Dangerous - Active Handling Malfunction
#1
Drifting
Thread Starter
Dangerous - Active Handling Malfunction
This morning I was out on I-49 going pretty fast not crazy fast. Road is straight and smooth. Suddenly Active Handling came on and caused me to swerve into left lane. Scared the c$@p out of me! Pulled computer codes, shows C1287 H. Seems like this should be a recall. Has anybody else had this happen?
#4
Burning Brakes
Yes it has happened to me on my 04. That is the SWPS going bad. Costs about $65.00 at www.gmpartshouse.com and takes about 2.5 to 3 hours to replace. Replaced mine and all is good now. Does get really scary when it pulls you when you don't expect it.
#5
Drifting
Thread Starter
Safety issues can be subject to recall for extended time frame ie: This problem resulted in 10year / 100,000mi extended warranty
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...or-smells.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...or-smells.html
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I had to have my steering sensor replaced last spring.
#8
Melting Slicks
Safety issues can be subject to recall for extended time frame ie: This problem resulted in 10year / 100,000mi extended warranty
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...or-smells.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...or-smells.html
I hope you can see the difference.
#9
This is not comforting. I was hoping that AH could save my bacon someday while driving the 2 lane levee roads in my area. Now it looks like AH could very well put me into on-coming traffic or the Sacramento river! The weird thing is that just yesterday while driving my car the few blocks to my mechanic to have a Corsa exhaust installed, the Service Active Handling message came up in the DIC. I asked my mechanic (not a dealer) to check it out and he said when he looked for suspension codes nothing came up. I no longer get the Service AH message but, after reading this thread, I'm more than a little worried.
#10
Melting Slicks
I know that most people swear by active handling, but I thank my lucky stars every day that my car does not have that option.
Anything that is designed into a vehicle such as active handling should have some kind of fail safe that totally disables it in the event that various parts of the system fail, especially if it can or could make changes in the current operation of the vehicle.
Definitely dangerous in my oppinion, how in the Hell can something like this happen nowadays.
Anything that is designed into a vehicle such as active handling should have some kind of fail safe that totally disables it in the event that various parts of the system fail, especially if it can or could make changes in the current operation of the vehicle.
Definitely dangerous in my oppinion, how in the Hell can something like this happen nowadays.
#11
You can pull the codes your self without any special tools. Here is how:
http://www.c5forum.com/ayc/dtcdic.php
OR
Codes related to TC/AH will show up under
28 TCS
Codes are 5 characters long beginning with an alpha and followed by 4 numerics and then followed by an H or C or HC.
http://www.c5forum.com/ayc/dtcdic.php
OR
Codes related to TC/AH will show up under
28 TCS
Codes are 5 characters long beginning with an alpha and followed by 4 numerics and then followed by an H or C or HC.
#12
I know that most people swear by active handling, but I thank my lucky stars every day that my car does not have that option.
Anything that is designed into a vehicle such as active handling should have some kind of fail safe that totally disables it in the event that various parts of the system fail, especially if it can or could make changes in the current operation of the vehicle.
Definitely dangerous in my oppinion, how in the Hell can something like this happen nowadays.
Anything that is designed into a vehicle such as active handling should have some kind of fail safe that totally disables it in the event that various parts of the system fail, especially if it can or could make changes in the current operation of the vehicle.
Definitely dangerous in my oppinion, how in the Hell can something like this happen nowadays.
Last edited by R2R; 01-08-2014 at 09:53 PM.
#13
Melting Slicks
This morning I was out on I-49 going pretty fast not crazy fast. Road is straight and smooth. Suddenly Active Handling came on and caused me to swerve into left lane. Scared the c$@p out of me! Pulled computer codes, shows C1287 H. Seems like this should be a recall. Has anybody else had this happen?
Questions ...
When you say it came on and caused you to swerve at speed into the left lane... Did you mean to say it caused "the car" to uncontrollably swerve into the left lane or did it indeed cause "you" to swerve into the left lane.
Curious to know exactly what happened mechanically and whether you feel that you could have overcome the swerve action if you weren't caught off guard??
