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Old 09-23-2009, 01:18 AM
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My Check Engine light came on, so I took at look at the error codes and found two:

10-PCM P0171 HC
10-PCM PO174 H

How do I figure out what those codes mean?

Related (maybe) question: I have been having problems with false Low Fuel warnings. Based on the advice in another thread (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...k-sensors.html) I've added Techron to the last 2 fill ups. AFAIK Check Engine is suppose to be related to a possible emissions problem. Could the Check Engine light be caused by the Techron?
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The false low fuel warnings is common amoung c5's, happens to me all the time. My check engine light just came on as well and the book says it has to do with emissions. But after a beer and deductive reasoning, I came up with: 1. My engine oil life is at 14%, I've never let it get that low so that might be it. 2. I put 91 octane at a sh*tty off brand gas station, I usually go to sunoco, but they didnt have 93 and I was in the middle of no where. 3. It really is an emissions problem and if an oil change and/or good fresh 93 doesn't do the trick, I guess it's time for a trip to the stealership. As for your question about the techron, I don't see why adding that would cause a problem, but I may be wrong. Other than that, sit down with a cold one and think, worked for me lol
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Originally Posted by tangoloco
My Check Engine light came on, so I took at look at the error codes and found two:

10-PCM P0171 HC
10-PCM PO174 H

How do I figure out what those codes mean?

Related (maybe) question: I have been having problems with false Low Fuel warnings. Based on the advice in another thread (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...k-sensors.html) I've added Techron to the last 2 fill ups. AFAIK Check Engine is suppose to be related to a possible emissions problem. Could the Check Engine light be caused by the Techron?
The P0171 and 174 may be legitimate problems. They could be caused by vacuum or exhaust leaks, bad grounds, or although doubtful, bad 02 sensors. You never see them both go bad at the same time unless they got contaminated by something.

You need to find a good tuner to plug into the car and look at the 02's in action. You say he added fuel, but those codes are for a lean condition, so it doesn't make sense that your tuner did anything wrong. The car has a base fuel map and then uses the sensors for feedback and to decide what adjustments to make from that base fuel map. These adjustments are called fuel trim cells. There are short and long term trims. If the fuel trims are too high in one direction or the other, the PCM will throw a code. If the car was fine for a long time after the tune and all of the sudden started throwing these codes, your problem is most likely somewhere other than the tune.

