Drag wheels on a budget
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I am TTTing this thread because there is some good info and racing season is just around the corner
I think I have had every combination mentioned on my car with the exception of the modified front and donuts.
I am currently running Bogarts with 15" fronts with drag brakes (about 100 pounds lighter than stock brakes with CCW fronts) with 16" rears
I think I have had every combination mentioned on my car with the exception of the modified front and donuts.
I am currently running Bogarts with 15" fronts with drag brakes (about 100 pounds lighter than stock brakes with CCW fronts) with 16" rears
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I was just pondering this myself when I stumbled across this thread. I was personally thinking of collecting some 17x8.5 thin spokes, having a pair narrowed, and using a MT E.T. Drag Radial on the rears (275/40-17) and whatever size for the fronts. No clearance issues, looks like stock, just wondering if anyone has had thin spokes narrowed?
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I was thinking hard about what to do for my set up. I was running Mickey Thompson 275 40 17 mounted on my front Z06 wheels and was getting great traction at the strip. Even with my new blower set up the tires where still holding. As every hp junkie I was looking for more. Read allot on about different set ups and was also trying to stay on a budget. I wanted the CCW drag pack but was trying to save some money. I also looked into GTO fronts to go with my current set up. I read this and I made up my mind.
Enough said. Anway just found a set of CCW off season for $1500 shipped. Selling my old drag radials and I am done.
Drag racing and Budget really should not be used in the same sentence. I would just bite the bullet and get a set of CCW's
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This is the combination we frequently use here on our customers' drag cars and this particular Corvette was built here for 3-time NHRA Pro Stock Drag Racing Champion- Darryll Alderman.
- CCW light weight front/rear wheels
- Hoosier 28x10x16 C07 rear drag slicks (very light weight tire carcass compared to 11"+ wider tires)
- M&H Racemaster 4.5x26x17 front tires (also very light weight tire carcass compared to 6"+ wider tires)
*Slight machining needed on rear spindle uprights to accept rear wheels, 12 psi. rear cold/45 psi. front cold, 4-wheel alignment done w/ dynamically loaded chassis to simulate launch stance, QA1, Poly, no sway bars, 4-corner shock adjustment offsets, stock brakes & the entire combination is *very* light weight.
This TT car runs high 9's all day in the heat w/ high 1.3's-1.4 shorts everytime and approx. 1-2 tire revolutions at launch for best 1.3-ish short. 130+ MPH trap speeds are rock stable at big end to where the ride is quite boring once past half-track while you're sitting there with nothing to do..
*VERY* effective, but definately not "cheap", but as Chris said- "cheap" and drag racing these high powered cars shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
Our $.02.
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Phil
- CCW light weight front/rear wheels
- Hoosier 28x10x16 C07 rear drag slicks (very light weight tire carcass compared to 11"+ wider tires)
- M&H Racemaster 4.5x26x17 front tires (also very light weight tire carcass compared to 6"+ wider tires)
*Slight machining needed on rear spindle uprights to accept rear wheels, 12 psi. rear cold/45 psi. front cold, 4-wheel alignment done w/ dynamically loaded chassis to simulate launch stance, QA1, Poly, no sway bars, 4-corner shock adjustment offsets, stock brakes & the entire combination is *very* light weight.
This TT car runs high 9's all day in the heat w/ high 1.3's-1.4 shorts everytime and approx. 1-2 tire revolutions at launch for best 1.3-ish short. 130+ MPH trap speeds are rock stable at big end to where the ride is quite boring once past half-track while you're sitting there with nothing to do..
*VERY* effective, but definately not "cheap", but as Chris said- "cheap" and drag racing these high powered cars shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
Our $.02.
Regards,
Phil
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Wheel is plenty strong enough to run straightline bursts.
Last edited by PeteZ06; 02-11-2008 at 09:57 AM.
