Twin Disc Clutch Chatter
#21
Racer
Thread Starter
I cannot live with the vibration. Although not excessive, I can feel it. I agree, that putting some miles on it is a good idea. However, some guys are putting thousands of miles on their clutch before seeing any improvement. Heck, I only drive around 5,000 miles a year. So, this clutch will be 1 year old before I see the clutch I expected. I HATE driving the car now and can't imagine dealing with this a year.
Lot's to consider.
Thanks
Lot's to consider.
Thanks
#22
Burning Brakes
I cannot live with the vibration. Although not excessive, I can feel it. I agree, that putting some miles on it is a good idea. However, some guys are putting thousands of miles on their clutch before seeing any improvement. Heck, I only drive around 5,000 miles a year. So, this clutch will be 1 year old before I see the clutch I expected. I HATE driving the car now and can't imagine dealing with this a year.
Lot's to consider.
Thanks
Lot's to consider.
Thanks
#23
Supporting Vendor
I want to mention the definition of breaking in a clutch because of how many times I've had this discussion and they didn't really know.
Break-in time or mileage for a clutch is based on engagement and disengagement as opposed to the number of revolutions it's been through. You could drive 5000 miles and not break in a clutch and you could drive 50.
5000 on a long trip and you could still not have it broken in.
50 in horrible stop and go traffic and it would probably be fully bedded.
Break-in time or mileage for a clutch is based on engagement and disengagement as opposed to the number of revolutions it's been through. You could drive 5000 miles and not break in a clutch and you could drive 50.
5000 on a long trip and you could still not have it broken in.
50 in horrible stop and go traffic and it would probably be fully bedded.
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#24
Melting Slicks
I want to mention the definition of breaking in a clutch because of how many times I've had this discussion and they didn't really know.
Break-in time or mileage for a clutch is based on engagement and disengagement as opposed to the number of revolutions it's been through. You could drive 5000 miles and not break in a clutch and you could drive 50.
5000 on a long trip and you could still not have it broken in.
50 in horrible stop and go traffic and it would probably be fully bedded.
Break-in time or mileage for a clutch is based on engagement and disengagement as opposed to the number of revolutions it's been through. You could drive 5000 miles and not break in a clutch and you could drive 50.
5000 on a long trip and you could still not have it broken in.
50 in horrible stop and go traffic and it would probably be fully bedded.
Wouldnt say Ive ever paid any attention to it anyway. I just drive it or race it.
Have raced the next day after fitting a clutch and never had issues lol
#25
ISIS SUCKS FAT CHOAD
Clutch break in procedures. Get in start car, bring to operating temp. Do a relatively hard launch. Drive around town for 20 minutes. Do another relatively hard launch. Drive around for 20 more minutes. Do another relatively hard launch. Drive around for 20 more minutes. Do a hard launch. Drive around for 20 minutes. Clutch broke in...drive it like ya stole it!!
#26
Supporting Vendor
Clutch break in procedures. Get in start car, bring to operating temp. Do a relatively hard launch. Drive around town for 20 minutes. Do another relatively hard launch. Drive around for 20 more minutes. Do another relatively hard launch. Drive around for 20 more minutes. Do a hard launch. Drive around for 20 minutes. Clutch broke in...drive it like ya stole it!!
#27
Burning Brakes
Clutch break in procedures. Get in start car, bring to operating temp. Do a relatively hard launch. Drive around town for 20 minutes. Do another relatively hard launch. Drive around for 20 more minutes. Do another relatively hard launch. Drive around for 20 more minutes. Do a hard launch. Drive around for 20 minutes. Clutch broke in...drive it like ya stole it!!
#28
Racer
Thread Starter
It has been babied, lots of stop and go, no hard launches, some WOT pulls in 3rd and 4th. No slipping while high revving. Perfect for 5 miles then the chatter started. I got it out tonight and it looks great. No glazing, no oil contamination, nothing. Monster said take it easy for the first 500 and I have taken it easy so far. I am having the balance checked tomorrow against my stock assembly. If I can get rid of the vibration I feel a little better about maybe working through the chatter. My concern is it may never stop chattering, and that is not going to work.
#30
Burning Brakes
It has been babied, lots of stop and go, no hard launches, some WOT pulls in 3rd and 4th. No slipping while high revving. Perfect for 5 miles then the chatter started. I got it out tonight and it looks great. No glazing, no oil contamination, nothing. Monster said take it easy for the first 500 and I have taken it easy so far. I am having the balance checked tomorrow against my stock assembly. If I can get rid of the vibration I feel a little better about maybe working through the chatter. My concern is it may never stop chattering, and that is not going to work.
