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07-01-2005, 10:15 AM
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St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by Willfulone
Welcome to the Forum!The dark side will get you sooner or later...
Peace
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Uh d00d, We are the side of righteousness and light.....
07-01-2005, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ViperBlueCobra
On that last discussion nobody ever pointed out my points and argued them back..
I guess you guys have a sore spot for the 03/04 cobras. It brings out the worst in ya'll. Cheaper and more hp. If you look at my arguement..if anything Corvette owners should take it as a complement. That the Vette was or is "the base line" of performance, and they tried/or did, beat it.
What was cracking me up the most..many were stating that your not supposed to compare the c5 to the cobra. To me that's just delusional statement. I think a few agreed with me.
And also to ignore the fact that mach 1 mustangs are running the same or not better times then the c5 is also delusional.
But I guess some vette owners need to learn the hard way.
Oh and I'm going to the drag strip tonight. Houston Raceway Park if anyone is interested in running.
Cheers
I guess you guys have a sore spot for the 03/04 cobras. It brings out the worst in ya'll. Cheaper and more hp. If you look at my arguement..if anything Corvette owners should take it as a complement. That the Vette was or is "the base line" of performance, and they tried/or did, beat it.
What was cracking me up the most..many were stating that your not supposed to compare the c5 to the cobra. To me that's just delusional statement. I think a few agreed with me.
And also to ignore the fact that mach 1 mustangs are running the same or not better times then the c5 is also delusional.
But I guess some vette owners need to learn the hard way.
Oh and I'm going to the drag strip tonight. Houston Raceway Park if anyone is interested in running.
Cheers
It was getting a bit difficult to even figure out what points were trying to be made once you went to the stang forum, posted what you started, and then brought over some trolls which ruined the entire thread. If you really want a discussion, then discuss here, and don't try to stir up two different forums against each other.
In any case, take the higher road from here, and we will forgive and forget. Any American car that does 13s or better gets this
from me! You buy what you can afford and what you like, and if it runs better than some other car, great, however, as alot of us always say, there is always somebody that can beat yours with less. I learned this the hard way once, when somebody bought a $5K TSI AWD Talon, put $4K in mods in it, and ran 11.6 on motor and 10.60s on juice. On the other extreme in this area, we have a viper that puts 1000+ hp to the ground, but only runs high 11s/low 12s, he did not set the car up for traction after all the money he put into it. After you see extremes like this, all else seems trivial.
Good luck at the track tonight, come back and post your times, hopefully you will hit the low 12s, sounds like you are close.
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07-01-2005, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ViperBlueCobra
On that last discussion nobody ever pointed out my points and argued them back..
I guess you guys have a sore spot for the 03/04 cobras. It brings out the worst in ya'll. Cheaper and more hp. If you look at my arguement..if anything Corvette owners should take it as a complement. That the Vette was or is "the base line" of performance, and they tried/or did, beat it.
What was cracking me up the most..many were stating that your not supposed to compare the c5 to the cobra. To me that's just delusional statement. I think a few agreed with me.
And also to ignore the fact that mach 1 mustangs are running the same or not better times then the c5 is also delusional.
But I guess some vette owners need to learn the hard way.
Oh and I'm going to the drag strip tonight. Houston Raceway Park if anyone is interested in running.
Cheers
I guess you guys have a sore spot for the 03/04 cobras. It brings out the worst in ya'll. Cheaper and more hp. If you look at my arguement..if anything Corvette owners should take it as a complement. That the Vette was or is "the base line" of performance, and they tried/or did, beat it.
What was cracking me up the most..many were stating that your not supposed to compare the c5 to the cobra. To me that's just delusional statement. I think a few agreed with me.
And also to ignore the fact that mach 1 mustangs are running the same or not better times then the c5 is also delusional.
But I guess some vette owners need to learn the hard way.
Oh and I'm going to the drag strip tonight. Houston Raceway Park if anyone is interested in running.
Cheers
CLICK!! bu bye now. Good riddance.