Thanks,Matt
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CODE LIST

10-PCM - Powertrain Control Module 
P0101 Mass Air Flow (MAF) System Performance 
P0102 Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor Circuit Low Frequency 
P0103 Mass Air Flow (MAF) Sensor Circuit High Frequency 
P0107 Manifold Pressure (MAP) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage 
P0108 Manifold Pressure (MAP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage 
P0112 Intake Air Temp (IAT) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage 
P0113 Intake Air Temp (IAT) Sensor Circuit High Voltage 
P0117 Engine Coolant Temp (ECT) Sensor Low Voltage 
P0118 Engine Coolant Temp (ECT) Sensor High Voltage 
P0118 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Excessive Time to Closed Loop Fuel Control 
P0131 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Low Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 1 
P0132 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit High Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 1 
P0133 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Slow Response Bank 1 Sensor 1 
P0134 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Insufficient Activity Bank 1 Sensor 1 
P0135 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 1 
P0137 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Low Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 2 
P0138 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit High Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 2 
P0140 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Insufficient Activity Bank 1 Sensor 2 
P0141 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 2 
P0151 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Low Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1 
P0152 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit High Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1 
P0153 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Slow Response Bank 2 Sensor 1 
P0154 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Insufficient Activity Bank 2 Sensor 1 
P0155 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater Circuit Bank 2 Sensor 1 
P0157 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Low Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 2 
P0158 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit High Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 2 
P0160 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Insufficient Activity Bank 2 Sensor 2 
P0161 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater Circuit Bank 2 Sensor 2 
P0171 Fuel Trim System Lean Bank 1 
P0172 Fuel Trim System Rich Bank 1 
P0174 Fuel Trim System Lean Bank 2 
P0175 Fuel Trim System Rich Bank 2 
P0230 Fuel Pump Control Circuit 
P0300 Engine Misfire Detected 
P0325 Knock Sensor (KS) System 
P0327 Knock Sensor (KS) Circuit Front 
P0332 Knock Sensor (KS) Circuit Rear 
P0335 CKP Sensor Circuit 
P0336 CKP Sensor Circuit Performance 
P0341 CMP Circuit Performance 
P0342 CMP Sensor Circuit Low Voltage 
P0343 CMP Sensor Circuit High Voltage 
P0351 Ignition Control #1 Circuit 
P0352 Ignition Control #2 Circuit 
P0353 Ignition Control #3 Circuit 
P0354 Ignition Control #4 Circuit 
P0355 Ignition Control #5 Circuit 
P0356 Ignition Control #6 Circuit 
P0357 Ignition Control #7 Circuit 
P0358 Ignition Control #8 Circuit 
P0410 AIR System 
P0412 AIR Solenoid Relay Control Circuit 
P0418 AIR Pump Relay Control Circuit 
P0420 TWC System Low Efficiency Bank 1 
P0430 TWC System Low Efficiency Bank 2 
P0441 EVAP System No Flow During Purge 
P0461 Fuel Level Sensor 1 Circuit Performance 
P0462 Fuel Level Sensor 1 Circuit Low Voltage 
P0463 Fuel Level Sensor 1 Circuit High Voltage 
P0480 FC Relay 1 Control Circuit 
P0481 FC Relay 2 and 3 Control Circuit 
P0500 VSS Circuit (M/T) 
P0506 Idle Speed Low 
P0507 Idle Speed High 
P0522 Engine Oil Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Voltage 
P0523 Engine Oil Pressure Sensor Circuit High Voltage 
P0530 A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Circuit 
P0562 System Voltage Low 
P0563 System Voltage High 
P0567 Cruise Resume Circuit 
P0568 Cruise Set Circuit 
P0571 Cruise Brake Switch Circuit (M/T) 
P0601 PCM Memory 
P0602 PCM Not Programmed 
P0604 PCM RAM Performance 
P0606 PCM Internal Communication Interrupted 
P0608 VSS Output Circuit 
P0650 MIL Control Circuit 
P0654 Engine Speed Output Circuit 
P0704 Clutch Switch Circuit (M/T) 
P0705 Transmission Range Switch Circuit (A/T) 
P0706 Transmission Range Switch Performance (A/T) 
P0801 Reverse Inhibit Solenoid Control Circuit (M/T) 
P0803 1-4 Upshift Solenoid Control Circuit (M/T) 
P0804 1-4 Upshift Lamp Control Circuit (M/T) 
P1111 Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor Circuit Intermittent High Voltage 
P1112 Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor Circuit Intermittent Low Voltage 
P1114 ECT Sensor Circuit Intermittent Low Voltage 
P1115 ECT Sensor Circuit Intermittent High Voltage 
P1120 TP Sensor 1 Circuit 
P1125 APP System 
P1133 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Insufficient Switching Bank 1 Sensor 1 
P1134 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Transition Time Ratio Bank 1 Sensor 1 
P1153 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Insufficient Switching Bank 2 Sensor 1 
P1154 Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Transition Time Ratio Bank 2 Sensor 1 
P1220 TP Sensor 2 Circuit 
P1221 TP Sensors 1, 2 Performance 
P1258 Engine Coolant Over Temperature-Fuel Disabled 
P1275 APP Sensor 1 Circuit 
P1276 APP Sensor 1 Circuit Performance 
P1280 APP Sensor 2 Circuit 
P1281 APP Sensor 2 Circuit Performance 
P1285 APP Sensor 3 Circuit 
P1286 APP Sensor 3 Circuit Performance 
P1380 EB (T) CM DTC Detected- Rough Road Data Unusable 
P1381 Misfire Detected - No EB (T) CM/PCM Serial Data 
P1415 AIR System Bank 1 
P1416 AIR System Bank 2 
P1431 Fuel Level Sensor 2 Circuit Performance 
P1432 Fuel Level Sensor 2 Low Voltage 
P1433 Fuel Level Sensor 2 High Voltage 
P1441 Evaporative Emissions (EVAP) System Flow During Non-Purge 
P1514 TAC System MAF Performance 
P1515 Command vs Actual Throttle Position Performance (PCM Module) 
P1516 Command vs Actual Throttle Position Performance (TAC Module) 
P1517 TAC Module Processor 
P1518 PCM to TAC Module Serial Data Circuit 
P1539 A/C Clutch Status Circuit High Voltage 
P1545 A/C Clutch Relay Control Circuit 
P1546 A/C Clutch Status Circuit Low Voltage 
P1571 ASR Desired Torque 
P1574 Stop Lamp Control Circuit 
P1575 Extended Travel Brake Switch Circuit High Voltage 
P1626 Theft Deterrent System Fuel Enable Circuit 
P1630 Theft Deterrent System PCM In Learn Mode 
P1631 Theft Deterrent System Password Incorrect 
P1635 5 Volt Reference #1 Circuit 
P1639 5 Volt Reference #2 Circuit 
P1644 Delivered Torque Output Circuit 
P1652 Powertrain Induced Chassis Pitch Output Circuit 

