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HELP Request [REP] - Reduced Engine Power - Twin Turbo 427 Corvette

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Old 03-08-2017, 05:42 PM
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all he said in the emails is its tuned up to 18psi with a safety at 21psi. i know ive spiked over 21psi on the street before and it sent it into REP.

i wish i knew more about the tuning but its something i never had the ambition to learn or be apart of, i sent you a text.
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Did it ever do that on the dyno or any other time? If you accelerate without launching does it still happen? If the computer losses communication or has an unclear reading it will go into that mode. Pain in the @ss I know. I was having issues where car would randomly act up at cruise and go into reduced engine power. I changed throttle position sensor and that fixed it but it doesn't sound like your issue.

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Old 03-09-2017, 10:04 AM
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No issues on the dyno. It spiked to 24 psi on the last dyno pulls and no problem. Those pulls were from 2500 to 6500 with full boost before 4000 rpm. Right now it only happens on a hard launch at the track with throttle applied very quickly and maximum traction. I think I've had it happen once on the street a few months ago. I was in 2nd or 3rd with lots of tire spin and had to get on and off the throttle repeatedly. This caused it to go into REP.
Old 03-09-2017, 11:12 AM
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Maybe the G-load at that time, is causing a connector/ground/ecu pin to tweak just enough to have a contact issue.
Old 03-09-2017, 11:25 AM
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In these kind of cases, logging is everything.

When there is enough disparity between requested throttle and actual throttle, REP will be activated.

An example of that can be seen in the screen shot below. Just compare Throttle Position (SAE) and ETC position in that particular moment...

Old 03-09-2017, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo-Geist
Good info. I think the tables are basically the same whether using efi live or hptuners. It sure would be nice to know which ones were changed and where the values are set.

Did he mention why it is still going to do it above 21 psi?
I was always told the efi had more detail tables in it for better like tuning. But HP tuners had same tables but the hp tables stuff was easy to work in & faster to do. But I couldn't tune a fart on one are the other. But was told by 3 diff tuners that was the reason they went to HP tuners.. Robert
Old 03-09-2017, 07:51 PM
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I had a similar problem with my car. It ended being the throttle body electrical connector would get slightly loose. I basically unplugged it and plugged it back in and the problem went away.

It was a simple problem but did'nt figure it out untill after I bought a new ls2 throttle body and the problem happened again.
Old 03-09-2017, 07:58 PM
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I had this problem and went through every table for throttle and map,Its been along time since i had any trouble but you can check these tables,This is from EFILive though, Table C3004 predicted map min.table,C3003 predicted MAP max I have maxed out,# C3906 TPS vs RPM Test upper,C3907 TPS vs RPM test Lower,
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Originally Posted by Pekka_Perkeles

An example of that can be seen in the screen shot below. Just compare Throttle Position (SAE) and ETC position in that particular moment...
The screen shot is a good capture. I log tps now and will add etc for the next track visit. Unfortunately the track rained out Sat, Sun, and Tuesday. I'm in Utah skiing till next week so I'll have to wait until the weekend of the 18th to test.

What is going on with the car that you posted? Have you figured out what is causing the discrepancy and a remedy?

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Old 03-13-2017, 05:45 PM
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Got this 4-5 times on my c6 this weekend. Was able to edit the p1516 parameters in the newest HP tuners to disable it.
Old 03-13-2017, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Got this 4-5 times on my c6 this weekend. Was able to edit the p1516 parameters in the newest HP tuners to disable it.
Do you have a screen shot for P1516 parameters ?
Old 03-13-2017, 10:59 PM
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Nope.

Its kind of hidden and has to be added. Newest beta, then add slave data. Then save file. Close out, reopen. Then its under dianostics/airflow.
Old 03-14-2017, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo-Geist
What is going on with the car that you posted? Have you figured out what is causing the discrepancy and a remedy?
A weak TB motor. It's been well-known with NW102 for years for high hp builds.

I don't know the current situation, as there may have been some improvements with the design.

Since your issue is with stock (GM ETC) TB, you might not be able to fix your problem with tuning. A cable TB, pedal, cable itself and IAC motor + some wiring and tune changes would be needed.

However, please VERIFY first what's going on by logging with HP Tuners.
Old 03-14-2017, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wesam
Do you have a screen shot for P1516 parameters ?
Not available for C5 PCM's.
Old 03-14-2017, 08:57 AM
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That sucks.
Old 03-14-2017, 09:24 AM
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So with this thought of the TB motor being the issue I assume it is being forced into a position due to boost pressure that the PCM request signal doesn't jive with? One would guess that the bigger the TB the worse the problem also.
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Originally Posted by slow ride
So with this thought of the TB motor being the issue I assume it is being forced into a position due to boost pressure that the PCM request signal doesn't jive with? One would guess that the bigger the TB the worse the problem also.
Correct.

Please see also this recent thread:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ith-turbo.html

Still, what's actually happening needs to be verified first with logging.

And that's exactly what OP is going to do as soon as he's back from his vacation. :-)

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Old 03-14-2017, 01:42 PM
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when mine was doing it my tuner tried a brand new ls2 TB. it wasn't what was causing it.
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I have a NW 102mm TB,No problems,But I'm only at 10 lbs of boost.I did have problems at first awhile back,The blade at WOT wanted to go past the horizontal/WOT position so I drilled a hole and tapped for a bolt/set screw to stop the blade from trying to flip past the WOT point and it must flip out the TPS sensor lol,Never had a problem after that.If your looking at the throttle opening,Its about at the 4o'clock position.
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Great info so far, appreciate it. This setup hasn't caused me any issues this week.



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