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N02 Plug reading advice?

Old 09-12-2016, 10:44 AM
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I have a HCI C5Z, direct port fast 102 intake, LNC-2000, stand alone fuel system running @ 5psi with C16. Shot size around 200.

This is my plug after my last test hit yesterday. And yes I turned the car off immediately after the run and coasted then check the plugs

My AFR gage was reading 10.5 on this pull but it looks to me like its a little lean. I could see a slight pepper so I took out one degree of timing but it was getting too late to make another run.

I like to see what other opinions would be on this plug reading. Any advice would be appreciated.







Old 09-12-2016, 10:57 AM
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You need to cut the threads to see the fuel ring.
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also, get a pic of the strap
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Way too rich, but not necessarily at WOT.
and I see detonation going on there. Better back it down and creep up on it and get those projected plugs out of there. That's a big no-no.

Get the right plugs in there. Pull over to the side of the road where you're able to safely make a hit without putting anyone else at risk, put a fresh plug in at least one cylinder, make a full pass and shut the engine down immediately. Pull over, pull that plug, put the old plug back in and send me a pic of it.
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Thanks!!
Im going to pick up some BR7s today and try and get some testing in.
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You should switch to a non-projected tip plug like the NGK B8EFS. The projected tip plugs tend to hold heat and cause pre-ignition. Have those plugs had any driving time on them at all?
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Also, what jets are in it? What's your base timing and how much are you pulling on it?
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Base timing is at 23° and I was pulling -5° on that run
I thought around 18° was a good starting point.

N02 .026
Fuel .022

The plugs had about 50 miles on them before I did the test runs.
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To get an accurate reading on the plugs- you need to use a fresh set of plugs right out of the box. When you go back to the track, take a few sets of the NGK BR7EF's and B8EFS's with you- they run less than $20 per set, and are an invaluable tuning tool. Once you get to the track swap out the plugs for the new set, push the car through the lanes up to the line. Then do your burnout, your pull- and shut it down at the line and get somebody to tow/push you back to the pits. Then pull the plugs. A plug that has drive time on them is impossible to read because idling tends to make plugs look rich- and with even a few minutes of idle time it can completely throw off the way a plug reads. With the amount that you're spraying you may be on a 7 or 8 heat range, so it'd be best to start on the 8'S, and if they have no heat on them after a pull switch to the 7's.

-Andy
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Originally Posted by NitrousOutlet
To get an accurate reading on the plugs- you need to use a fresh set of plugs right out of the box. When you go back to the track, take a few sets of the NGK BR7EF's and B8EFS's with you- they run less than $20 per set, and are an invaluable tuning tool. Once you get to the track swap out the plugs for the new set, push the car through the lanes up to the line. Then do your burnout, your pull- and shut it down at the line and get somebody to tow/push you back to the pits. Then pull the plugs. A plug that has drive time on them is impossible to read because idling tends to make plugs look rich- and with even a few minutes of idle time it can completely throw off the way a plug reads. With the amount that you're spraying you may be on a 7 or 8 heat range, so it'd be best to start on the 8'S, and if they have no heat on them after a pull switch to the 7's.

-Andy

Danm, just stocked up on the br7s...lol

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It's alright- just pick up some 8's to start with in order to play it safe. Other than that- looks like you're good for a weekend at the track!
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That pic is sex...

Originally Posted by JROZ06
Danm, just stocked up on the br7s...lol

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