Rear main seal because of warped crankshaft? WTF???
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Rear main seal because of warped crankshaft? WTF???
I've been to allen samuel chevy in Houston with my 2002 Coupe four times in the last 3 weeks. They said my rear main seal was leaking. They fixed it 3 times and on one occasion they said it was the oil pan gasket. I only paid the first time. I just picked up my car and I am waiting for the excess oil to burn off, but I fear that it will still be leaking because I am smelling the burning oil again. The service man told me that if the seal keeps going out it might be because of a warped crankshaft. Is that even possible? I drive my car about 20 miles a day back and forth to work. I have about 102,000 miles on it and I never race it. It is a daily driver that I bought new in 02. I used to fix 350 chevys after high school and I was an engine mechanic in the Navy. I am not a certified mechanic by any means, but a warped crankshaft?
Please give me advice, i don't want to go in again and be told that this time I have to pay to replace my crankshaft without any rebuttal. The car will be 8 years old in 2 months and this is the first time that I've had to change anything other than maintanence items. Lucky me, but looks like that is all about to change or am I being taken for a ride.
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Please give me advice, i don't want to go in again and be told that this time I have to pay to replace my crankshaft without any rebuttal. The car will be 8 years old in 2 months and this is the first time that I've had to change anything other than maintanence items. Lucky me, but looks like that is all about to change or am I being taken for a ride.
Please help.
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I won't say it can't be true but I'll say it's the first I've ever heard of. And if your crankshaft did "warp" I would think you would have a lot more problems than an oil leak.
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Cant he get a dial indicator on it? I would think if it was off ceneter that much, the rear main bearing would also have "issues" of some kind. If they yank the pan again, they should MEASURE some things and look the the rear main bearing too.
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Could this be something as simple as a leaking valve cover, running down the back of the block and fooling the mechanic??
It's hard to believe that the crank is warped/bent.. I'd think there would be other problems.
I can understand them not wanting to see you again. It's a big job to get to that seal also remember, it's the mechanic who is warranting the work.
It's hard to believe that the crank is warped/bent.. I'd think there would be other problems.
I can understand them not wanting to see you again. It's a big job to get to that seal also remember, it's the mechanic who is warranting the work.
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Could this be something as simple as a leaking valve cover, running down the back of the block and fooling the mechanic??
It's hard to believe that the crank is warped/bent.. I'd think there would be other problems.
I can understand them not wanting to see you again. It's a big job to get to that seal also remember, it's the mechanic who is warranting the work.
It's hard to believe that the crank is warped/bent.. I'd think there would be other problems.
I can understand them not wanting to see you again. It's a big job to get to that seal also remember, it's the mechanic who is warranting the work.
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Anything else obvious? BTW I cannot see any oil from the top or sides. You literally have to jack it up and look right up under the center to see any oil and the oil is burning off of exhaust. Looks like it is under the gear shift area. (no it is not tranny oil). Anytime I stop at a light, I can just smell the stench.
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I would be willing to bet the crankshaft is not warped. Could be leaking from numerous places. The rear main could be installed wrong, rear cover seal, plug in the back of the crankshaft, ect. Sounds like the mechanic at the dealer is just guessing and getting it wrong.
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I would think that if the crank is that far out of round to make a new rear main seal leak then you would have a very serious vibration. Either they did not replace the seal (entire drivetrain needs to be removed) or the leak is somewhere else.
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I would be willing to bet the crankshaft is not warped. Could be leaking from numerous places. The rear main could be installed wrong, rear cover seal, plug in the back of the crankshaft, ect. Sounds like the mechanic at the dealer is just guessing and getting it wrong.
I guess you can never say never...but warped crankshaft Please If the crank was warped you would have other more serious problems I would think with rods, pistons, bearings etc..
Another dealer pesadilla (that's spanish for nightmare)
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I CALL BS. Ive heard of a lot of wierd problems over the years specially working at a part store but a warped crank. I would have them replace the rear main again but call you when it is time to install it. And go watch them. Ls1 cranks have taken over 500 hp of abuse with no problems. And never heard of that.
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Ask if they used new flywheel bolts, i think these have sealer on the threads. (Should be on your invoice) or if they put sealer on the old bolts, and reused them. I think GM calls for new bolts anytime you remove these.
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This is what I was thinking OR the mechanic who replaced the seal "nicked" the crank where the seal sits when he removed the old one therefore causing it to tear up the replaced ones they did. Bet thats what it is.
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In almost 60 years, I've heard of broken, damaged and cracked crankshafts. But I've never heard of a 'Warped' crankshaft. I'm not sure a crankshaft is even possible, or how it would pass inspection after it was both forged/machined and ready to be installed and still be warped ? I think you and Alllen chevrolet need sit down with a field tech from Chevrolet to sort this one out. I've never heard of it. !
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Warped Crank?? Pleez!! If the crank was warped you would be a rolling 7.0 earthquake on the Richter scale.
How long did they have the car each time. Given the amount of work that should tell you something. The next time around tell them when they get it torn down you want to come in and take a look at it before they re-assemble it. How much did they charge you for the first seal replacement?
How long did they have the car each time. Given the amount of work that should tell you something. The next time around tell them when they get it torn down you want to come in and take a look at it before they re-assemble it. How much did they charge you for the first seal replacement?
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