Nitrous help...
#1
Melting Slicks
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Nitrous help...
looking to run nitrous on my 03 c5z, so much to choose from plate, nozzle, one peace maf's and so on, then progressive controllers window switches yada yada yada making my head spin!
I just installed heads, cam & fast92/ls2 Tb
i'm not looking for a huge shot some where between 75 to 125 max
whats a decent setup?
pros/cons of nozzle vs plate?
would I or should I use a progressive controller?
what window switch/tps unit?
what should be used for timing controller
fuel pressure switch?
I dont plain on using the setup a lot just in those must use cases really
so what makes for a good setup on a budget? what brands should or shouldn't be used?
I just installed heads, cam & fast92/ls2 Tb
i'm not looking for a huge shot some where between 75 to 125 max
whats a decent setup?
pros/cons of nozzle vs plate?
would I or should I use a progressive controller?
what window switch/tps unit?
what should be used for timing controller
fuel pressure switch?
I dont plain on using the setup a lot just in those must use cases really
so what makes for a good setup on a budget? what brands should or shouldn't be used?
#2
Plate all the way for best distribution of nitrous, but it depends on your budget. Nitrous express , nitrous outlet, and dynotune all have very excellent customer service and support. I don't run a progressive, but they help a lot for traction. I personally run the nitrous outlet brand x kit with a nitrous outlet plate. The brand x is nitrous outlets budget kit. As far as the fuel pressure safety switches. I've never used one , heard way too many negative things on them but I have a fuel pressure gauge in my car so I keep a eye on fuel that way. Nitrous express and nitrous outlet are both vendors on this site , give them a call and they will help you out a lot.
#3
Former Vendor
I'd recommend a plate system over a nozzle, as well. A plate will give you much better distribution, and the ability to spray more. We have plate systems in both the soft steel-braid line kits, and the hard-line kits. Though a steel braid kit will be a little cheaper, the hard-line kit will be a much cleaner install.
As far as a window switch or progressive, it's really up to you with only a 100 shot. However, a progressive will help with any traction issues you may have. For the timing controller I'd go with the Lingenfelter LNC-2000. It's a easy install, and also has a 2-step function.
A few other things you may consider to help your system stay safe and performing at it's best is a bottle heater and purge kit. The Fuel Pressure Safety Switches do sometimes give trouble- however, usually they just need to be set If you have a problem with one, just give us a call and we can walk you through getting it set at the correct pressure. Here's some links to things you might useful-
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/efi-wet...uel-rails.html
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...cessories.html
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...purge-kit.html
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/electro...ontroller.html
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/electro...ontroller.html
Let me know if you have any questions- I'd be more than happy to help you out!
-Andy
As far as a window switch or progressive, it's really up to you with only a 100 shot. However, a progressive will help with any traction issues you may have. For the timing controller I'd go with the Lingenfelter LNC-2000. It's a easy install, and also has a 2-step function.
A few other things you may consider to help your system stay safe and performing at it's best is a bottle heater and purge kit. The Fuel Pressure Safety Switches do sometimes give trouble- however, usually they just need to be set If you have a problem with one, just give us a call and we can walk you through getting it set at the correct pressure. Here's some links to things you might useful-
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/efi-wet...uel-rails.html
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...cessories.html
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...purge-kit.html
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/electro...ontroller.html
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/electro...ontroller.html
Let me know if you have any questions- I'd be more than happy to help you out!
-Andy
#4
Melting Slicks
Thread Starter
Andy thanks for the input
my problem is I have a full kit i pieced together for my truck that never got installed but it's a nozzle wet kit with purge, warmer and so on, I'd like to just buy all new kit but budget is pretty blown with the recent H/C/I swap I just got true with so looking for the best route that is most budget friendly. if i used parts that I have on hand i'd still need plate, LNC-2000, pluming & window switch witch is $700+ vs from what I can tell $1,200 for all new
so just trying to figure out how I can get this done with my budget and have a well working setup, used parts would save me a bunch but really nothing out there
my problem is I have a full kit i pieced together for my truck that never got installed but it's a nozzle wet kit with purge, warmer and so on, I'd like to just buy all new kit but budget is pretty blown with the recent H/C/I swap I just got true with so looking for the best route that is most budget friendly. if i used parts that I have on hand i'd still need plate, LNC-2000, pluming & window switch witch is $700+ vs from what I can tell $1,200 for all new
so just trying to figure out how I can get this done with my budget and have a well working setup, used parts would save me a bunch but really nothing out there
#5
Former Vendor
We have just plate conversions available also, they run about 299.99. It'll include the plate, jets, and mounting hardware. If you already have most of the kit..that along with a window switch and LNC2000 would get you set. Even for a 100 hit you still need to pull timing, around 4 degrees, and go to a 7 range plug like the NGK BR7EF. So if you don't want to run separate tunes for nitrous and motor, the LNC is well worth it.
