here in Las Vegas, one will have much less cooling problems without a big intercooler right in front of the radiator.

Clayton from Las Vegas
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Originally Posted by AMERICAN_HP
One kit goes through MULTIPLE versions (All of which are COSTLY upgrades to the end user)
ECS has been making changes to their kits for years. How you fault a vendor for improving their product over time?
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thanks for the info guys! i looked for a price on the ecs website for the novi kit.. but didnt see one..

do you guys know what it costs?
Old 09-11-2006, 07:28 PM
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Think its $6499(thats what it was when I got it)...that includes the paxton kit, huge intercooler, new lower radiator cradle, belt, spark plugs, fuel pump, Racetronix hot wire kit, Bosch BOV, 160deg thermostat, 60lb injectors
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I didn't know Vortech make a kit for the G6's?
Old 09-11-2006, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
ECS has been making changes to their kits for years. How you fault a vendor for improving their product over time?
Subtle revisions and 400-500 dollar upgrades are a little different.

I have yet to EVER see ECS come onto this forum and start charging for a bunch of upgrades.
Every time you turn around you see a "New" bracket for a couple of hundred bucks OR a "New" way to route an I/C for another couple hundred bucks.

There are guys on this forum that have received their kits only to be told a few days later that theres an upgraded version that will cost even more money. Had they just waited a few days they would have gotten it at no additional charge.

How pi$$ed off would you be if you spent almost 6 grand and a week later get told that its gonna cost you 500 MORE dollars cause you weren't informed that there was an updated version that "Just" came out??????
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Both systems are good, I think both companies are very reputable......I can tell you that I have purchased parts from both Andy @ A&A and Doug/Chris @ ECS and both Companys have stand behind their products 100%...............
Lets not start a war between ECS and A&A here...................

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Originally Posted by mikes99corvette
Both systems are good, I think both companies are very reputable......I can tell you that I have purchased parts from both Andy @ A&A and Doug/Chris @ ECS and both Companys have stand behind their products 100%...............
Lets not start a war between ECS and A&A here...................
I have also purchased parts from both Vendors and they have both been top notch vendors. The new Paxton unit is much bigger than the standard Vortech setup and for lots of uses that only want 450-550 rwhp this is the way to go. If you want the Sick HP levels than the Paxton or the upgraded Vortech head units are fine. I for one have not had any issues with my setup
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Originally Posted by mikes99corvette
Lets not start a war between ECS and A&A here...................
I think between Andy and ourselves we have brought C5/C6 supercharging to a higher level. You cant go wrong with either kit.
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Originally Posted by Chris@East Coast Supercharging
I think between Andy and ourselves we have brought C5/C6 supercharging to a higher level. You cant go wrong with either kit.
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