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Old 11-24-2007, 06:42 PM
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Does anyone have any experience with or opinions of the ZMax fuel and oil additives I have SEEN advertised all day long on the Speed Channel?

Pros/Cons? Anything?

And thank God Truck U is over and American Muscle Car is on now.

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DUH...I left the word "seen" out of my question about ZMAX. Maybe it makes sense now.

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Old 11-25-2007, 01:29 PM
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lol... I saw all those advertisements too. Very convincing and I am interested in what others would have to say.

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Snake oil IMO, but what do I know.
Old 11-25-2007, 01:49 PM
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:52 PM
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Doesnt work. The only additive that works is Slick 50.
Old 11-25-2007, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by redcorvette96
Doesnt work. The only additive that works is Slick 50.
Do you add Slick 50 to your Mobil 1?
Old 11-25-2007, 03:26 PM
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Hey, if Carrol Shelby endorses it, it's gotta be good, right?

I'll stick with what GM recommends: DO NOT PUT ADDITIVES IN YOUR OIL!
Old 11-25-2007, 03:58 PM
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I had the same question. Trusting Carroll's endorsement, I added Z-Max with my last oil change about a month ago. Also a bottle of the gas treatment in the tank.
I haven't noticed any real difference, but I figure it can only help, not hurt. My '01 has only 38,000 miles, but is is 6 years old, and, if the stuff works, it should extend the life of the internal parts.
Old 11-25-2007, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by redcorvette96
Doesnt work. The only additive that works is Slick 50.
Used slick 50 in a new truck I bought a few years ago,the needle in temp gauge would never get into the normal range until It got about 40.000 miles on it, at 50.000 I put in another round of the stuff and the needle never got back into the normal range again,Thats how slick 50 works no friction,no excess heat bulid up. good stuff.
Old 11-25-2007, 04:13 PM
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Can Anyone spell " SNAKE OIL". The engineers who test this stuff are paid by the manufacturer,even Carroll Shelby gets some too. Stay with GM recommendations.
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It is not snake oil, the FTC sued the makers and they had to settle out of court with them. The claims that they were making were mostly true. Here is something from their website

zMAX was developed in 1947 by Joe Lencki as Speedway Cocktail. Sold to the racing industry and car dealerships since it development, it has been marketed as zMAX since1989. AVBLEND, the zMAX formula for aviation, is FAA approved for all piston driven aircraft and has been available since 1980.

If the FAA lets people put it in airplanes it should work for us.
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I saw them also on 'Trucks' or 'TruckU' i forget the exact name (on SpeedTV) with a pretty detailed demo on how/why this stuff works, although i really wasn't convinced of the stuff you would put in the oil, i might try the gas additive to clean injector's and intake valves( i do on ocassion use Techron).
It's just putting additive in the oil or trans which they have also is something im not convinced of, i believe that Mobil 1 does the job along with 6,000 mile changes and yearly oil analysis from Blackstone Labs. JMO.

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Do not add any kind of additive to your oil. I work for Chevron and have spoken to some experts in the field that do lubrication. All of them say the samething. When adding additives to oil, this causes the protectants in the oil to attack the oil additive instead of protecting your engine being that the oil does not know what the additive is. Also most oils will have a brake down when the chemicals in the oil join with the chemicals in the additive causing a breakdown of the molecules.
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Originally Posted by redcorvette96
Doesnt work. The only additive that works is Slick 50.




Just in case you were serious, http://skepdic.com/slick50.html
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Originally Posted by 427435



Just in case you were serious, http://skepdic.com/slick50.html
I would agree with the article. I read several resources that have made the same comments.
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Originally Posted by 427435



Just in case you were serious, http://skepdic.com/slick50.html
Not to mention the production of PTFE and the product itself has been associated with carninogenic risk.
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My dad puts that stuff in all his cars, RV, boat, lawn mower even. Nothing bad has happen as a result of using it. Not sure if it does any good either.

I had a 95 Civic my dad had put Zmax in, that was stolen and got some damage. The thermostat had got broken, which I didn't realize until I was driving it home from the tow yard it was held at. After I got off the freeway, about 2 miles away from my house, the temp gauge was pegged! I was so close to home I just bit the bullet and drove it home. It was hot!! I had it towed to my mechanic, and he said the head should have warped or some sort of damage, but there was none.

Could've been the Zmax, could've been nothing.

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read the article, only thing they got wrong is about ZINC.....the reason you need it is for older vehicles with flat tappet cams and this is mandatory for proper wear...this means not rollar type cams. Diseals also need it...the reason it has been reduced in newer oils is due to EMI SSIONS not because it is not needed.
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One of the main ingrediants in ZMax is Ether.....can't figure out how that reduces friction....The only additive I trust is Lucas pure synthetic. But with M1 doing such a good job that we see LS based cars & trks w/200-300,000 miles on them still going strong & when we pull some apart w/super high milage and see almost no cylender wear....why add anything?
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Originally Posted by TLewis4095
One of the main ingrediants in ZMax is Ether.....can't figure out how that reduces friction....The only additive I trust is Lucas pure synthetic. But with M1 doing such a good job that we see LS based cars & trks w/200-300,000 miles on them still going strong & when we pull some apart w/super high milage and see almost no cylender wear....why add anything?
Yeah, but just think of all the people you would put out of work if nobody bought any of this snake oil !!


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