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Old 04-11-2008, 01:48 AM
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How To Fit Heated Seats to a Corvette C5

Those of us who drive convertibles know only too well that on a sunny Winter’s day there’s nothing better than to drop the roof, wrap up warm and take off for a drive. Even so, even the hardiest of us would like that little touch of luxury that comes with heated seats. Fitting them to the C5 is an easy mod that’s well within the capabilities of the average DIY’er.

What You’ll need:

A heated seat kit
Basic Tools
A Dremel
Shears (to cut the heater pads)

The Fit

I bought my kit from Sports Imports. They have a good range and I went for the Universal Model (Product Code SIL-01) which at the time cost $160. It was particularly good because the element design allows you to trim the pads to fit the seat without damaging any of the electrical elements. Some kits have to be fitted as they are as you’d break the circuit if you trim the pad. Make sure you know which pad you’ve bought. The kit came with very clear installation instructions and included a 9” x 18” back pad, a 9” x 18” seat pad, an electronic temperature control module, two dual temperature (high/low) two-colour illuminated round switches and cable ties and insulating tape.

First disconnect the battery. Make sure you can reactivate your radio if you have the security feature set or, better still, deactivate the security feature before you start. If you forget, there are instructions online on the Corvette Forum on how to solve this problem.

The kit comes with a good wiring diagram which shows how to connect up the leads and gives you a good idea of the overall scope of the modification.


The Wiring Diagram Which Comes With The Kit

Next you need to take out both seats. This sounds much worse than it really is. All you need to do is unhook the electrical connections under the seats and remove the main bolts. There are great instructions on the Vette Essentials Website online and I’ve included a link below. Follow the Vette Essentials instructions to step 17c but stop before removing the bottom covers as you can fit the heating pads with the covers still on the seats. Next, work the Velcro fastening loose inside the seat covers. This fastening sculpts the stock seat cover so you’ll lose this definition with the pads in place. A small price to pay. Take care because the Velcro hooks are very sharp. Work out the size of heating pads you want and trim the pads to size using some shears. Slide the lower seat pad into the gap between the seat cover and the foam pad and route the wires out of the back of the seat. My kit was adhesive backed to hold the elements in place. There are connectors on the wiring harness which allow you to connect to the rest of the wiring loom later. Fit the back pad element into place and replace the seat cover by reversing the Vette Essentials instructions.

Next step is to remove the console. Again follow the Vette Essentials instructions to step 3 to allow you to run the wires forward underneath the console to the switch mounting position. You may feel you can route the wires without completely stripping the console out. I found it easier to work with the console out of the car and there was less risk of a pinched wire. Run the wiring harness to the ashtray area from the rear of the console making sure you leave enough wire at the rear to connect to the seat/heater looms. Run the live wire under the edge of the console area and down into the passenger footwell to emerge next to the lower fuse panel. This is a bit fiddly so I used a wire coat hanger to thread the wire down behind the dash trim panel. An alternative would be to route it directly under the carpet from the rear of the seats to the passenger footwell.

Now we need to fit the switches and you have two choices where to mount them. If your car doesn’t have the selective ride control switch you could mount them on the active handling panel. The advantage here is that they are easily accessible and look very neat. The down side is that you need to trim a section of the circuit board which sits behind the AH panel to give enough room for the switches. It’s not for the faint hearted and there could be tears!

The hole you need for mounting the switches is about the size of a US 5 cent piece or a Brit Penny. Check the size before you cut plastic. A tiny piece of double sided tape will hold them in place while you mark the panel. Best advice is to start smaller than you need and slowly enlarge the hole until you get a tight fit. If you have a Dremel, drill a tiny 1/2" diameter hole using the sanding drum. You can see from this picture that the back side of the AH plate is very busy. There’s considerable trial and error trimming to get the circuit board to clear the switches although none of it is visible once the panel is refitted. Make sure you don’t cut something important in the process.


