Best blower kit for torque stock LS1?
12-11-2014, 11:49 AM
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What Chris said to you is that on a 100% stock A4 car running pump gas, we leave them around 500 rwhp, typically a little over but we like to under promise-over deliver. If you chose to go higher have at it! The kit is more then capable of doing so without purchasing anything else to do so.
We have been doing this long enough to know which cars have the most problems, and oddly enough it's not the high HP cars. It's the cars that want to max out pump gas and chose not to use meth.
I hope that helps.
12-11-2014, 01:12 PM
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Like I tell people all the time "HP is just about how much money you have and how much you want to spend... if you don't want to spend a ton... don't push it that hard.. play it safe"
People don't realize that a 500RWHP Vette is VERY fast and is about 600HP at the crank... the HP to weight ratio is AWESOME!
So who wants a blower?
We can supply them for up to 1 year with 0% financing
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12-11-2014, 03:38 PM
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You could easily make those numbers, just like we have a bunch of people running 9's on our base kit and a stock engine.
What Chris said to you is that on a 100% stock A4 car running pump gas, we leave them around 500 rwhp, typically a little over but we like to under promise-over deliver. If you chose to go higher have at it! The kit is more then capable of doing so without purchasing anything else to do so.
We have been doing this long enough to know which cars have the most problems, and oddly enough it's not the high HP cars. It's the cars that want to max out pump gas and chose not to use meth.
I hope that helps.
What Chris said to you is that on a 100% stock A4 car running pump gas, we leave them around 500 rwhp, typically a little over but we like to under promise-over deliver. If you chose to go higher have at it! The kit is more then capable of doing so without purchasing anything else to do so.
We have been doing this long enough to know which cars have the most problems, and oddly enough it's not the high HP cars. It's the cars that want to max out pump gas and chose not to use meth.
I hope that helps.
12-11-2014, 03:43 PM
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12-11-2014, 05:01 PM
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I am around 480rwhp on my stock LS1 with the A&A kit, and it is PLENTY for the street. I don't do any track racing, so this setup is fine.
12-11-2014, 05:45 PM
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Typically yes, but if you want to go to the track on radials and launch at 6k then probably not.
12-11-2014, 06:32 PM
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I can provide this valuable piece of info. The metal don't know. A YSi for example won't know who's bracket it is mounted too.
You can't go wrong with either kit in the end it boils down to how much you want to spend on head units. And other stuff. Some important some not as much.
If you are looking to make 800+ WTQ or more neither base kit will cut it.
This is not a matter of opinion.
with that said I do have both ECS and A&A blower kit components on my car. I'd be more than happy to answer questions if you wish.
You can't go wrong with either kit in the end it boils down to how much you want to spend on head units. And other stuff. Some important some not as much.
If you are looking to make 800+ WTQ or more neither base kit will cut it.
This is not a matter of opinion.
with that said I do have both ECS and A&A blower kit components on my car. I'd be more than happy to answer questions if you wish.
12-11-2014, 07:13 PM
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12-11-2014, 08:43 PM
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12-12-2014, 07:38 AM
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I drive to the strip so I can't do slicks. What has worked in the past at 543rwhp is Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials. I launch at around 2800 to 3k rpm. I had one or 2 incidents of wheel hop and had to back off but no other issues.
12-12-2014, 08:18 AM
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12-12-2014, 09:59 AM
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That is absolutely so true... everyone gets fixated on getting every RWHP out of their stock motor not knowing it will jeopardize the reliability of the motor.
Like I tell people all the time "HP is just about how much money you have and how much you want to spend... if you don't want to spend a ton... don't push it that hard.. play it safe"
Like I tell people all the time "HP is just about how much money you have and how much you want to spend... if you don't want to spend a ton... don't push it that hard.. play it safe"
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12-12-2014, 11:00 AM
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I agree alky injection is a good think. Keeping the IAT's well in check is one of the good things methanol does. Even with a great intercooler the IAT's can get crazy.
12-12-2014, 11:09 AM
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I am with you here Jay. Now for a street car with only hitting WOT & boost for a second are so, is one thing but the 1/4 track run is a diff ball game all together. Robert
12-12-2014, 11:37 AM
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I think what Doug was meaning (and by all means correct me if I'm wrong here) is that adding meth helps so much on longevity of the stock bottom end, that people running a little higher HP on stock blocks (with meth) end up being better off / more reliable than those that are running a little less HP and also NOT running meth..
Correct, making power is not necessarily about how much you spend. For instance look at Shawn's car running 9.16 and 1500 passes on it, there is very little money into that car compared to many, if not everyone else in his ET's league on here.
Here's the big secret, this one is a keeper so write it down.
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That car has never been ran without some or all 100 octane in the tank depending on the ET he is looking to run. Just because you did not record knock on a pass does not mean it is not slowly chipping away at the engine.
Fuel quality is as important as the crank shaft, do not skimp on it. Pump gas is getting worse by the year, yet we keep pushing on the engines harder and harder.
12-12-2014, 12:27 PM
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Correct, making power is not necessarily about how much you spend. For instance look at Shawn's car running 9.16 and 1500 passes on it, there is very little money into that car compared to many, if not everyone else in his ET's league on here.
Here's the big secret, this one is a keeper so write it down.
OCTANE
That car has never been ran without some or all 100 octane in the tank depending on the ET he is looking to run. Just because you did not record knock on a pass does not mean it is not slowly chipping away at the engine.
Fuel quality is as important as the crank shaft, do not skimp on it. Pump gas is getting worse by the year, yet we keep pushing on the engines harder and harder.
Here's the big secret, this one is a keeper so write it down.
OCTANE
That car has never been ran without some or all 100 octane in the tank depending on the ET he is looking to run. Just because you did not record knock on a pass does not mean it is not slowly chipping away at the engine.
Fuel quality is as important as the crank shaft, do not skimp on it. Pump gas is getting worse by the year, yet we keep pushing on the engines harder and harder.
What you inevitably end up with is an detonation limited engine when you start to tune it.
How do you tackle dept.? Lower comp. (lowers peak cylinder pressures), reduce timing (again effectively, lowers peak cylinder pressures) or stick some nice high octane fuel in it!
Also you have to remember that when you start to tune an engine you are throwing the accuracy of the stock knock system out. Most modern systems are design to pick up very specific frequencies and i believe some even look at specific crank angles to ensure dept. is detected. You stick a great big supercharge on there or a forged bottom end you you will change the harmonics of the engine and reduce the accuracy of the stock setup.
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12-12-2014, 12:36 PM
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Correct, making power is not necessarily about how much you spend. For instance look at Shawn's car running 9.16 and 1500 passes on it, there is very little money into that car compared to many, if not everyone else in his ET's league on here.
Here's the big secret, this one is a keeper so write it down.
OCTANE
That car has never been ran without some or all 100 octane in the tank depending on the ET he is looking to run. Just because you did not record knock on a pass does not mean it is not slowly chipping away at the engine.
Fuel quality is as important as the crank shaft, do not skimp on it. Pump gas is getting worse by the year, yet we keep pushing on the engines harder and harder.
Here's the big secret, this one is a keeper so write it down.
OCTANE
That car has never been ran without some or all 100 octane in the tank depending on the ET he is looking to run. Just because you did not record knock on a pass does not mean it is not slowly chipping away at the engine.
Fuel quality is as important as the crank shaft, do not skimp on it. Pump gas is getting worse by the year, yet we keep pushing on the engines harder and harder.
Well put Doug never put under 93 in my car even not going to the track in it. Plus in town never have put the 93 with the 10% junk in the tank. The few times I have gone to the track always put race gas in it.