07-01-2005, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 3RD-INF
If you really want to get along and contribute to our forum then you must stop posting crap on the Ford/Mustang forums. I'm not too sure they like you on their forum either.
http://www.fordpower.net/forums/showthread.php?t=127789
http://www.fordpower.net/forums/showthread.php?t=127789
Seems we have a bit of a snake in the grass, people..... (no pun intended
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07-01-2005, 12:17 PM
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Funny.I have a stock 04 mach 1 and a once stock 00 vette.When it was stock(and when i say stock,i mean how it was drivin home in 00)it would still walk circles around my mach 1.No comparison on handling or braking either.The vette was leaps and bounds a better performance car.
Now as far as your other statements about comparisons.An 04 cobra to an 04 c5.Obvious winner.But the cobra is the z06 of the mustangs,right? Why not compare apples to apples.
04 c5 Vs. 04 gt(or Mach 1 )
04 zo6 vs 04 cobra
Now stock for stock apples to apples,Who is the better performer.
Typical mustang owners have issues comparing because if its done in the proper aspect,there is a reason there cars are cheaper.
Now as far as your other statements about comparisons.An 04 cobra to an 04 c5.Obvious winner.But the cobra is the z06 of the mustangs,right? Why not compare apples to apples.
04 c5 Vs. 04 gt(or Mach 1 )
04 zo6 vs 04 cobra
Now stock for stock apples to apples,Who is the better performer.
Typical mustang owners have issues comparing because if its done in the proper aspect,there is a reason there cars are cheaper.
07-01-2005, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sshole
Now as far as your other statements about comparisons.An 04 cobra to an 04 c5.Obvious winner.But the cobra is the z06 of the mustangs,right? Why not compare apples to apples.
04 c5 Vs. 04 gt(or Mach 1 )
04 zo6 vs 04 cobra
Now stock for stock apples to apples,Who is the better performer.
Typical mustang owners have issues comparing because if its done in the proper aspect,there is a reason there cars are cheaper.
04 c5 Vs. 04 gt(or Mach 1 )
04 zo6 vs 04 cobra
Now stock for stock apples to apples,Who is the better performer.
Typical mustang owners have issues comparing because if its done in the proper aspect,there is a reason there cars are cheaper.
07-01-2005, 01:01 PM
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*tosses a cookie at the troll*
If you guys read the ford board link posted earlier you'll get the flavor of the intensions of this guy.
oh... and IB4TL. At least grumpy's having fun w/ this guy.
If you guys read the ford board link posted earlier you'll get the flavor of the intensions of this guy.
oh... and IB4TL. At least grumpy's having fun w/ this guy.
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07-01-2005, 01:03 PM
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Supporting Tuner
This quote from a member of the Ford Power forum summed up this troll perfectly.
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can't type it here, can't link it here
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07-01-2005, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sshole
Funny.I have a stock 04 mach 1 and a once stock 00 vette.When it was stock(and when i say stock,i mean how it was drivin home in 00)it would still walk circles around my mach 1.No comparison on handling or braking either.The vette was leaps and bounds a better performance car.
Now as far as your other statements about comparisons.An 04 cobra to an 04 c5.Obvious winner.But the cobra is the z06 of the mustangs,right? Why not compare apples to apples.
04 c5 Vs. 04 gt(or Mach 1 )
04 zo6 vs 04 cobra
Now stock for stock apples to apples,Who is the better performer.
Typical mustang owners have issues comparing because if its done in the proper aspect,there is a reason there cars are cheaper.
Now as far as your other statements about comparisons.An 04 cobra to an 04 c5.Obvious winner.But the cobra is the z06 of the mustangs,right? Why not compare apples to apples.
04 c5 Vs. 04 gt(or Mach 1 )
04 zo6 vs 04 cobra
Now stock for stock apples to apples,Who is the better performer.
Typical mustang owners have issues comparing because if its done in the proper aspect,there is a reason there cars are cheaper.
GT mustang was made to compete with the camaro z28 and the cobra was to compete with the camaro ss.
Since GM doesn't make those cars we now must assume the GT all the sudden starts compete with the Corvette?? Umm no.
