What is feeding the PS tank siphon? I looked..
#1
Burning Brakes
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What is feeding the PS tank siphon? I looked..
Haven't seen anyone post this before. If it has been, then I guess it's been posted twice now .
I've had a pretty good break from my junk, but I got rid of my bridge line across the tanks and put the siphon pump back in the PS tank so that I didn't have to drain or open a fuel line every time I drop the driveline .
At first, I tried to keep the factory line on one of the pumps since it has the Y-fitting in line to feed the PS "pump". I fought with it for a while, and couldn't get my lines to run the way I wanted. Sooooo I decided to cut it up in frustration and see if it was just an orifice or what. Turns out, that's all it is. There is a tiny hole allowing a very small pressure leak to feed the siphon. Mine actually had a crack to one side of the hole, so it's effective area was larger (though I never had issues when running factory pump a long time ago). I have a .045" diameter tig wire I tried to pass through it and it wouldn't go, so the orifice is smaller than that. Can't tell you the exact size.
Anyway, I use a couple stainless -6an fittings and just made my own orifice. There is also a check valve in the factory line to prevent backflow when the pumps shut off, so I used an earl's check valve to do the same. Seems to have worked for me, and no issues maintaining pressure. Actually didn't need to adjust my pressure regulator at all.
Here are some photos of the orifice in the factory line, and the one I made.
If this helps answer a question for someone making their own fuel and wants to gut the factory system but keep the siphon pump, then all the better.
I've had a pretty good break from my junk, but I got rid of my bridge line across the tanks and put the siphon pump back in the PS tank so that I didn't have to drain or open a fuel line every time I drop the driveline .
At first, I tried to keep the factory line on one of the pumps since it has the Y-fitting in line to feed the PS "pump". I fought with it for a while, and couldn't get my lines to run the way I wanted. Sooooo I decided to cut it up in frustration and see if it was just an orifice or what. Turns out, that's all it is. There is a tiny hole allowing a very small pressure leak to feed the siphon. Mine actually had a crack to one side of the hole, so it's effective area was larger (though I never had issues when running factory pump a long time ago). I have a .045" diameter tig wire I tried to pass through it and it wouldn't go, so the orifice is smaller than that. Can't tell you the exact size.
Anyway, I use a couple stainless -6an fittings and just made my own orifice. There is also a check valve in the factory line to prevent backflow when the pumps shut off, so I used an earl's check valve to do the same. Seems to have worked for me, and no issues maintaining pressure. Actually didn't need to adjust my pressure regulator at all.
Here are some photos of the orifice in the factory line, and the one I made.
If this helps answer a question for someone making their own fuel and wants to gut the factory system but keep the siphon pump, then all the better.
#2
Team Owner
That's pretty nice looking forward to some install pictures! If possible!
Nice job!
Thanks,Matt
Nice job!
Thanks,Matt
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#5
Burning Brakes
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Here are some pictures. Excuse the wiring still hanging around. These were before I anchored the lines and pulled the wiring out of the way. You get the idea though. I welded a separate -6an to the fuel hat, so the 2 pumps don't merge until the union on the filter. No restriction merging them together into a small line. Where the stock filter and lines were, there is just my ground wires and the feed/return for the siphon.
Thanks. The clamp is a Tweco 200amp I think.
Thanks. The clamp is a Tweco 200amp I think.
#6
Drifting
Cool, I wish I put more of my filter, tees, etc in that spot. I put it in the tunnel and I just have two relays about where yours are. I'm going to hate putting in a new fuel filter haha
#8
Drifting
I wanted to have my welding guy tig a fitting to that spot instead of using a bulkhead fitting, but we were worried about the heat messing up that electrical connectors seal.
#9
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
No problem
New electrical bulkheads can be had for $10 + shipping
This is where I got mine from
http://www.racetronix.biz/itemdesc.a...BCA-4W&eq=&Tp=
This is where I got mine from
http://www.racetronix.biz/itemdesc.a...BCA-4W&eq=&Tp=
#11
Team Owner
No problem
New electrical bulkheads can be had for $10 + shipping
This is where I got mine from
http://www.racetronix.biz/itemdesc.a...BCA-4W&eq=&Tp=
New electrical bulkheads can be had for $10 + shipping
This is where I got mine from
http://www.racetronix.biz/itemdesc.a...BCA-4W&eq=&Tp=
Thanks,Matt
#14
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I'm sure there are easier ways to route, but that's not why I created the thread. It was to share information on the orifice/siphon system.