MCM Hood trouble
05-25-2013, 08:54 PM
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MCM Hood trouble
I recently Purchased a car with the MCM carbon fiber hood.
The problem is the frame inside the hood is pulling away from the carbon fiber shell.
Can anyone recommend a very strong glue or something to fix this.
The problem is the frame inside the hood is pulling away from the carbon fiber shell.
Can anyone recommend a very strong glue or something to fix this.
05-25-2013, 08:58 PM
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....mine has been on since 2005 and no issues....wonder what caused this
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05-25-2013, 09:04 PM
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the reason I ask is because I was personal friends with the owner and know the history and design and process.. and IN 10 years I've never heard of one single person with a genuine MCM hood experiencing this problem. My car originally appeared on the MCM website and my car has 90,000 miles on it and my hood i9s as perfect as the day I bought it... to answer your question you need to know if , in fact it is a genuine MCM hood... a receipt or some confirmation that's it is a vacuum processed hood. otherwise you can go to any body shop. they make a bullet proof professional two part bonding agent epoxy that would work, Any body shop knows this.. they use this product on metal and fiberglass, its used in a lot of applications that were formerly welded with metal products but works equally as well on non ferrous and aluminum applications.
05-25-2013, 09:05 PM
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^^^^^ as I said I have never heard of this issue....perhaps we need pics of said hood
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05-25-2013, 09:59 PM
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I will have to get the pictures of the problem tomorrow in the daylight.
I'm pretty sure it's the real deal, I traced the car back to the original owner 0Navy Blue here is a post he did on the car.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...-rear-end.html
I'm pretty sure it's the real deal, I traced the car back to the original owner 0Navy Blue here is a post he did on the car.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...-rear-end.html
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05-25-2013, 10:18 PM
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Im going to post my MCM hood to see if we can see any differences.
they should not have happen with a vacuum molded hood. the vacuum process makes everything one piece by sucking out any air and forming both sections into one .. much like repairing a stone hit to a windshield where the air is sucked out of the damage and epoxy fills in and leaves no voids.
they should not have happen with a vacuum molded hood. the vacuum process makes everything one piece by sucking out any air and forming both sections into one .. much like repairing a stone hit to a windshield where the air is sucked out of the damage and epoxy fills in and leaves no voids.
05-25-2013, 10:27 PM
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Your hood is not a genuine MCM hood...
if you look at the horizontal cross bar on my hood ( very important ) A genuine MCM hood has this cross bar design to break away ( break in half ) in the event of a front end collision.. it is DOT approved because of this break away feature.. your hood does not have this cross bar.
If you notice your hood has a deep U shaped cross bar. Mike Mickoz the owner and designer of MCM company never changed this design.
if you look at the horizontal cross bar on my hood ( very important ) A genuine MCM hood has this cross bar design to break away ( break in half ) in the event of a front end collision.. it is DOT approved because of this break away feature.. your hood does not have this cross bar.
If you notice your hood has a deep U shaped cross bar. Mike Mickoz the owner and designer of MCM company never changed this design.
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05-25-2013, 10:36 PM
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Your hood is not a genuine MCM hood...
if you look at the horizontal cross bar on my hood ( very important ) A genuine MCM hood has this cross bar design to break away ( break in half ) in the event of a front end collision.. it is DOT approved because of this break away feature.. your hood does not have this cross bar.
If you notice your hood has a deep U shaped cross bar. Mike Mickoz the owner and designer of MCM company never changed this design.
if you look at the horizontal cross bar on my hood ( very important ) A genuine MCM hood has this cross bar design to break away ( break in half ) in the event of a front end collision.. it is DOT approved because of this break away feature.. your hood does not have this cross bar.
If you notice your hood has a deep U shaped cross bar. Mike Mickoz the owner and designer of MCM company never changed this design.
After looking at both pics I agree not genuine. Sorry , Mr. Evil- Twin has spoken. He is rarely wrong . 
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05-25-2013, 10:45 PM
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Your hood is not a genuine MCM hood...
if you look at the horizontal cross bar on my hood ( very important ) A genuine MCM hood has this cross bar design to break away ( break in half ) in the event of a front end collision.. it is DOT approved because of this break away feature.. your hood does not have this cross bar.
