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Belt tensioner bending/ breaking problem with newer A&A kit with an YSi

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Old 05-30-2010, 12:00 AM
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Default Belt tensioner bending/ breaking problem with newer A&A kit with an YSi

I have been fighting an issue with the spring loaded tension that is mounted in the A&A bracket. I’m currently on my 4th tensioner and this one is looking bent also. Basically, I have been having the belt slip (3.0 pulley). I would tighten the belt until I stopped seeing slip, making sure I did not max the tensioner. I am leaving the tensioner in between the 2 adjustment marks, close to the ¾ area.

My first tensioner snapped off at the arm. I called A&A and was told that they have not had this issue before and offered to have me send in the bracket to them to make sure there wasn’t an issue with it (I didn’t send it). I tried a second tensioner and it bent/ cracked.

I changed to a longer belt so I would get better wrap on the SC pulley and could hopefully leave the tensioner a little looser. I bought a different brand tensioner and it bent also.

Next I used a laser pulley aligner and adjusted a few pulleys slightly and went to an even longer belt and now that tensioner looks bent.

Anyone have these issues?

Count is 4 tensioners and 4 belts……..
Old 05-30-2010, 12:51 AM
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i broke the tensioner on my gen III A&A bracket!! 8 rib i was running my D1 that was the last straw with my old setup so i went with with this YSI I'm waiting to have installed now im worried what will go on now with the new 8 rib bracket


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Old 05-30-2010, 12:54 AM
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Hey Mike I am running the same belt as I had on with a 3.125 pully and I am now running a 3.00 as well and I dont even look at the tensioner to see where it is.. I just tighten the living crap out of it and the manually adjusted pully is almost touching the head unit pully.. I am not getting any slip and have been using the same bracket for a year now..

Sorry I dont have any advise but I have never had that happen to me..
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Get in contact with Arun@Champions, he has a HD tensioner that replaces the one A&A uses and looks to be a really stout unit.
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Originally Posted by bullitt4110
Get in contact with Arun@Champions, he has a HD tensioner that replaces the one A&A uses and looks to be a really stout unit.
I talked to him a few weeks back to see what he had, no heavy duty tensioner. From what I understood about what he said, a fixed idler instead of the spring tensioner might be an option along with a flip drive.

That is the direction I am thinking about going. I'm going to give the flip drive a shot and am seriously thinking about placing a fixed idler in the location of the tensioner. If all that belt is turning is the SC, I wonder if the tensioner is even needed.

Another option would be to pull the tensioner out and run without anything in its place. I would loose some belt wrap on the crank but with the flip drive mounting, running the belt straight down to the balancer from the water pump, I would gain back any losses. I could reall tighten down the belt then. Thoughts


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Originally Posted by a/c man
i broke the tensioner on my gen III A&A bracket!! 8 rib i was running my D1 that was the last straw with my old setup so i went with with this YSI I'm waiting to have installed now im worried what will go on now with the new 8 rib bracket
Nice to know that I'm not the only one out there who has had this happen.

With my last SC I would tighten the belt down as much as I physically could and never had an issue. It was a little S Trim though.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...-brackets.html
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never had a problem with the P1SC on the GEN III A&A bracket only when I went D1SC things went bad 6 belts i tensioner

I think we could try a fixed tensioner like kaltec it think thats the name? or weld up that stock one to make it thicker? fill the ribs in and grind it smooth there has to be a stronger way!!
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Looks like I need to call Arun again, thanks for the help.
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Originally Posted by Mike04
Looks like I need to call Arun again, thanks for the help.
thanks BULLITT4110
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Mike,
Yea, this is what I was talking about when we talked a while back.
Let us know how this new tensioner works. I wanted one but Arun said there was no need.
In other words, he said I didn't have enough power to warrant the upgrade.
He hurt me, deep.
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Originally Posted by TRIZ
Mike,
Yea, this is what I was talking about when we talked a while back.
Let us know how this new tensioner works. I wanted one but Arun said there was no need.
In other words, he said I didn't have enough power to warrant the upgrade.
He hurt me, deep.
Hopefully he doesn't think that about power my little YSi and 427 will make. Maybe I should up the boost to 20 lbs for good measure

I'll just be happy when all the "little issues" go away and I can drive the car without any worrys.....
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I actually have updated this tensioner even further to be more bulletproof than the one shown in the pics below.





If you ship me your bracket I can install it and ship it back to you next day.

If you want to step it up even more I like to go straight to 10 rib with the HD pulley's as well. I use HD *** bearings-no off shore crap. I back them for life as well and there 100% serviceable.





Email me at abcocustom@bellnet.ca or give me a shout at 519-747-9794.

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Originally Posted by Arun@ChampionMotors
If you want to step it up even more I like to go straight to 10 rib with the HD pulley's as well. I use HD *** bearings-no off shore crap. I back them for life as well and there 100% serviceable.
Thanks Arun, I'll shoot you an email.
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Nice piece you made there Arun, that HD tensioner plus flip drive equals boost heaven
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Originally Posted by Brandon619
Nice piece you made there Arun, that HD tensioner plus flip drive equals boost heaven
Thanks bro-I hear your hauling, 900 rwhp@15psi on pump and no meth is sick bro!

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Originally Posted by Mike04
Looks like I need to call Arun again, thanks for the help.
Originally Posted by a/c man
thanks BULLITT4110
No problem

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Good to see you guys that saved $1000. from buying the A&A kit vs. the ECS kit are getting things all worked out with the bigger head unit$ and HD spring tensioner$.
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Originally Posted by 4DRUSH
Good to see you guys that saved $1000. from buying the A&A kit vs. the ECS kit are getting things all worked out with the bigger head unit$ and HD spring tensioner$.
I have run both ECS and A&A stuff on my car, both are great companies to deal with and I've had issues crop up with the products from both. When you get into the high HP builds, stuff isn't going to work 100% all the time. No reason to throw stones, I'm glad that they are both there.

$1000 is a drop inthe bucket compared to the amount I've spent in mods
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Originally Posted by Mike04
I have run both ECS and A&A stuff on my car, both are great companies to deal with and I've had issues crop up with the products from both. When you get into the high HP builds, stuff isn't going to work 100% all the time. No reason to throw stones, I'm glad that they are both there.

$1000 is a drop inthe bucket compared to the amount I've spent in mods
on the cost on the mods.Seems like once you start you have 20,k plus into whatever befor you stop. Then parts start doing stuff like this with 800 to 1,k rwhp.


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