The Switches Mounted on the Active Handling Panel

The safer option is to fit them as I did in the ashtray unit. Dismantle the ashtray unit. The outer door which is fitted to the console bezel will cover the switches once you’ve finished the fit. Remove the inner door of the ashtray. You could use this to mount the switches as it fits the hole perfectly. If you do, be very careful as you drill the material as it’s very brittle. Cut a slot in the rear side of the ashtray mount using a hacksaw or Dremel cutting wheel. This allows the wires and connectors to route out from the switches. Again be very careful as you cut as the Bakelite material is brittle and easily broken.



The Switches Mounted in the Ashtray

I used a small black plastic faceplate to mount the switches. Drill two holes (5/8”) for the switches to sit snug on the plate. Pull the main wiring connector through the hole and attach it to the switch. Fit the switch snug in the hole until it clicks in place then fit the faceplate into the ashtray and screw in from the sides to hold it in place.


The Switches in Place on the Panel

Reassemble the console taking care not to pinch any wires. Pull the wires through the ashtray hole. Connect to the switches. Slot the ashtray back into place. This is how the switches should look once they are mounted.


The Final Switch Installation

Reinstall the seats leaving access to the wires which are protruding from behind the seat base. Connect those wires to the main harness connectors and secure the wires to the carpet if you feel the need.

Next we need to hook up the power by connecting the live red wire to a switched power supply. Again there are 2 choices. You can buy spade type connectors from the Company who sell the seats which splice onto the power lead and will slot directly into a spare fuse slot in the fuse panel in the footwell (Add-a-Tap). You can see from this picture a wire attached to fuse number 22.



Alternatively you can hook up at a spare connector in the passenger footwell. Pull out the cover and look in the top left corner above the computer module. There’s a small plug with three wires (orange, yellow, & black) that are taped up. The yellow wire is the +12V switched supply. Splice into that using an online electrical connector.



Connecting to the Footwell Switched Power Supply

Next you need to ground the installation. Connect the ground wire to a suitable ground point. The grounds can be tied together on one ring lug and grounded under a 10mm screw. I ran through the bulkhead to the ground behind the passenger headlight. This is fiddly and you need to thread the wire through the bulkhead through the firewall behind the battery. You need to remove the battery to get access if you choose this option.


Bulkhead Earthing Point

Much easier is to use one of the other grounds nearby. One is located under the bulge of rug found beneath the dash panel on the passenger side. It’s that little overhang of carpeting located just off to the left-bottom corner of the glovebox.


Glovebox Earthing Point

All that leaves you to do is reconnect the battery and test the seats. There are two settings low and high. Low is toasty and High is a definite “Bottom Burner”!

All in all this is a fairly straight forward modification but I have to say, on a cold day it’s one of my all time favourites

I used some pictures provided by members over the years. if your pic is there I hope you dont mind me using it

Internet Links:

Heated Seat Kit from Sports Imports:

http://www.seatheater-heatedseats.co...OVMTC=standard

How to Remove the Seats:

http://www.vetteessentials.com/instr...er_change.html
How To Remove the Console:

http://www.vetteessentials.com/instr...t_install.html

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sweeeeeeeeet writeup dave! i'll definately be using it when it comes time to put in my seat heaters.

question though, do you think this "upgraded" seat switch is worth it? i found it while looking on the sports imports website; specifically under the "Premium Licensed Car Seat Heater Kit - Model Specific" page.






A new generation LED ultra thin membrane switch regulates temperature settings and provides diagnostic feedback. The 1/16” switch has a peel and stick backing for easier installation in a wider variety of locations.



Order Single Membrane includes 1 single Membrane Switch for easy placement in the Center Console or Instrument Panel.

Order Dual Membrane includes 1 Dual Membrane Switch for easy placement in the Center Console or Instrument Panel with 1 power harness for 2 Seats.

Order Twin Membrane for 2 Single Seat Heater Kits with 2 Single Switches and 1 Power Harness.



and finally the regular-type switch.