If you notice your hood has a deep U shaped cross bar. Mike Mickoz the owner and designer of MCM company never changed this design.
if you look at the horizontal cross bar on my hood ( very important ) A genuine MCM hood has this cross bar design to break away ( break in half ) in the event of a front end collision.. it is DOT approved because of this break away feature.. your hood does not have this cross bar.
If you notice your hood has a deep U shaped cross bar. Mike Mickoz the owner and designer of MCM company never changed this design.
Well I guess I will take it by a body shop one day and see what they can do.
05-25-2013, 10:46 PM
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BTW I take no pleasure in telling you this about your hood.. But this doesn't mean that you cant fix your hood.. there are some very good clones out there that do not use the vacuum form process which is good for your situation .. meaning that because your hood is not vacuum formed.. you can get a body shop to wedge open the inner from the outer without fear of the hood cracking. they can then apply the two part automotive epoxy and clamp it closed and you should be good...after some finish work.
I don't suggest they completely separate the inner from the outer but enough to get the epoxy in there.
FYI MCM was only able to build 6 hood a week so there are less than 2000 genuine hoods out there for a C5. right before the co owner of MCM died they were In the process of moving and build a second C5mold.. they also made a High rise mold but only produced that hood for two years and they made a C6 hood before closing shop, when Mike Mikoz also took sick. Mike sold the molds to Ecklars with e promise not to sell them as genuine MCM hoods. I think West Coast may have got one of the molds too. But Ecklars and West cost never used the vacuum form process ( too expensive and time consuming.)
I don't suggest they completely separate the inner from the outer but enough to get the epoxy in there.
FYI MCM was only able to build 6 hood a week so there are less than 2000 genuine hoods out there for a C5. right before the co owner of MCM died they were In the process of moving and build a second C5mold.. they also made a High rise mold but only produced that hood for two years and they made a C6 hood before closing shop, when Mike Mikoz also took sick. Mike sold the molds to Ecklars with e promise not to sell them as genuine MCM hoods. I think West Coast may have got one of the molds too. But Ecklars and West cost never used the vacuum form process ( too expensive and time consuming.)
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05-25-2013, 10:57 PM
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BTW I take no pleasure in telling you this about your hood.. But this doesn't mean that you cant fix your hood.. there are some very good clones out there that do not use the vacuum form process which is good for your situation .. meaning that because your hood is not vacuum formed.. you can get a body shop to wedge open the inner from the outer without fear of the hood cracking. they can then apply the two part automotive epoxy and clamp it closed and you should be good...after some finish work.
I don't suggest they completely separate the inner from the outer but enough to get the epoxy in there.
FYI MCM was only able to build 6 hood a week so there are less than 2000 genuine hoods out there for a C5. right before the co owner of MCM died they were In the process of moving and build a second C5mold.. they also made a High rise mold but only produced that hood for two years and they made a C6 hood before closing shop, when Mike Mikoz also took sick. Mike sold the molds to Ecklars with e promise not to sell them as genuine MCM hoods. I think West Coast may have got one of the molds too. But Ecklars and West cost never used the vacuum form process ( too expensive and time consuming.)
I don't suggest they completely separate the inner from the outer but enough to get the epoxy in there.
FYI MCM was only able to build 6 hood a week so there are less than 2000 genuine hoods out there for a C5. right before the co owner of MCM died they were In the process of moving and build a second C5mold.. they also made a High rise mold but only produced that hood for two years and they made a C6 hood before closing shop, when Mike Mikoz also took sick. Mike sold the molds to Ecklars with e promise not to sell them as genuine MCM hoods. I think West Coast may have got one of the molds too. But Ecklars and West cost never used the vacuum form process ( too expensive and time consuming.)
I got a great deal on this car and this is not going to break my heart or anything.
Did MCM ever go back in business?
05-25-2013, 11:23 PM
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the website has been disabled.. so I guess Mike's wife took down the site.
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05-26-2013, 12:34 AM
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Well if it'd not an original it's a really good copy. Wonder if that is one of those hoods people were saying they were getting from MCM after the original owners stopped making them?
05-26-2013, 03:59 PM
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BTW I take no pleasure in telling you this about your hood.. But this doesn't mean that you cant fix your hood.. there are some very good clones out there that do not use the vacuum form process which is good for your situation .. meaning that because your hood is not vacuum formed.. you can get a body shop to wedge open the inner from the outer without fear of the hood cracking. they can then apply the two part automotive epoxy and clamp it closed and you should be good...after some finish work.