Put that sucker up for sale on flea bay and get your self a clutch that has proven it self, mantic, DYAD, A couple to start with
#31
Burning Brakes
randyfi : what was the outcome of your clutch problem ?
My monster twin has been out once already, sent back,
re-installed, now ready too come out again.
slipping , and engages at very end.
not happy, I`m done with monster.
My monster twin has been out once already, sent back,
re-installed, now ready too come out again.
slipping , and engages at very end.
not happy, I`m done with monster.
#32
Racer
Thread Starter
I talked with Steve at Monster and he agreed to replace it. I just finished (2 weeks ago) the installation of a LT1-S. Although it is not broken in yet, I am very happy with it so far. Stock like engagement, no chatter, no vibration. I must say, Steve really stepped up and did the right thing for me. If you have not, I would call him direct and express your concern.
#33
Former Vendor
I talked with Steve at Monster and he agreed to replace it. I just finished (2 weeks ago) the installation of a LT1-S. Although it is not broken in yet, I am very happy with it so far. Stock like engagement, no chatter, no vibration. I must say, Steve really stepped up and did the right thing for me. If you have not, I would call him direct and express your concern.
#34
Racer
Thread Starter
Yea Steve, I really like it so far, and appreciate you taking care of it.
#35
Former Vendor
#36
Former Vendor
You can shoot a message directly to me at Steve@monsterclutches.com or you can call me at 817-750-2000. I need your name so I can, at the very least, research your setup and previous issues.
#37
Burning Brakes
This is an older thread, and looks like I said something positive about the DYAD.. I retract all of that now First trip and pass to the track, it ate itself on the launch and wouldn't fully disengage after that again. ZERO support from Centerforce.
I have a LT1-R in my car now from Monster, one of their hybrids using the C7 LT1 pressure plate and floater with a custom flywheel and sintered iron discs. It was a grabby B**** the first 50 miles, but then started smoothing out. Actually can't believe it hasn't chattered on me once. Pedal feels stock, obviously since it's a stock pressure plate. Still have yet to get to the track, but good weather is starting to roll in down here, so we'll see how it does. It does fully release for me, and let's me shift quickly which is nice. The DYAD wouldn't
I have a LT1-R in my car now from Monster, one of their hybrids using the C7 LT1 pressure plate and floater with a custom flywheel and sintered iron discs. It was a grabby B**** the first 50 miles, but then started smoothing out. Actually can't believe it hasn't chattered on me once. Pedal feels stock, obviously since it's a stock pressure plate. Still have yet to get to the track, but good weather is starting to roll in down here, so we'll see how it does. It does fully release for me, and let's me shift quickly which is nice. The DYAD wouldn't
#39
Former Vendor
This is an older thread, and looks like I said something positive about the DYAD.. I retract all of that now First trip and pass to the track, it ate itself on the launch and wouldn't fully disengage after that again. ZERO support from Centerforce.
I have a LT1-R in my car now from Monster, one of their hybrids using the C7 LT1 pressure plate and floater with a custom flywheel and sintered iron discs. It was a grabby B**** the first 50 miles, but then started smoothing out. Actually can't believe it hasn't chattered on me once. Pedal feels stock, obviously since it's a stock pressure plate. Still have yet to get to the track, but good weather is starting to roll in down here, so we'll see how it does. It does fully release for me, and let's me shift quickly which is nice. The DYAD wouldn't
I have a LT1-R in my car now from Monster, one of their hybrids using the C7 LT1 pressure plate and floater with a custom flywheel and sintered iron discs. It was a grabby B**** the first 50 miles, but then started smoothing out. Actually can't believe it hasn't chattered on me once. Pedal feels stock, obviously since it's a stock pressure plate. Still have yet to get to the track, but good weather is starting to roll in down here, so we'll see how it does. It does fully release for me, and let's me shift quickly which is nice. The DYAD wouldn't
Not to mention the newer C7 SAC setup is far and above improved over the older stuff. It's night and day internally.
#40
Drifting
Whats the most power/torque you have seen put through the ceramic version of the LT1? I really like how thick the floater is and if the SAC holds up that's a huge plus. I know you guys have a R in the blue turbo camaro so it's really getting a good workout. Might have to bug Mike at the ws6 store about getting me one when the RXT is done.