Order Classic (Single or Dual) Three Temperature Hi-Med-Lo switch seat heater for installation in the seat trim.
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Jason, it looks like the switch gives multiple power settings. If so it would be worth the $$ because my switch only has low or high. Even low is too warm after a while and I tend to turn it off when it gets too warm. A variable setting would be great.
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Another fine production by "da' man", DeeGee himself!

Great write up (even I can follow it)!
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Originally Posted by Junkman2008
Another fine production by "da' man", DeeGee himself!

Great write up (even I can follow it)!


Awesome info as always.
I don't have a problem with just the hi-low settings, but I can't imagine a big price difference in the variable switches?
I ended up using the actual ashtray door, but the plate that Dave shows is better in some ways.
I love my heated seats!!
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Awesome writeup DeeGee. This will be a big help to those looking to add heated seats to their car.
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I have been wanting to do this mod for a while. I'll have to get off my butt.
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Originally Posted by BrianWe
I have been wanting to do this mod for a while. I'll have to get off my butt.


Put the heaters in, and you won't want to.
You'll love them.
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Great write up!

You can do it without removing the seats if it is sport seats. Search "heated seats" The procedure is there. It is also very easy to remove the seats but why even do that if it is so simple to do it with them in?
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Hi Dave -

You are the best!

Great info.

I have a couple of questions -

Why did you choose the universal kit when they offer a C5 specific kit?

Can you elaborate on the comments you made about giving up some sculpting of the stock seats? Would the model spcific kit solve this problem?

Thanks again - I have enjoyed your many write ups here, keep up the excellent contributions!

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Originally Posted by mqqn
Hi Dave -

Why did you choose the universal kit when they offer a C5 specific kit?

Can you elaborate on the comments you made about giving up some sculpting of the stock seats? Would the model spcific kit solve this problem?

mqqn
Andy, the answer to the first question is that I'm a Yorkshireman and I'm cheap

Seriously, I've had them in for a few years and only just posted up. I really didn't see the C5 specific kits when I was doing the mod. the universal kit does the job and its only a few $$.

Not sure how the model specific kit would help. The velcro runs across the foam and pulls the piping into shape on the seat base. It makes it sit up. The heating pad stops the velcro gripping so the sculpting flattens out. I don't notice but its not quite as "pretty"

Hope that helps
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Originally Posted by minitech
Great write up!

You can do it without removing the seats if it is sport seats. Search "heated seats" The procedure is there. It is also very easy to remove the seats but why even do that if it is so simple to do it with them in?
Absolutely true but taking the seats out is quick and straight forward. I just found it easier. It also helps with running the wires
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Originally Posted by DeeGee
Andy, the answer to the first question is that I'm a Yorkshireman and I'm cheap

Seriously, I've had them in for a few years and only just posted up. I really didn't see the C5 specific kits when I was doing the mod. the universal kit does the job and its only a few $$.

Not sure how the model specific kit would help. The velcro runs across the foam and pulls the piping into shape on the seat base. It makes it sit up. The heating pad stops the velcro gripping so the sculpting flattens out. I don't notice but its not quite as "pretty"

Hope that helps
Yessir - thank you for your reply.

I am not liking the price of the customized kit myself, so perhaps I have some Yorkshireman in me! At least I know i have some bitters in me lol.

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Dave, please stop writing these great, informative posts. Because every time I read one it ends up costing me about $160 and the better part of a Saturday...
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Dave, please stop writing these great, informative posts. Because every time I read one it ends up costing me about $160 and the better part of a Saturday...
But think how much nicer the ride will be on a cold day on the East Coast
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But think how much nicer the ride will be on a cold day on the East Coast
It's a double-edged sword... I put heated seats in, and then all of a sudden my wife is going to want to be a part of my early saturday morning vette runs... no more alone time!
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It's a double-edged sword... I put heated seats in, and then all of a sudden my wife is going to want to be a part of my early saturday morning vette runs... no more alone time!


You have to take the good with the bad.
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I can't see the pics rom work, but looks like a great write up and something that I was considering doing. Thanks for the write up..I'm sure it will be useful if I decide to do it


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