28-TCS - Traction Control System 
C1214 Sol Valve Relay Contact or Coil CKT Open 
C1217 BPMV Pump Motor Relay Contact CKT Open 
C1221 LF Wheel Speed Sensor Input Signal is 0 
C1222 RF Wheel Speed Sensor Input Signal is 0 
C1223 LR Wheel Speed Sensor Input Signal is 0 
C1224 RR Wheel Speed Sensor Input Signal is 0 
C1225 RF Excessive Wheel Speed Variation 
C1226 LF Excessive Wheel Speed Variation 
C1227 LR Excessive Wheel Speed Variation 
C1228 RR Excessive Wheel Speed Variation 
C1232 LF Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted 
C1233 RF Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted 
C1234 LR Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted 
C1235 RR Wheel Speed Circuit Open or Shorted 
C1236 Low System Supply Voltage 
C1237 High System Supply Voltage 
C1241 Magna Steer Circuit Malfunction 
C1242 BPMV Pump Motor Ground Circuit Open 
C1243 BPMV Pump Motor Stalled 
C1255 EBTCM Internal Malfunction 
CEBCM Internal Malfunction 
C1261 LF Inlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction 
C1262 LF Outlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction 
C1263 RF Inlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction 
C1264 RF Outlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction 
C1265 LR Inlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction 
C1266 LR Outlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction 
C1267 RR Inlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction 
C1268 RR Outlet Valve Solenoid Malfunction 
C1273 RF TCS Master Cyl Isolation Valve Malfunction 
C1274 RF TCS Prime Valve Malfunction 
C1276 Delivered Torque Signal CKT Malfunction 
C1277 Requested Torque Signal CKT Malfunction 
C1278 TCS Temporarily Inhibited By PCM 
C1281 Steering Sensor Uncorrelated Malfunction 
C1286 Steering Sensor Bias Malfunction 
C1287 Steering Sensor Rate Malfunction 
C1291 Open Brake Lamp Sw Contacts During Deccel 
C1293 DTC C1291/C1292 Set Curnt/Prev Ign Cylce 
C1294 Brake Lamp Switch Circuit Always Active 
C1295 Brake Lamp Switch Circuit Open 
U1016 Loss of Communications with PCM 
U1255 Generic Loss Communications 
U1300 Class 2 Circuit Shorted to Ground 
U1301 Class 2 Circuit Shorted to Battery 

38-RTD - Real Time Damping 
C1650 ESC Module Malfunction 
C1658 EEPROM Calibration Malfunction 
C1710 LF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to Voltage) 
C1711 LF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to GND) 
C1712 LF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Open Circuit) 
C1715 RF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to Voltage) 
C1716 RF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to GND) 
C1717 RF Shock Absorber Solenoid (Open Circuit) 
C1720 LR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to Voltage) 
C1721 LR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to GND) 
C1722 LR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Open Circuit) 
C1725 RR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to Voltage) 
C1726 RR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Short to GND) 
C1727 RR Shock Absorber Solenoid (Open Circuit) 
C1743 Loss of Vehicle Speed Signal 
C1760 LF Position Sensor (Out of Range) 
C1761 RF Position Sensor (Out of Range) 
C1762 LR Position Sensor (Out of Range) 
C1763 RR Position Sensor (Out of Range) 
C1768 Position Sensor Supply Malfunction (Overcurrent) 
C1780 Loss of Steering Position Signal 
C1786 RTD Control Relay Malfunction 
C1787 RTD Control Relay Circuit (Open or Short to GND) 
C1788 RTD Control Relay Circuit (Short to Voltage) 
C1790 Ride Control Switch (Out of Range) 
C1791 Ride Control Switch (Contact Malfunction) 