-Andy
-Andy
Last edited by NitrousOutlet; 05-18-2015 at 12:24 PM.
#6
Former Vendor
Unless you have HP tuners and like having to key the car on and off to retard timing. The LNC is great. You can have it pull timing when the solenoids are open or pull it when the system is armed. This is a great way to do motor runs and keep the power in it, then when you are ready to spray. It pulls retards the timing and your are set to let her eat.
-Lance
-Lance
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Unless you have HP tuners and like having to key the car on and off to retard timing. The LNC is great. You can have it pull timing when the solenoids are open or pull it when the system is armed. This is a great way to do motor runs and keep the power in it, then when you are ready to spray. It pulls retards the timing and your are set to let her eat.
-Lance
-Lance
It is ridiculously easy to set up and use.
I'm afraid I might fall off the wagon after I visit your shop next month when I'm in Texas...
#8
Former Vendor
Back when I was a nitrous junky, I used the LNC controller to pull timing. I only ran a 100 shot, but I was very comfortable using this system.
It is ridiculously easy to set up and use.
I'm afraid I might fall off the wagon after I visit your shop next month when I'm in Texas...
It is ridiculously easy to set up and use.
I'm afraid I might fall off the wagon after I visit your shop next month when I'm in Texas...
-Lance
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Contrary to popular belief. Doing Nitrous "right" is not cheap.... Conversely throwing a kit together can be catastrophic. Sure you can run a 75-100 shot on a stock bottom end fairly "safe"... The tune is paramount...., the window switch, LNC are a must imho.
#10
Melting Slicks
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question about the nitrous when shifting, do you setup the window switch so it shuts off the nitrous before shifting or does it get tied in to the clutch peddle? if it can be done either way witch is better?
#11
Former Vendor
the tuner suggested i by a Hp tuner setup to switch between tunes one for nitrous and one with out but really dont want to go down that road. I like the idea of the LNC as it will retard the timing just when needed over switching tunes, once its all installed it will be fine tuned on the dyno
question about the nitrous when shifting, do you setup the window switch so it shuts off the nitrous before shifting or does it get tied in to the clutch peddle? if it can be done either way witch is better?
question about the nitrous when shifting, do you setup the window switch so it shuts off the nitrous before shifting or does it get tied in to the clutch peddle? if it can be done either way witch is better?
-Lance
#13
Former Vendor
Biggest thing to look for when looking for a controller is the tech help for that product.
-Lance
#14
Melting Slicks
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now I'd like to know is it very expensive to run hard lines? I'd like to try and keep the engine bay clean as I can by running hard lines under the engine covers to the solenoids witch I want to mount someplace near the battery
I noticed on your site today there is a bunch of different solenoids sizes what is the size i would need to support up to a 125 shot?
if you can give me a price on lines and solenoids for a wet setup with purge, if i can swing it i'd like all that to be new
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I am running the Leash Electronic Progressive Controller.. Not budget friendly...
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Current set up....
#17
Melting Slicks
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0H1Z06, that looks good
the plate I have coming has rear fittings so its not going to look as clean but for what i paid and my budget i'm still smiling lol
the plate I have coming has rear fittings so its not going to look as clean but for what i paid and my budget i'm still smiling lol
#18
Former Vendor
Solenoid Brackets- 65.99
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...90mm-92mm.html
Hard Lines- 35.00
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/hard-li...-to-plate.html
Purge Kit- 119.99
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...purge-kit.html
Our plate systems use the .122 Nitrous solenoid and the .187 Fuel Solenoid
.122- 119.99
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...-solenoid.html
.187- 89.99
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...-solenoid.html
Hope this is what all you're looking for!
-Andy
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...90mm-92mm.html
Hard Lines- 35.00
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/hard-li...-to-plate.html
Purge Kit- 119.99
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...purge-kit.html
Our plate systems use the .122 Nitrous solenoid and the .187 Fuel Solenoid
.122- 119.99
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...-solenoid.html
.187- 89.99
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/nitrous...-solenoid.html
Hope this is what all you're looking for!
-Andy