N20 wet plate kit on stock motor?
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N20 wet plate kit on stock motor?
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/efi-wet...te-system.htmlWas wondering if anyone has any experience with this nitrous kit. Has anyone run this kit on a stock motor without any add ons/tunes? What would i be looking at as far as supporting mods? Looking to do something around a 100 shot. Im mainly just looking for something to give me the extra umph once i get goin on a pull. I know i saw something about a cold spark plug and obviously id need to monitor fuel pressure. But just wanted to see if someone could chime in about this kit that has used it before. Thanks in advance for any advice!
Last edited by Jay Bizzal; 05-09-2016 at 05:44 PM.
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Lots of stock cars running a 100 shot. Give our kit a look. If you have anymore questions let me know.
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http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/efi-wet...te-system.htmlWas wondering if anyone has any experience with this nitrous kit. Has anyone run this kit on a stock motor without any add ons/tunes? What would i be looking at as far as supporting mods? Looking to do something around a 100 shot. Im mainly just looking for something to give me the extra umph once i get goin on a pull. I know i saw something about a cold spark plug and obviously id need to monitor fuel pressure. But just wanted to see if someone could chime in about this kit that has used it before. Thanks in advance for any advice!
You'll also want a colder non-projected plug (ngk BR7EF comes to mind, gapped around .029-.030" should suffice.) In all honesty, you are talking about a 346 cubic inch 5.7 liter V8. 100 shot really isn't leaning on it too much PROVIDED the car is in proper working order (sensors, no intake./vacuum leaks, etc.) I used to spray my old '87 Fox body coupe with 150 shot all day long, and it has a stock 170k mile bottom end with no issues at all.
After the install, ensure you have no leaks, go spray in one gear (maybe 2nd), shut the car down, pull a plug and read it. Without any other tools that will give your best view into the combustion chamber. Good luck!
FYI, Nitrous Outlet and Nitrous Express (I noticed he posted up there) both make excellent kits, so you'll do well with either of them.
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St. Jude Donor '10-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17
Running this kit on my 2000 MN6, stock bottom end. Have heads, cam, intake (LS6) and XS-Power headers through Ti exhaust and QTP cutouts.
I have it set up for a 150 shot, with all attendant safeguards (WOT, FPS, etc. and LNC-2000 controller to pull timing when on the spray. It is dyno tuned.
It did 398 RWHP/ 385 RWTQ NA and on the spray it did 543 RWHP /617 RWTQ.
So far no issues and the kit performs as advertised. Don't think you can go wrong with this kit and as others have stated it will work fine if set up properly and not abused.
I have it set up for a 150 shot, with all attendant safeguards (WOT, FPS, etc. and LNC-2000 controller to pull timing when on the spray. It is dyno tuned.
It did 398 RWHP/ 385 RWTQ NA and on the spray it did 543 RWHP /617 RWTQ.
So far no issues and the kit performs as advertised. Don't think you can go wrong with this kit and as others have stated it will work fine if set up properly and not abused.
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Melting Slicks
Running this kit on my 2000 MN6, stock bottom end. Have heads, cam, intake (LS6) and XS-Power headers through Ti exhaust and QTP cutouts.
I have it set up for a 150 shot, with all attendant safeguards (WOT, FPS, etc. and LNC-2000 controller to pull timing when on the spray. It is dyno tuned.
It did 398 RWHP/ 385 RWTQ NA and on the spray it did 543 RWHP /617 RWTQ.
So far no issues and the kit performs as advertised. Don't think you can go wrong with this kit and as others have stated it will work fine if set up properly and not abused.
I have it set up for a 150 shot, with all attendant safeguards (WOT, FPS, etc. and LNC-2000 controller to pull timing when on the spray. It is dyno tuned.
It did 398 RWHP/ 385 RWTQ NA and on the spray it did 543 RWHP /617 RWTQ.
So far no issues and the kit performs as advertised. Don't think you can go wrong with this kit and as others have stated it will work fine if set up properly and not abused.
i have a nitrous outlet kit with the 92mm wet plate kit going on this week, LNC-2000 and micro storm controller going to jet for 125 shot
with the timing controller is a colder plug still needed?
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St. Jude Donor '10-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17
I did not go to a colder plug, but others may want to comment.
Last edited by alxltd1; 05-11-2016 at 01:21 PM.