40-BCM -Body Control Module 
B0432 Rear Defogger Relay Circuit 
B0433 Rear Defogger Relay Circuit 
B0502 RH DRL Relay Circuit 
B0503 RH DRL Relay Circuit 
B0507 LH DRL Relay Circuit 
B0508 LH DRL Relay Circuit 
B0605 BCM Internal Memory Function 
B0844 BCM Temporarily Inhibit ABS 
B2403 Front Fog Lamp Switch Circuit 
B2408 Rear Fog Lamp Switch Circuit 
B2482 Backup Lamp Relay Circuit 
B2483 Backup Lamp Relay Circuit 
B2527 Horn Relay Circuit 
B2528 Horn Relay Circuit 
B2573 Hatch Release Switch Circuit (Short to Voltage) 
B2578 RF Turn Signal Monitor Circuit (Short to Voltage) 
B2583 LF Turn Signal Monitor Circuit (Short to Voltage) 
B2587 Column Lock/Unlock Drive (A) 
B2588 Column Lock/Unlock Drive (A) 
B2592 Column Lock/Unlock Drive (B) 
B2583 Column Lock/Unlock Drive (B) 
B2597 Traction Control System Switch Circuit 
B2721 PASS-Key Detection Circuit 
B2722 PASS-Key Detection Circuit 
B2723 PASS-Key Detection Circuit 
B2735 PASS-Key Programming Mode Active 
U1016 Loss of Communications with PCM 
U1096 Loss of Communications with IPC 
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction 

60-IPC - Instrument Panel Cluster 
B0516 Speedometer Signal Circuit Malfunction 
B0521 Tachometer Signal Circuit Malfunction 
B1512 DIC Switch 1 Signal Short to GND "FUEL" 
B1517 DIC Switch 2 Signal Short to GND "GAGES" 
B1522 DIC Switch 3 Signal Short to GND "TRIP" 
B1527 DIC Switch 4 Signal Short to GND "OPTIONS" 
B1532 DIC Switch 5 Signal Short to GND "E/M" 
B1537 DIC Switch 6 Signal Short to GND "RESET" 
B1542 Oil Temperature Circuit Short to GND 
B1543 Oil Temperature Circuit Open 
U1016 Loss of Communications with PCM 
U1040 Loss of Communications with TCS 
U1056 Loss of Communications with RTD 
U1064 Loss of Communications with BCM 
U1128 Loss of Communications with Radio 
U1153 Loss of Communications with HVAC 
U1160 Loss of Communications with LDCM 
U1161 Loss of Communications with RDCM 
U1166 Loss of Communications with SCM 
U1176 Loss of Communications with RFA 
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction 

80-Radio - Radio Not Found 

99-HVAC - Heater, Ventilation, Air Conditioning 
B0332 Outside Air Temp Sensor Short to GND 
B0333 Outside Air Temp Sensor Open 
B0337 Inside Air Temp Sensor Short to GND 
B0338 Inside Air Temp Sensor Open 
B0348 Sunload Temperature Sensor Open 
B0361 Left Actuator Feedback Short to GND 
B0363 Left Actuator Feedback Open 
B0365 Right Actuator Feedback Short to GND 
B0367 Right Actuator Feedback Open 
B0441 Left Actuator Out of Range 
B0446 Right Actuator Out of Range 
B1016 Loss of Communications with PCM 
U1064 Loss of Communications with BCM 
U1096 Loss of Communications with IPC 
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction 

A0-LDCM - Left Door Control Module 
B2202 Left Window Up Switch Fault 
B2204 Left Window Down Switch Fault 
B2206 Right Window Up Switch Fault 
B2208 Right Window Down Switch Fault 
B2222 LT Mirror Select Switch Fault 
B2224 RT Mirror Select Switch Fault 
B2226 Mirror Right Switch Fault 
B2228 Mirror Left Switch Fault 
B2232 Mirror Up Switch Fault 
B2234 Mirror Down Switch Fault 
B2236 Left Door Lock Switch Fault 
B2238 Left Door UnLock Switch Fault 
B2242 Memory 1 Switch Fault 
B2244 Memory 2 Switch Fault 
B2252 Key Cylinder Switch Fault 
B2262 Horizontal Position Sensor Fit 
B2264 Vertical Position Sensor Fault 
B2272 Left Mirror Motor Fault 
B2274 Window Motor Fault 
B2276 Door Lock Motor/Mirror Heater Fit 
B2282 Battery #1 Fault 
B2284 Battery #2 Fault 
B2286 +5V Reference Fault 
U1064 Loss of Communications with BCM 
U1096 Loss of Communications with IPC 
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction 