I don't suggest they completely separate the inner from the outer but enough to get the epoxy in there.
FYI MCM was only able to build 6 hood a week so there are less than 2000 genuine hoods out there for a C5. right before the co owner of MCM died they were In the process of moving and build a second C5mold.. they also made a High rise mold but only produced that hood for two years and they made a C6 hood before closing shop, when Mike Mikoz also took sick. Mike sold the molds to Ecklars with e promise not to sell them as genuine MCM hoods. I think West Coast may have got one of the molds too. But Ecklars and West cost never used the vacuum form process ( too expensive and time consuming.)
I don't suggest they completely separate the inner from the outer but enough to get the epoxy in there.
FYI MCM was only able to build 6 hood a week so there are less than 2000 genuine hoods out there for a C5. right before the co owner of MCM died they were In the process of moving and build a second C5mold.. they also made a High rise mold but only produced that hood for two years and they made a C6 hood before closing shop, when Mike Mikoz also took sick. Mike sold the molds to Ecklars with e promise not to sell them as genuine MCM hoods. I think West Coast may have got one of the molds too. But Ecklars and West cost never used the vacuum form process ( too expensive and time consuming.)
hood ordered directly from them. At the time I thought they were
expensive compared to other hoods but I appreciated the workmanship that went in to the hood. As the years have gone by many many
people have acknowleged what a fine hood I have. So it goes to
show you my hood was not expensive at all it was a good deal and
still looks brand new.
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05-26-2013, 10:25 PM
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Panel adhesive, I had similar problem and used "Evercoat Maxim 815 or 816". Has been holding my hood together for two years now no more issues. I believe 3M also make an excellent Panel Adhesive. Got mine at Body Shop supply warehouse.
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The hoods that Evil-Twin posted are the earlier MCM hoods with the narrow bubble resembling the OEM hood lines.
Mike of MCM however had worked on a Supercharger version and I received the first one off the line.
The difference in in the low rise and the high rise (Supercharger) version was that he added a little more height in the nose and broadened the bubble so that it did not look like it rose up with the abrupt demarcation seen in so many other high rise hoods. It was even rather camouflaged by his ingenious design.
So if you are going make a comparison you can see yours again compared to the real thing. StuzVette was indeed the hood in their advertising. I took the pictures!
You can really see the broad bubble here:
(This may be the best way to prove from the look underneath along with the broad bubble design whether yours is original MCM)
Mike of MCM however had worked on a Supercharger version and I received the first one off the line.
The difference in in the low rise and the high rise (Supercharger) version was that he added a little more height in the nose and broadened the bubble so that it did not look like it rose up with the abrupt demarcation seen in so many other high rise hoods. It was even rather camouflaged by his ingenious design.
So if you are going make a comparison you can see yours again compared to the real thing. StuzVette was indeed the hood in their advertising. I took the pictures!
You can really see the broad bubble here:
(This may be the best way to prove from the look underneath along with the broad bubble design whether yours is original MCM)
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08-31-2013, 09:27 AM
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The hoods that Evil-Twin posted are the earlier MCM hoods with the narrow bubble resembling the OEM hood lines.
Mike of MCM however had worked on a Supercharger version and I received the first one off the line.
The difference in in the low rise and the high rise (Supercharger) version was that he added a little more height in the nose and broadened the bubble so that it did not look like it rose up with the abrupt demarcation seen in so many other high rise hoods. It was even rather camouflaged by his ingenious design.
So if you are going make a comparison you can see yours again compared to the real thing. StuzVette was indeed the hood in their advertising. I took the pictures!
You can really see the broad bubble here:
(This may be the best way to prove from the look underneath along with the broad bubble design whether yours is original MCM)
Mike of MCM however had worked on a Supercharger version and I received the first one off the line.
The difference in in the low rise and the high rise (Supercharger) version was that he added a little more height in the nose and broadened the bubble so that it did not look like it rose up with the abrupt demarcation seen in so many other high rise hoods. It was even rather camouflaged by his ingenious design.
So if you are going make a comparison you can see yours again compared to the real thing. StuzVette was indeed the hood in their advertising. I took the pictures!
You can really see the broad bubble here:
(This may be the best way to prove from the look underneath along with the broad bubble design whether yours is original MCM)