Ford decided the use the Corvette as the next bench mark. So the Cobra was geared towards the corvette. Ford really doesn't have anything for the z06 mustang wise..but they do have the FORD GT.
Or if I use your thinking...
BASE MODEL FORD GT vs C5 Corvette or C6 Corvette then. right? Those are all base models...
Seriously guys, look at this situation. Your blinded by your c5 or something I don't know. But Ford was using the cobra to race the C5 because that was the next car up the ladder. Honestly we can thank GM for getting rid of the Camaro, otherwise Ford's cobra may not be as fast as it is still competeing with the ss.
Wether or not you guys will admit it.. the Cobra mustang is supposed to compete with the "base" model corvette. Look at price, hp, all that good stuff and you will see.
07-01-2005, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ViperBlueCobra
I've explained this a million times!
GT mustang was made to compete with the camaro z28 and the cobra was to compete with the camaro ss.
Since GM doesn't make those cars we now must assume the GT all the sudden starts compete with the Corvette?? Umm no.
Ford decided the use the Corvette as the next bench mark. So the Cobra was geared towards the corvette. Ford really doesn't have anything for the z06 mustang wise..but they do have the FORD GT.
Or if I use your thinking...
BASE MODEL FORD GT vs C5 Corvette or C6 Corvette then. right? Those are all base models...
Seriously guys, look at this situation. Your blinded by your c5 or something I don't know. But Ford was using the cobra to race the C5 because that was the next car up the ladder. Honestly we can thank GM for getting rid of the Camaro, otherwise Ford's cobra may not be as fast as it is still competeing with the ss.
Wether or not you guys will admit it.. the Cobra mustang is supposed to compete with the "base" model corvette. Look at price, hp, all that good stuff and you will see.
GT mustang was made to compete with the camaro z28 and the cobra was to compete with the camaro ss.
Since GM doesn't make those cars we now must assume the GT all the sudden starts compete with the Corvette?? Umm no.
Ford decided the use the Corvette as the next bench mark. So the Cobra was geared towards the corvette. Ford really doesn't have anything for the z06 mustang wise..but they do have the FORD GT.
Or if I use your thinking...
BASE MODEL FORD GT vs C5 Corvette or C6 Corvette then. right? Those are all base models...
Seriously guys, look at this situation. Your blinded by your c5 or something I don't know. But Ford was using the cobra to race the C5 because that was the next car up the ladder. Honestly we can thank GM for getting rid of the Camaro, otherwise Ford's cobra may not be as fast as it is still competeing with the ss.
Wether or not you guys will admit it.. the Cobra mustang is supposed to compete with the "base" model corvette. Look at price, hp, all that good stuff and you will see.
Next year Ford will produce the Shelby Mustang Cobra, with a reported 450 hp, I'm sure Ford fans will love to say it will beat a base C6 with 400hp, but they won't want to compare it against the 06 Z06 with over 500 hp.
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07-01-2005, 02:19 PM
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07-01-2005, 02:20 PM
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09
Originally Posted by ViperBlueCobra
I've explained this a million times!
GT mustang was made to compete with the camaro z28 and the cobra was to compete with the camaro ss.
Since GM doesn't make those cars we now must assume the GT all the sudden starts compete with the Corvette?? Umm no.
Ford decided the use the Corvette as the next bench mark. So the Cobra was geared towards the corvette. Ford really doesn't have anything for the z06 mustang wise..but they do have the FORD GT.
Or if I use your thinking...
BASE MODEL FORD GT vs C5 Corvette or C6 Corvette then. right? Those are all base models...
Seriously guys, look at this situation. Your blinded by your c5 or something I don't know. But Ford was using the cobra to race the C5 because that was the next car up the ladder. Honestly we can thank GM for getting rid of the Camaro, otherwise Ford's cobra may not be as fast as it is still competeing with the ss.
Wether or not you guys will admit it.. the Cobra mustang is supposed to compete with the "base" model corvette. Look at price, hp, all that good stuff and you will see.
GT mustang was made to compete with the camaro z28 and the cobra was to compete with the camaro ss.
Since GM doesn't make those cars we now must assume the GT all the sudden starts compete with the Corvette?? Umm no.
