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Old 04-07-2016, 08:57 AM
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Default 9sec 6 speed street car ... what HP ?

Hey guys i see lots of guys running 9 even 8s alot more on the forum .
they are almost all auto . its been a goal of mine for a long time now to get that single digit time slip while banging gears . im thinking my setup should be close to enough power to reach it . just looking for some input

i know "you will break alot of ****"

setup for far is custom single turbo should be (900whp 900trq)
ccw drag pack (315 45 16 et streets)
6060 with ZR1 diff
driveshaft shop axles
centerforce twin disc (hoping not to make pop corn with this )

ive ran 10.86 @ 133 mph with my old 6 speed Z06 with 650whp 540trq
on 18 inch drag radials .

im thinking i just gotta grow a set and go try lol
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I went through this too.

I have a ttix at 800 at the tire and it runs 9.84 at 142

when it was a stick, best I could do was 10.50's at 144

I dropped the 60 ft time from 1.82 to 1.55 by going auto and the car responsded with a 9.84 due to the much better launch and taller gears (3.42 vs 3.90) and the better performance from the auto.

you have enough HP to do it NOW. but with the stick, you'll need to focus on the suspension upgrades to hook it better

get rid of front swap bar, looser shocks, better tires and LOTS of practice driving.

the hard part is getting the power down and the right clutch, tires, and suspension make all the difference. The corvette handles great but handling great and optimizing for the digs are two different things and require a bit more suspension tuning.

the IRS complicates matters here too by changing the camber when the car squats on launch which makes it harder to hook.

you got the jam already, just need to put it all down and you should be in the 9's. not easy!
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Originally Posted by Rkreigh
I went through this too.

I have a ttix at 800 at the tire and it runs 9.84 at 142

when it was a stick, best I could do was 10.50's at 144

I dropped the 60 ft time from 1.82 to 1.55 by going auto and the car responsded with a 9.84 due to the much better launch and taller gears (3.42 vs 3.90) and the better performance from the auto.

you have enough HP to do it NOW. but with the stick, you'll need to focus on the suspension upgrades to hook it better

get rid of front swap bar, looser shocks, better tires and LOTS of practice driving.

the hard part is getting the power down and the right clutch, tires, and suspension make all the difference. The corvette handles great but handling great and optimizing for the digs are two different things and require a bit more suspension tuning.

the IRS complicates matters here too by changing the camber when the car squats on launch which makes it harder to hook.

you got the jam already, just need to put it all down and you should be in the 9's. not easy!
thanks for the input . i do have a coilover suspension already
front sway gone also . i do know the alignment plays a factor for traction . going to be another 3 weeks or so before i can actually try the car on the street . ive never tried it with the 16s . im hoping for some traction in 2nd gear . for the track i do also have 28 inch Hoosier slicks that i could put on if the radials dont hook . Also forgot the mention id like to drive the car to the track and back home , this is why i didn't want to run the hoosiers lol

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I ran a 9.96@149 with a 1.56 60' with the stick trans.. Definitely left a lot in the 60', and lost a lot of time on shifts.. 840rwhp. It only took me about 6 passes to run the 9.96... Unfortunately I broke the diff twice before I got there, and broke the trans and diff right after the 9.96 trying to 60' harder.

I'm sure I could have gone 9.70s with more passes, IF I could have kept the drivetrain alive. I gave up, went auto and dropped 7 tenths off my ET first trip out..and ran more mph.

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Originally Posted by ajrothm
I ran a 9.96@149 with a 1.56 60' with the stick trans.. Definitely left a lot in the 60', and lost a lot of time on shifts.. 840rwhp. It only took me about 6 passes to run the 9.96... Unfortunately I broke the diff twice before I got there, and broke the trans and diff right after the 9.96 trying to 60' harder.

I'm sure I could have gone 9.70s with more passes, IF I could have kept the drivetrain alive. I gave up, went auto and dropped 7 tenths off my ET first trip out..and ran more mph.
Was this with the tr6060 trans and matching diff?
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Was this with the tr6060 trans and matching diff?
No... It was a fully built MN12 Trans, fully built 3 rib diff..

