Belt tensioner bending/ breaking problem with newer A&A kit with an YSi
#1
Safety Car
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Belt tensioner bending/ breaking problem with newer A&A kit with an YSi
I have been fighting an issue with the spring loaded tension that is mounted in the A&A bracket. I’m currently on my 4th tensioner and this one is looking bent also. Basically, I have been having the belt slip (3.0 pulley). I would tighten the belt until I stopped seeing slip, making sure I did not max the tensioner. I am leaving the tensioner in between the 2 adjustment marks, close to the ¾ area.
My first tensioner snapped off at the arm. I called A&A and was told that they have not had this issue before and offered to have me send in the bracket to them to make sure there wasn’t an issue with it (I didn’t send it). I tried a second tensioner and it bent/ cracked.
I changed to a longer belt so I would get better wrap on the SC pulley and could hopefully leave the tensioner a little looser. I bought a different brand tensioner and it bent also.
Next I used a laser pulley aligner and adjusted a few pulleys slightly and went to an even longer belt and now that tensioner looks bent.
Anyone have these issues?
Count is 4 tensioners and 4 belts……..
My first tensioner snapped off at the arm. I called A&A and was told that they have not had this issue before and offered to have me send in the bracket to them to make sure there wasn’t an issue with it (I didn’t send it). I tried a second tensioner and it bent/ cracked.
I changed to a longer belt so I would get better wrap on the SC pulley and could hopefully leave the tensioner a little looser. I bought a different brand tensioner and it bent also.
Next I used a laser pulley aligner and adjusted a few pulleys slightly and went to an even longer belt and now that tensioner looks bent.
Anyone have these issues?
Count is 4 tensioners and 4 belts……..
#2
Le Mans Master
i broke the tensioner on my gen III A&A bracket!! 8 rib i was running my D1 that was the last straw with my old setup so i went with with this YSI I'm waiting to have installed now im worried what will go on now with the new 8 rib bracket
Last edited by a/c man; 05-30-2010 at 12:59 AM.
#3
Racer
Hey Mike I am running the same belt as I had on with a 3.125 pully and I am now running a 3.00 as well and I dont even look at the tensioner to see where it is.. I just tighten the living crap out of it and the manually adjusted pully is almost touching the head unit pully.. I am not getting any slip and have been using the same bracket for a year now..
Sorry I dont have any advise but I have never had that happen to me..
Sorry I dont have any advise but I have never had that happen to me..
#5
Safety Car
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That is the direction I am thinking about going. I'm going to give the flip drive a shot and am seriously thinking about placing a fixed idler in the location of the tensioner. If all that belt is turning is the SC, I wonder if the tensioner is even needed.
Another option would be to pull the tensioner out and run without anything in its place. I would loose some belt wrap on the crank but with the flip drive mounting, running the belt straight down to the balancer from the water pump, I would gain back any losses. I could reall tighten down the belt then. Thoughts
#6
Safety Car
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With my last SC I would tighten the belt down as much as I physically could and never had an issue. It was a little S Trim though.
#8
Le Mans Master
never had a problem with the P1SC on the GEN III A&A bracket only when I went D1SC things went bad 6 belts i tensioner
I think we could try a fixed tensioner like kaltec it think thats the name? or weld up that stock one to make it thicker? fill the ribs in and grind it smooth there has to be a stronger way!!
I think we could try a fixed tensioner like kaltec it think thats the name? or weld up that stock one to make it thicker? fill the ribs in and grind it smooth there has to be a stronger way!!
#9
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#11
Burning Brakes
Yea, this is what I was talking about when we talked a while back.
Let us know how this new tensioner works. I wanted one but Arun said there was no need.
In other words, he said I didn't have enough power to warrant the upgrade.
He hurt me, deep.
#12
Safety Car
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I'll just be happy when all the "little issues" go away and I can drive the car without any worrys.....
#13
I actually have updated this tensioner even further to be more bulletproof than the one shown in the pics below.
If you ship me your bracket I can install it and ship it back to you next day.
If you want to step it up even more I like to go straight to 10 rib with the HD pulley's as well. I use HD *** bearings-no off shore crap. I back them for life as well and there 100% serviceable.
Email me at abcocustom@bellnet.ca or give me a shout at 519-747-9794.
If you ship me your bracket I can install it and ship it back to you next day.
If you want to step it up even more I like to go straight to 10 rib with the HD pulley's as well. I use HD *** bearings-no off shore crap. I back them for life as well and there 100% serviceable.
Email me at abcocustom@bellnet.ca or give me a shout at 519-747-9794.
Last edited by Arun@ChampionMotors; 05-30-2010 at 02:20 PM.
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#15
Le Mans Master
Nice piece you made there Arun, that HD tensioner plus flip drive equals boost heaven
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#18
Le Mans Master
Good to see you guys that saved $1000. from buying the A&A kit vs. the ECS kit are getting things all worked out with the bigger head unit$ and HD spring tensioner$.
#19
Safety Car
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$1000 is a drop inthe bucket compared to the amount I've spent in mods
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I have run both ECS and A&A stuff on my car, both are great companies to deal with and I've had issues crop up with the products from both. When you get into the high HP builds, stuff isn't going to work 100% all the time. No reason to throw stones, I'm glad that they are both there.
$1000 is a drop inthe bucket compared to the amount I've spent in mods
$1000 is a drop inthe bucket compared to the amount I've spent in mods