I apologize in advance if it might seem that I am sharp shooting your statement or your actions in any way as that is not my intent.
Thanks...
#14
Drifting
Questions ...
When you say it came on and caused you to swerve at speed into the left lane... Did you mean to say it caused "the car" to uncontrollably swerve into the left lane or did it indeed cause "you" to swerve into the left lane.
Curious to know exactly what happened mechanically and whether you feel that you could have overcome the swerve action if you weren't caught off guard??
I apologize in advance if it might seem that I am sharp shooting your statement or your actions in any way as that is not my intent.
Thanks...
When you say it came on and caused you to swerve at speed into the left lane... Did you mean to say it caused "the car" to uncontrollably swerve into the left lane or did it indeed cause "you" to swerve into the left lane.
Curious to know exactly what happened mechanically and whether you feel that you could have overcome the swerve action if you weren't caught off guard??
I apologize in advance if it might seem that I am sharp shooting your statement or your actions in any way as that is not my intent.
Thanks...
#17
Drifting
Thread Starter
Questions ...
When you say it came on and caused you to swerve at speed into the left lane... Did you mean to say it caused "the car" to uncontrollably swerve into the left lane or did it indeed cause "you" to swerve into the left lane.
Curious to know exactly what happened mechanically and whether you feel that you could have overcome the swerve action if you weren't caught off guard??
I apologize in advance if it might seem that I am sharp shooting your statement or your actions in any way as that is not my intent.
Thanks...
When you say it came on and caused you to swerve at speed into the left lane... Did you mean to say it caused "the car" to uncontrollably swerve into the left lane or did it indeed cause "you" to swerve into the left lane.
Curious to know exactly what happened mechanically and whether you feel that you could have overcome the swerve action if you weren't caught off guard??
I apologize in advance if it might seem that I am sharp shooting your statement or your actions in any way as that is not my intent.
Thanks...
I guess if I had known the exact instant it would happen I could have corrected by steering to the right at that instant. Then again, that might have caused a spin out. I now have a post it note on dash reminding me to disable active handling until problem is resolved.
#18
Le Mans Master
It caused the car to uncontrollably swerve into left lane. If it had been 2 lane highway would have put me in path of on coming traffic. My impression is that braking was applied to left rear. I did nothing. As I said was on smooth straight Interstate. I did not turn steering wheel in either direction until after it occurred to get back in right lane.
I guess if I had known the exact instant it would happen I could have corrected by steering to the right at that instant. Then again, that might have caused a spin out. I now have a post it note on dash reminding me to disable active handling until problem is resolved.
I guess if I had known the exact instant it would happen I could have corrected by steering to the right at that instant. Then again, that might have caused a spin out. I now have a post it note on dash reminding me to disable active handling until problem is resolved.
#19
Melting Slicks
There have been several threads posted on this topic. Some members have stated they're now scared to death to operate their car based on this anomaly.
I have wondered what effort a driver would need to overtake control from the computer in order to straighten out his vehicle. In other words, to yank the wheel back into the proper lane, would that tell the failing AHS to re-engage and send the driver off-track again?
It is human nature to correct first and analyze later, and I'm just wondering the range of exertion and motion necessary to overcome such a failure.
Also, does a Service Active Handling message usually precede such failures? If so, would it be advisable to disengage AHS until one can safely get their vehicle serviced?
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I have wondered what effort a driver would need to overtake control from the computer in order to straighten out his vehicle. In other words, to yank the wheel back into the proper lane, would that tell the failing AHS to re-engage and send the driver off-track again?
It is human nature to correct first and analyze later, and I'm just wondering the range of exertion and motion necessary to overcome such a failure.
Also, does a Service Active Handling message usually precede such failures? If so, would it be advisable to disengage AHS until one can safely get their vehicle serviced?
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#20
Melting Slicks
Been there - Done that.....and yes it is very scary. I was doing 70mph down the freeway when the car suddenly darted to the left. It turned out to be the steering wheel position sensor. If there was a way to completely remove AH from this car, I'd do it in a heartbeat. For now, I just turn off all nannies when I start up the car.