Obviously the TR6060/c6z diff is much stronger... They'll still break axle stubs easy enough tho unless you have the DSS 300M axles.. Other brand 300Ms will still break pretty easy.
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Ive gone high 9's twice with my old LME 416 and NO 150hp shot setup. On et streets 26x11.5x16 CCW drag pack setup. I did a clutch slip outta the hole around 45-5000 both passes, around 1.48-1.5 60' and I was on stock z51 springs/shocks with Hotchkis's heavy duty swaybars front and rear. Haven't been able to make a 1/4 pass since I went twins and iron 6 liter.
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Originally Posted by ajrothm
No... It was a fully built MN12 Trans, fully built 3 rib diff..

Obviously the TR6060/c6z diff is much stronger... They'll still break axle stubs easy enough tho unless you have the DSS 300M axles.. Other brand 300Ms will still break pretty easy.
this is why im tempted to go try my car out . i do have all the upgraded parts i need to go . just dont want to loose my car for the summer cause im waiting for expensive parts lol
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Originally Posted by ajrothm
No... It was a fully built MN12 Trans, fully built 3 rib diff..

Obviously the TR6060/c6z diff is much stronger... They'll still break axle stubs easy enough tho unless you have the DSS 300M axles.. Other brand 300Ms will still break pretty easy.
Thanks AJ. Your platform is similar (I'm smaller cubes) to mine and I'm just across town. Hope to see yours at the track one day.
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I went 9's in my MN6 TT C6 with a little over 700whp hitting limiter well before the 1320 marker. Changed gearing and never made it back to a 1/4 but went consistent 6.1@118 in the 1/8 (sub 9.5's) with 750whp/795tq
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One guy in here (with a TTiX kit I think) barely dipped into the 9s with 650rwhp. I'd assume 750+ rwhp on a stick car to make it consistent.
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Turbogeist made it into the 9.90s@148ish on a stock LS1 motor and TTiX kit...he was right around 800 rwhp... I think he was around a 1.54 60'.
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I was in the 1.39-1.41 60' range.
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I ran consistent 9.6-9.84 passes in my C6. Horsepower was right at 800-825rwhp since I kept the air filter on every pass I made and pulled it off for glory dyno pulls. I ran back to back exact 9.81's one day 30 minutes apart. The most my car ever made on a dyno was 855 with nitrous. I actually trapped my highest off of the nitrous. Full street car 149, no slicks, skinnies, I'm 230 with a rollbar, and factory wheels up front and heavy FBody wheels with drag radials. No changes made from driving the car hundreds of miles across Texas weekly except a drop in air pressure in the rear tires.











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800 in full street trim is doable. If you're running slicks/skinnies/lower gears/weight reduction, etc, then maybe 700. But a real streetcar, the way you drive it daily will be closer to 800.
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by the looks of everyone passed experience i have a 100whp and 100trq too much lol . thanks for all the info guys . heading back to the dyno tonight wont be seing the track for a few months since im in canada and snow is just gone now lol

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I hopefully will be around 900 with my 6.0, ysi, e85 setup. I've got a mn6 w 300M outputs. I have a ccw 16" drag pack w skinnies, back tire is a MT 295/50/16. My lack of track experience will be my problem, but im really wanting to pull off a 9 sec. Pass this year!
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Fwiw, my buddy has been 9.40s @ 155+ with a 347/YSi (8"/3" pulleys).
On the dyno it made 920. At the track he's pulled the timing back a little bit. He's also on E85.

C6Z trans and diff. On Hoosier QTP mounted on a 16" wheel. RXT clutch. Full weight - street car. Drives to the track, rips off some passes, drives home.

Best of success with your goals!
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Checking in.
9.96@145


792/748

Mod List
  • Original 85k mile LS1
  • 2.5 Bar SD Tune
  • TTiX kit with 57mm turbos @ 18 psi
  • LS6 intake, 220/224 Pat G cam, Comp 918 Springs, hardened pushrods
  • ID1000's, Racetronix 255 intank, KB BAP, 98 rails, rail mounted regulator and -6an return line
  • 93 octane and Snow Dual nozzle meth kit with 100% VP M1
  • Stock MN6 transmission and 3.42 Rear Differential
  • B&M shifter, McLeod RXT Twin Clutch, Aluminum flywheel, DSS carbon shaft, DTE brace, Hardened output shafts
  • Corsa Full Ti Exhaust

Driven to the track, raced and driven home.

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