A1-RDCM - Right Door Control Module 
B2203 Right Window Up Switch Fault 
B2205 Right Window Down Switch Fault 
B2237 Right Door Lock Switch Fault 
B2239 Right Door Un-Lock Switch Fault 
B2253 Key Cylinder Switch Fault 
B2263 Horizontal Position Sensor Fit 
B2265 Horizontal Position Sensor Fault 
B2273 Right Mirror Motor Fault 
B2275 Window Motor Fault 
B2277 Door Lock Motor/Mirror Heater Fit 
B2283 Battery #1 Fault 
B2285 Battery #2 Fault 
B2287 +5V Reference Fault 
U1064 Loss of Communications with BCM 
U1096 Loss of Communications with IPC 
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction 

A6-SCM - Seat Control Module 
B0846 Battery 2 Out of Range 
B0851 Battery 1 Out of Range 
B2002 Fore/Aft Seat Motor Open or Short to GND 
B2007 Front Vertical Seat Motor Open or Shorted 
B2012 Rear Vertical Seat Motor Open or Shorted 
B2172 Seat Front Up Switch Shorted to GND 
B2177 Seat Front Down Switch Shorted to GND 
B2182 Seat Rear Up Switch Shorted to GND 
B2187 Seat Rear Down Switch Shorted to GND 
B2192 Seat Forward Switch Shorted to GND 
B2197 Seat Reverse Switch Shorted to GND 
B2605 Seat Front Vertical Position Sensor Failure 
B2606 Seat Rear Vertical Position Sensor Failure 
B2607 Seat Horizontal Position Sensor Failure 

B0-RFA - Remote Function Actuation 
B0605 Receiver Internal Memory Malfunction 
B2805 No Transmitters Programmed 
C2100 Left Front TPM Sensor Malfunction 
C2105 Right Front TPM Sensor Malfunction 
C2110 Right Rear TPM Sensor Malfunction 
C2115 Left Rear TPM Sensor Malfunction 
C2120 TPM System Malfunction (No Sensors Received) 
C2121 TPM System Programming Malfunction (No Sensors Programmed) 
U1000 Loss of Communication Undetermined 
U1016 Loss of Communication with PCM 
U1064 Loss of Communication with BCM 
U1096 Loss of Communication with IPC 
U1255 Serial Data Line Malfunction
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Originally Posted by tangoloco
My Check Engine light came on, so I took at look at the error codes and found two:

10-PCM P0171 HC
10-PCM PO174 H

How do I figure out what those codes mean?

Related (maybe) question: I have been having problems with false Low Fuel warnings. Based on the advice in another thread (http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...k-sensors.html) I've added Techron to the last 2 fill ups. AFAIK Check Engine is suppose to be related to a possible emissions problem. Could the Check Engine light be caused by the Techron?
Your two codes occur sometimes when banging the Rev Limiter. When you repeatedly hit the limiter it leans the fuel out to save the engine..
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This problem only got worse. I decided to clear the codes and wait and see what happened. A couple of days later, the Check Engine light came back on and then the car stalled and I couldn't get it started. The independent repair shop I've been going to tells me that the fuel pumps are bad, and that in order to replace the full pumps they have to pull the tank. Total cost $2700!!!
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The check engine light and the p0171 code came up this morning when I pulled out the garage. I had the car on the lift yesterday to swap swaybars, oil change and fuel filter. I drove the car home lastnight (~ 10 miles) with a stop at Advance Auto and had no codes or check engine light. I bring it out the garage, cruise a 1/4 mile and get the code and the light.

I'm 'guessing' the problem revolves around the fuel filter? When installing the new filter I made sure the area around the filter was clean and the 10mm nut was tight.

BTW: No fuel smell or leak in the garage this morning.

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Anyone ... ?
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My '03 gave those codes for awhile after I installed a certain ram air system. It usually occurred when I accelerated when getting on the interstate. It has not given these codes lately.

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