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I was curious about this as well. For a 100 shot on a bolt on C5Z, does one really need to go to a 7 heat range plug? I can get behind a non-projected style plug, but why couldn't you use a BR6EF instead of a BR7EF? Both are non-projected, and the 6EF would certainly run better around town on motor.
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Le Mans Master
Oh, and alxltd1, do you know what plug gap you are using? I wonder if gapping all the way down to .029 is really necessary on a bolt on C5Z to prevent spark blowout.
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What kind of questions do you have? Our system comes out of the box ready to go. This system is vehicle specific meaning it has vehicle specific solenoid brackets and hard lines that is designed for your intake manifold. No trying to figure out where to mount everything. Simply bolt it on, the hard lines are specific to your application for a clean install. No extra braided lines strung all over. We recommend a purge and bottle heater for consistent bottle pressure. I also recommend getting a LNC-2000 to pull timing. You may or may not get away with the stock tune. If you have any questions feel free to email me at Matt@NitrousOutlet.com
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I'm Running 100 shot nitrous express on a stock bottom end on my 01 C5 with no issues so far.
My question is I'm thinking going AA Supercharger but how much more HP will I see? Kit is 5,100 and that's a huge nut to crack for a slight gain over the Nitrous 100 shot . I know it's on tap all the time but that's a lot of cash if it's a small gain.
Thanks Guys
My question is I'm thinking going AA Supercharger but how much more HP will I see? Kit is 5,100 and that's a huge nut to crack for a slight gain over the Nitrous 100 shot . I know it's on tap all the time but that's a lot of cash if it's a small gain.
Thanks Guys
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Le Mans Master
What kind of questions do you have? Our system comes out of the box ready to go. This system is vehicle specific meaning it has vehicle specific solenoid brackets and hard lines that is designed for your intake manifold. No trying to figure out where to mount everything. Simply bolt it on, the hard lines are specific to your application for a clean install. No extra braided lines strung all over. We recommend a purge and bottle heater for consistent bottle pressure. I also recommend getting a LNC-2000 to pull timing. You may or may not get away with the stock tune. If you have any questions feel free to email me at Matt@NitrousOutlet.com
My question is this. Obviously depending on how much timing is being added above stock to my custom tune, I'll need to pull the appropriate amount of timing back out of the car on nitrous. Under WOT, on nitrous, how many degrees of total timing should I be seeing on the datalogger? I figure that may be a more honest way of knowing where the car needs to be at i.e. if I pulled enough, or pulled too much, etc.
Thanks.
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I just sprung for an LNC2000 and I currently run your plate kit. I have a custom tune through my diablosport inTune, and essentially instead of having to switch between two tunes, one for motor, one for nitrous, I figured the LNC2000 would allow me to drive on the aggressive motor tune and be able to flip the timing back when I need to use the nitrous.
My question is this. Obviously depending on how much timing is being added above stock to my custom tune, I'll need to pull the appropriate amount of timing back out of the car on nitrous. Under WOT, on nitrous, how many degrees of total timing should I be seeing on the datalogger? I figure that may be a more honest way of knowing where the car needs to be at i.e. if I pulled enough, or pulled too much, etc.
Thanks.
My question is this. Obviously depending on how much timing is being added above stock to my custom tune, I'll need to pull the appropriate amount of timing back out of the car on nitrous. Under WOT, on nitrous, how many degrees of total timing should I be seeing on the datalogger? I figure that may be a more honest way of knowing where the car needs to be at i.e. if I pulled enough, or pulled too much, etc.
Thanks.
Therefore, what the data logger sees minus how much you are pulling with the lnc will be your total timing.
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How much timing you pull will be dependent on what your total timing is before hand as well as what fuel you're using. The LNC is nice because it does allow you to pull timing only when your nitrous is armed to keep from driving around with less timing in the car. We have customers running 150 shots on stock internals.
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Le Mans Master
Keep in mind however that the lnc is post pcm. By that I mean it changes the timing after the pcm, so a data logger will not show how many degrees are being pulled.
Therefore, what the data logger sees minus how much you are pulling with the lnc will be your total timing.
Therefore, what the data logger sees minus how much you are pulling with the lnc will be your total timing.
How much timing you pull will be dependent on what your total timing is before hand as well as what fuel you're using. The LNC is nice because it does allow you to pull timing only when your nitrous is armed to keep from driving around with less timing in the car. We have customers running 150 shots on stock internals.