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Old 07-12-2009, 03:04 PM
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Here's the deal,
99 m6

Driving locally all day long, I make a left from a stop sign and launched it really hard, hit about 4500 RPM in first and the car bucked real hard (like I either hit the rev limiter or the car ran out of fuel) and died. Coasted to side of the road and it would just crank. Nothing else.

Troubleshoot:
OK no codes when i turn the key on; I checked all the relays/fuses under the hood and I hear the fuel pump turning on when I turn the key to the on position; The car has a 1/4 tank of fuel.

Maybe no spark???

What do you guys think? Any help appreciated. Even if I mentioned it above tell me what I should be looking for and I will troubleshoot again.

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Originally Posted by 99c5htp
Here's the deal,
99 m6

Driving locally all day long, I make a left from a stop sign and launched it really hard, hit about 4500 RPM in first and the car bucked real hard (like I either hit the rev limiter or the car ran out of fuel) and died. Coasted to side of the road and it would just crank. Nothing else.

Troubleshoot:
OK no codes when i turn the key on; I checked all the relays/fuses under the hood and I hear the fuel pump turning on when I turn the key to the on position; The car has a 1/4 tank of fuel.

Maybe no spark???

What do you guys think? Any help appreciated. Even if I mentioned it above tell me what I should be looking for and I will troubleshoot again.
Would it NOT crank or would it crank and not start?
Old 07-12-2009, 03:17 PM
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Sorry for not explaining that more clearly. It cranks but does not start. Hold the key and it just keeps cranking.
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Originally Posted by 99c5htp
Sorry for not explaining that more clearly. It cranks but does not start. Hold the key and it just keeps cranking.
Disconnect battery for about 10 mins. Then try ot again.
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Disconnect battery for about 10 mins. Then try ot again.

Will do. I just pulled the positive terminal off the battery.
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How does the cranking sound?? Like normal or does it sound like it's just free wheeling in there? Have you verified valvetrain movement (had someone look into the oil cap hole while cranking to verify valves are moving?)???
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How does the cranking sound?? Like normal or does it sound like it's just free wheeling in there? Have you verified valvetrain movement (had someone look into the oil cap hole while cranking to verify valves are moving?)???

I have not verified valvetrain movement. I have never had experience with this motor to know whether or not the cranking sounds normal. I'm going to go and crank the car verify valvetrain movement. what will verifying this determine or not determine? (bear with me guys just trying to learn)
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Originally Posted by 99c5htp
I have not verified valvetrain movement. I have never had experience with this motor to know whether or not the cranking sounds normal. I'm going to go and crank the car verify valvetrain movement. what will verifying this determine or not determine? (bear with me guys just trying to learn)
Tell you if you you broke the timing chain or thereabouts.
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Originally Posted by Fastbird
Tell you if you you broke the timing chain or thereabouts.

I'll be breaking more then that if that's potentially the case.

This car only has less then 40K on it. I hope not. I'm going to crank it in a few mins.
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Originally Posted by 99c5htp

I'll be breaking more then that if that's potentially the case.

This car only has less then 40K on it. I hope not. I'm going to crank it in a few mins.
Pull the codes from the DIC
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Originally Posted by ajg1915
Pull the codes from the DIC
He said NO codes
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Originally Posted by Vega$Vette
He said NO codes
No codes when he turned the key on, not when you actually check for them ?

Make sure you have the door shut.

The "diagnostic display" mode is entered with the following procedure:
1. Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine.
2. Press the "reset" button to turn off any warning messages
3. Press and hold "options" and
4. While holding "options", press "fuel" four times within a 10-second period.
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Originally Posted by ajg1915
No codes when he turned the key on, not when you actually check for them ?

Make sure you have the door shut.

The "diagnostic display" mode is entered with the following procedure:
1. Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine.
2. Press the "reset" button to turn off any warning messages
3. Press and hold "options" and
4. While holding "options", press "fuel" four times within a 10-second period.
OK I assumed he had done that Guess probably not
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OK,
Valvetrain is moving.

Codes from DIC: (if not listed it showed NO CODES)

10 PCM:
P0108H
P1518H

AO-LDCM:
B2252H
B2202H
B2282H
B2284H
V1064H
V1096H

A1-RDCM
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Not sure what this all means...but..

0 PCM:

P0108H - P0108 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage

P1518H - P1518 Throttle Actuator Control (TAC) Module Serial Data Circuit

AO-LDCM:

B2252H - B2252 Key Cylinder Switch Circuit


B2202H - B2202 Left Window Up Switch Circuit

B2282H - B2282 Battery #1 Circuit

B2284H - B2284 Battery #2 Circuit

V1064H - U1064 Loss of Communications with BCM

V1096H - U1096 Loss of Communications with IPC


A1-RDCM

NO COMM.
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Hope she gets running!
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Do you have fuel pressure?

Did you pull a spark plug and see if it is actually getting spark?

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Do you have fuel pressure?

Did you pull a spark plug and see if it is actually getting spark?

I'm assuming I have fuel pressure because the fuel pumps are humming under the car when I turn the car on but I can't be completely sure. I really don't want to start opening the fuel system yet though and I don't have the necessary equipment to diagnose the fuel system properly.

The car shutoff abruptly while accelerating so I'm little baffled at this point.

I have not pulled the spark plugs to see if I have spark yet. I was hoping it was something simple.

My original thought was the car just shut down to protect itself and something needs to be reset on the car. Idk, it's just not making sense to me right now.
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Originally Posted by 99c5htp
I'm assuming I have fuel pressure because the fuel pumps are humming under the car when I turn the car on but I can't be completely sure. I really don't want to start opening the fuel system yet though and I don't have the necessary equipment to diagnose the fuel system properly.

The car shutoff abruptly while accelerating so I'm little baffled at this point.

I have not pulled the spark plugs to see if I have spark yet. I was hoping it was something simple.

My original thought was the car just shut down to protect itself and something needs to be reset on the car. Idk, it's just not making sense to me right now.
It can go into a limp mode but after resetting the system should have been back up and running.
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Originally Posted by 99c5htp
I'm assuming I have fuel pressure because the fuel pumps are humming under the car when I turn the car on but I can't be completely sure. I really don't want to start opening the fuel system yet though and I don't have the necessary equipment to diagnose the fuel system properly.

The car shutoff abruptly while accelerating so I'm little baffled at this point.

I have not pulled the spark plugs to see if I have spark yet. I was hoping it was something simple.

My original thought was the car just shut down to protect itself and something needs to be reset on the car. Idk, it's just not making sense to me right now.

Pumps humming does NOT guarantee fuel pressure-check the BASICS 1st, fuel and SPARK.


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