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Old 12-11-2009, 09:34 PM
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On the request of few forum members, I have listed all the GM part numbers for this upgrade.

Upgraded parts

Left axle shaft 89060119
Right axle shaft 89060120
Right side gear 19180962
Right side snap ring 12458084
C6 Z06 clutches 19132906 (need 2)
HD spring for the clutches 19132817 (need 2)
C6 Z06 pinion carrier 89060110

Parts you need to re-seal

Axle seals 88996703 (need 2)
Side cover o rings 89047953 (need 2)
Rear cover o ring 89047954
Trans/diff seal o ring 12369456
Output shaft seal (inner) 19206242
Output shaft seal (outer) 12455045

Misc

Pinion retaining nut 12458142 (can use your old one)
Diff stud 88984492 (this mounts to the back of the trans)
Trans fluid 88861800 (replaces Dex III)
Synthetic diff fluid 89021677 (This part # have been superceeded to 88862624)
LS gear oil 88862624 (if you don't upgrade to C6 Z06 clutches)

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Everyone, Rick is the man you want to talk to if you're in the area and need work done.

Awesome job. Cant wait to put this and the tranny in next month.
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Thanks Matt, give her hell next season!!!!
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Nice comparison shots. Thanks for the pics.
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Great info!
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That is awesome and what you are saying is I can get all this off the shelf and it will fit in my 99 differential, that is cool and something I need to look into
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That is awesome and what you are saying is I can get all this off the shelf and it will fit in my 99 differential, that is cool and something I need to look into
Yes, all the mentioned parts will fit into the C5 case without issues and are available at your local GM dealer. The really difficult part of doing this is setting the shims (pinion, case and side cover) for proper pattern and back lash. If you don't have the correct (Kent Moore) tools and the info on calculating the initial pinion shim, this job is going to be really, REALLY hard!
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Thanks for the info.....catalogged....don't remember seeing this before...
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Great thread. Thanks.

I learned some new thngs here.
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how much cost do you have in parts on this project?
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Originally Posted by tommie
how much cost do you have in parts on this project?
Including the micro polished 4.10 Motive gears, about $1,400. Someone well known on this forum told me he hasn't seen the C6 Z06 shaft break. Well, I have few people with my diffs that will put that to the test next year!
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Originally Posted by ragtopws6
Including the micro polished 4.10 Motive gears, about $1,400. Someone well known on this forum told me he hasn't seen the C6 Z06 shaft break. Well, I have few people with my diffs that will put that to the test next year!
And one of those people had a whoooooole lot hp than me and is going to need a 10pt!!
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Hey Rick, great post.
I didn't have that rear end leak after all but I do have a noise in the Vette I would like you to listen too.
I will PM you

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Originally Posted by ragtopws6
Yes, all the mentioned parts will fit into the C5 case without issues and are available at your local GM dealer. The really difficult part of doing this is setting the shims (pinion, case and side cover) for proper pattern and back lash. If you don't have the correct (Kent Moore) tools and the info on calculating the initial pinion shim, this job is going to be really, REALLY hard!
would you mind sharing the part number for the tool and the info on calculating the initial pinion shim?
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Very good to know.

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Here is the calculation on C5 pinion shim setup:

B1 = pinion & drivers side measurement (need Kent Moore tool J42168)
B = 0.197"
B - B1 = B2

A1 = numbers on pinion gear
A = nominal value of 4.055"
A1 - A = B3

B2 + B3 = pinion shim thickness

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I don't know a thing about what works with what as far as the rear diffs. are concerned. But, I figure that's probably the next weakest link in my drivetrain and the next thing I'll be repairing...

So, my question is this: I already have the C5 300M hardened left and right shafts now, do you know if they will work with the C6 Z06 pinion and clutches? I'm thinking that hybrid might make for a fairly stout rearend. Or, are the output shafts different dimensions to where I'd need to replace mine with some C6 version? Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Switchbarrel
I don't know a thing about what works with what as far as the rear diffs. are concerned. But, I figure that's probably the next weakest link in my drivetrain and the next thing I'll be repairing...

So, my question is this: I already have the C5 300M hardened left and right shafts now, do you know if they will work with the C6 Z06 pinion and clutches? I'm thinking that hybrid might make for a fairly stout rearend. Or, are the output shafts different dimensions to where I'd need to replace mine with some C6 version? Thank you.

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Yes, the C6 pinion carrier, clutches and heavy duty springs will work with 300M shafts.

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I like what I see and this will make me not to get a whole C6Z cradle and torque tube setup


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