Billdog350

On my 1997 my TC works flawlessly, even with ~410rwhp...but I haven't changed my gearing at all...possibly why it still works properly. I can imagine gearing causing an issue with TC if the ECU isn't properly recalibrated for it (just the speedo might not be enough!).

I have gotten in a few situations on purpose and the TC brings me back STRAIGHT every time...the only way it goes the other way is if I try to correct (steer into the slide).....

LF97C5Vette

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Dan

rgtkst

i try not to do spins with the TCS on. does not feel right, and feels as though its gonna break itself attempting to correct the wheel spin. mine is a 2000 cpe. the wet weather is the only time it kicks in, and not too often. maybe that is not a great yr for it??? i do not have active handleing. but when ya turn off that TCS. YEEEEHHAAAA!!!!! it can be fun. and very controllable

VET IT B

I have a 2000 Vert with AH and Traction control. When I first got her I took it out behind the local mall when there was a ice cover and just a light snow dust over it. I was able to feel what the AH and TC felt like at low speeds.

I like to drive in Competitive Mode, it seams I have the best feel and control of the car in that mode. I know that on ice the AH will behave different than on a dry road slide, but it did give me a feel of what to expect. Mark

Alcee1

I would tend to agree, alot of people think they are turning into the slide when in fact they are turning into the curb. Just a thought.....

If your wheels are straight to begin with, then when the car starts to fishtail and you turn your wheels, they are not straight anymore. In fact they are pointing towards the curb, then when the back end of your car corrects itself now you are shooting towards said curb....meaning you have to then correct that by turning in the other direction,,,hhhmmmm I see a problem developing...im thinking that if the wheels were kept straight then the car would correct itself and not fishtail at all.

basshed

This is my experience with the few corvette's I've driven. I let the TCS kick in first, then drive out of it. Well explained!

Matt

LF97C5Vette

The problem i noticed with that was TCS seems a little slow to react in the cases i tried. I could get committed to a pretty insane drift before the TCS intervened and when it finally did kick in it's response was so strong that it made it very difficult to maintain control of the vehicle. Most of the time i would pull through fine, but sometimes it was such an intense reaction I was helpless to prevent the spinout.

But w/ TCS off i didn't spin out once, and i got into some pretty gnarley drifts!! LOL (Water + GY RunCraps = Driftoooooo!!!! LOL)


Dan

Kevin G

My 2000 TC is very aggressive in a straight line, but I think it has only kicked in once or twice when sliding the tail end very sideways. This is a TC-only car, no AH.

vette1111

"4.10 gears and GY RunCraps"
I think you said it all in your first post.
Your not running the same size tires all around are you?........or did I miss something?

LF97C5Vette

I have the factory Tire and Dimensions all the way around. And yeah i think you nailed the problem on the head as far as breaking the tires loose goes... GY RunCraps + 4.10s is definately not good. But all my experiments with these tires are only expediting the process of me getting new ones!

As stated its also a TC only car... no AH. 1997 folks.


Dan

korte

Get rid of the runcraps.

burbleflyer

This describes exactly what happened to me when I did a fast lane change to avoid getting t-boned by a car entering the road. My car got way out of shape and did a 180 just like you described.

It happened on a regular two lane road and my car never left the road as I swerved left then right, then the back end passed the front with the right wheels only leaving the road by a foot.

It happened so fast I don't know what the TC was doing at the time but what you describe is what happened to me exactly. I certainly don't feel the inputs I put into the car should have made it happen but I chalked it up to overeacting on my part. Now I'm not so sure.

Just so you know, I'm from Canada and learned to drive in snow. I could drive my Trans Am down the road sideways changing sides for miles but the Vette suprised me.

basshed

Which is why I want a more recent car, personally. I found the later years to be better software-tuned as others have mentioned. I definitely respect that it probably could come on sooner, softer in the earlier cars. Hence why I'm still holding out for the right car with the AH as well as the TCS....

Matt

c5_alive

I usually drive with it off

LF97C5Vette

See - This is actually my 2nd time spinning out. The first time i was cornering - on the throttle, and got into some oversteer, and when it kicked back around I chalked it up to 'cold tires, my over reation etc.' But when it happened again (the incident described in my 1st post - both spinouts about 8-10 months apart) I was confident I didn't cause the car to get that out of control. Thats when i started experimenting with the TCS on and Off in a parking lot!

And now that i think about it - the ONLY time i've spun out in an Autocross event was with TCS ON! But when it happened I just assumed that i was pushing it too hard because i was confident TCS would help me. But in retrospect, I may not have been pushing too hard at all, the TCS may have compounded a situation by overcorrecting for oversteer...

I'm not sure what others think about it - or how much if any experimenting folks have done. But from my experience I don't really like the TCS on my car... I leave it on... but I don't trust it for s**t...



Dan

$$$frumnuttin'

I think if you limited your question to 97s you could have eliminated 80% of the replies here. The mere fact that GM came out with a GEN II version indicates those of us who have 97s were the guinea pigs for an inadequate design. I believe there is a design flaw in the early systems. To answer your question, no, I do not think it is safe.

jbauch357

Well I think the first is a possiblity, but the later is more likely the issue.

You get a car that is used to being able to bob and weave back and fourth with shocks actively working to keep the tires on the road - then disable the brains in the shocks and see what happens. TCS kicks in, shocks don't react as planned and you are now backwards on Pac Ave...

Just a guess, like I said I want to see how the car handles with the new suspension. And how long have I been saying you are never going to hook up with power adders, gears and crappy stock run-flat tires...