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here is a viable, inexpensive way of duplicating what we make with the drag pack
start with a pair of 16x9.5 c4 rears (84-87) to use as rears
(they will require a little more clearence over the ball joint cap than our wheels, but not insurmountable)
up front you could use the gto spare with m&h 26x5's
or
have a pair of the c4 16's (either the 8.5 or the 9.5's, but the 9.5 are less common and should be saved for other guys who will need rears)
cut down to 4-5" wide and then use the forestone or the m&h 16" bias skinnie
john
start with a pair of 16x9.5 c4 rears (84-87) to use as rears
(they will require a little more clearence over the ball joint cap than our wheels, but not insurmountable)
up front you could use the gto spare with m&h 26x5's
or
have a pair of the c4 16's (either the 8.5 or the 9.5's, but the 9.5 are less common and should be saved for other guys who will need rears)
cut down to 4-5" wide and then use the forestone or the m&h 16" bias skinnie
john
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here is a viable, inexpensive way of duplicating what we make with the drag pack
start with a pair of 16x9.5 c4 rears (84-87) to use as rears
(they will require a little more clearence over the ball joint cap than our wheels, but not insurmountable)
up front you could use the gto spare with m&h 26x5's
or
have a pair of the c4 16's (either the 8.5 or the 9.5's, but the 9.5 are less common and should be saved for other guys who will need rears)
cut down to 4-5" wide and then use the forestone or the m&h 16" bias skinnie
john
start with a pair of 16x9.5 c4 rears (84-87) to use as rears
(they will require a little more clearence over the ball joint cap than our wheels, but not insurmountable)
up front you could use the gto spare with m&h 26x5's
or
have a pair of the c4 16's (either the 8.5 or the 9.5's, but the 9.5 are less common and should be saved for other guys who will need rears)
cut down to 4-5" wide and then use the forestone or the m&h 16" bias skinnie
john
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Another option that is less expensive, but safe. Aftermarket Grand Sport Wheels 17X11. $110.00 a wheel and use the Mickey Thompson 315-35-17 Drag Radials. A racing buddy did this last year and does real well. The wheels are a little heavier than GM wheels, but about 1/3 the price. Keep your stock wheels up front and drive to the track in dry weather, let some air out and run some good numbers.
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Another option that is less expensive, but safe. Aftermarket Grand Sport Wheels 17X11. $110.00 a wheel and use the Mickey Thompson 315-35-17 Drag Radials. A racing buddy did this last year and does real well. The wheels are a little heavier than GM wheels, but about 1/3 the price. Keep your stock wheels up front and drive to the track in dry weather, let some air out and run some good numbers.
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Another option that is less expensive, but safe. Aftermarket Grand Sport Wheels 17X11. $110.00 a wheel and use the Mickey Thompson 315-35-17 Drag Radials. A racing buddy did this last year and does real well. The wheels are a little heavier than GM wheels, but about 1/3 the price. Keep your stock wheels up front and drive to the track in dry weather, let some air out and run some good numbers.
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Another option that is less expensive, but safe. Aftermarket Grand Sport Wheels 17X11. $110.00 a wheel and use the Mickey Thompson 315-35-17 Drag Radials. A racing buddy did this last year and does real well. The wheels are a little heavier than GM wheels, but about 1/3 the price. Keep your stock wheels up front and drive to the track in dry weather, let some air out and run some good numbers.
How was the clearance on your buddies car with the 315's and the 17x11 wheel on the rear?
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That's not a bad idea. Then just get some ZR1 or Grand Sport fronts and have them narrowed. Would be heavier than a Drag Pack obviously, but very cost effective and look dang good too I'm sure.
How was the clearance on your buddies car with the 315's and the 17x11 wheel on the rear?
How was the clearance on your buddies car with the 315's and the 17x11 wheel on the rear?
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Yes. Looks a little ridiculous, but works. There's a thread in C5 section somewhere with a pic. They're tucked WAY in to the point of looking goofy, but they do the job.