Ford decided the use the Corvette as the next bench mark. So the Cobra was geared towards the corvette. Ford really doesn't have anything for the z06 mustang wise..but they do have the FORD GT.
Or if I use your thinking...
BASE MODEL FORD GT vs C5 Corvette or C6 Corvette then. right? Those are all base models...
Seriously guys, look at this situation. Your blinded by your c5 or something I don't know. But Ford was using the cobra to race the C5 because that was the next car up the ladder. Honestly we can thank GM for getting rid of the Camaro, otherwise Ford's cobra may not be as fast as it is still competeing with the ss.
Wether or not you guys will admit it.. the Cobra mustang is supposed to compete with the "base" model corvette. Look at price, hp, all that good stuff and you will see.
07-01-2005, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hot BluZ
I agree, the direct comparisons were alway Mustang and Camero/Firebird, but with them gone, Mustang and its derivatives are in their own class, as is the Corvette. Ford seems to want something to compare with, it seems the Corvette is the car that everyone uses a the benchmark.
Originally Posted by Hot BluZ
Next year Ford will produce the Shelby Mustang Cobra, with a reported 450 hp, I'm sure Ford fans will love to say it will beat a base C6 with 400hp, but they won't want to compare it against the 06 Z06 with over 500 hp.
C6 msrp price = ???
Shelby Cobra msrp price = ????
06 z06 msrp price = ???
If ford wanted to compete with the z06, they would build a 65,000 dollar car. But for right now, it's just baby steps, as Ford is still playing catch up to the standard base model corvette. Wouldn't your agree that the race on a track(autocross road course) would be close for a c6 vs Shelby gt500 then the new z06 compared to the shelby gt500? C6 would probably still beat it! Let alone the z06. And the new z06 is corvette's "supercar" if I remember reading the GM press release about the msrp and 1/3 the cost of a supercar. So it should be compared to the Ford GT, in my opinion, because the's ford's supercar. Right?
And in my opinion the Ford GT is over priced, BIG TIME!! Especially when the new z06 comes out..I've heard rumors of it been very watered down with 500 hp!!!!! That's awesome!!
07-01-2005, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by C5VetteLS1
Personally I think you're a mouthy a$$ punk! You and all your Mustink butt-buddies should have stayed in the closet! You can all go pull your own ( or each others) wee-wee's, leave ours alone! Then again if all I had to drive was a Mustink, I too would be searching as you are, for another way to find my thrills.
07-01-2005, 02:47 PM
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I am on the mustang sites alot(mach1 registry).Not one time have i said anything about vette vs mustang or cobra vs what the f@ck ever.Is it me or are vette owners just happy to own there car enough,to not go talking smack on other forums.Sure there is the occasional punk who doesnt deserve the shoes he has on and gets a vette but hey are minimal compared to most genres of autos.
Most mustang owners think that vette owners are self rightous,pretentious,middle aged,mid-life crisis,******.
Most of my friends that own vettes are under 30 and dont make 40,000 a year.We dont care what cars we can beat,we have fun with our cars.We appreciate the heritage of the corvette,as it is the original american sportscar.
The people who buy cobras for the bang for the buck feature,for the most part,arent driving it because its a mustang.The real mustang owners drive them because of the cars past and heritage.These are the mustang owners you can have an actual conversation with about automobiles.No "mines faster and cheaper".
If the thread starter was genuine,then welcome to the site but please,lets(myself included) talk about vettes.
Most mustang owners think that vette owners are self rightous,pretentious,middle aged,mid-life crisis,******.
Most of my friends that own vettes are under 30 and dont make 40,000 a year.We dont care what cars we can beat,we have fun with our cars.We appreciate the heritage of the corvette,as it is the original american sportscar.
The people who buy cobras for the bang for the buck feature,for the most part,arent driving it because its a mustang.The real mustang owners drive them because of the cars past and heritage.These are the mustang owners you can have an actual conversation with about automobiles.No "mines faster and cheaper".
If the thread starter was genuine,then welcome to the site but please,lets(myself included) talk about vettes.