Do I absolutely need the X Pipe?
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Do I absolutely need the X Pipe?
Hey Guys,
My xmas gift to my self this year is an exhaust. I decided on the Corsa indy/Sport with tigershark tips. My question is do I absolutely need the XO pipe? Will I get a ridulous amount of popping on decel? I'd rather put the 300 bucks into the install than the x pipe, but if it needs it then i'll get it.
I'm new to Corvette world, just bought this 98 Vert manual this fall.
Any comments are welcomed! Have nice Holiday everyone.
My xmas gift to my self this year is an exhaust. I decided on the Corsa indy/Sport with tigershark tips. My question is do I absolutely need the XO pipe? Will I get a ridulous amount of popping on decel? I'd rather put the 300 bucks into the install than the x pipe, but if it needs it then i'll get it.
I'm new to Corvette world, just bought this 98 Vert manual this fall.
Any comments are welcomed! Have nice Holiday everyone.
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Hey Guys,
My xmas gift to my self this year is an exhaust. I decided on the Corsa indy/Sport with tigershark tips. My question is do I absolutely need the XO pipe? Will I get a ridulous amount of popping on decel? I'd rather put the 300 bucks into the install than the x pipe, but if it needs it then i'll get it.
I'm new to Corvette world, just bought this 98 Vert manual this fall.
Any comments are welcomed! Have nice Holiday everyone.
My xmas gift to my self this year is an exhaust. I decided on the Corsa indy/Sport with tigershark tips. My question is do I absolutely need the XO pipe? Will I get a ridulous amount of popping on decel? I'd rather put the 300 bucks into the install than the x pipe, but if it needs it then i'll get it.
I'm new to Corvette world, just bought this 98 Vert manual this fall.
Any comments are welcomed! Have nice Holiday everyone.
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Thanks Tentuna. Maybe I should get it then. I'm assuming its a perfect fit if the x pipe and the exhaust are different?
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Shop around a bit for the install. Any shop with a lift should be able to switch the exhaust out in less than an hour. Shouldn't cost $300.
Also, You could consider doing it yourself if you have any skill/tools required. If you can lift the back of the car just enough to get under there you can remove the old system by cutting it close to the axle with a hack saw. My understanding is that the Corsa system come in pieces so can be installed without the car being on a lift. I'm sure someone else that has the Corsa system can confirm this.
Also, You could consider doing it yourself if you have any skill/tools required. If you can lift the back of the car just enough to get under there you can remove the old system by cutting it close to the axle with a hack saw. My understanding is that the Corsa system come in pieces so can be installed without the car being on a lift. I'm sure someone else that has the Corsa system can confirm this.
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Shop around a bit for the install. Any shop with a lift should be able to switch the exhaust out in less than an hour. Shouldn't cost $300.
Also, You could consider doing it yourself if you have any skill/tools required. If you can lift the back of the car just enough to get under there you can remove the old system by cutting it close to the axle with a hack saw. My understanding is that the Corsa system come in pieces so can be installed without the car being on a lift. I'm sure someone else that has the Corsa system can confirm this.
Also, You could consider doing it yourself if you have any skill/tools required. If you can lift the back of the car just enough to get under there you can remove the old system by cutting it close to the axle with a hack saw. My understanding is that the Corsa system come in pieces so can be installed without the car being on a lift. I'm sure someone else that has the Corsa system can confirm this.
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I have the same system on my 02 with long tube headers. I definitely agree with the group here, do the x-pipe. It makes a difference. You will like the Corsa system.
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If all you are doing is the catback section on your exhaust, then no, you do not absolutely have to install an x-pipe on the car with a Corsa system. With other systems that may not be the case since others have a tendency to drone and pop. The stock H-pipe will work just fine. I run the Corsa Indy Pace Car exhaust on mine with the stock H-pipe. There is no popping or drone and the exhaust sounds great.
When and if you install LT headers you could install the x-pipe then. With the Corsa exhaust, you should not experience drone or popping.
But, the call is ultimately yours to make. The x-pipe will smooth out the exhaust flow a bit and since you will already be under the car working on the exhaust, it could be a good time to kill two birds with one stone if your budget allows.
When and if you install LT headers you could install the x-pipe then. With the Corsa exhaust, you should not experience drone or popping.
But, the call is ultimately yours to make. The x-pipe will smooth out the exhaust flow a bit and since you will already be under the car working on the exhaust, it could be a good time to kill two birds with one stone if your budget allows.
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I have the Sport with the x pipe. I had to install it because PO had a Magna Flow system that was welded together. My wife bought mine for me at the 20 year NCM event. Corsa was doing the install for free. Great deal. I think you will be happy either way you go. If you are just doing axle back very easy install, no cutting. Congrats on the new car. I have a similar '98 too
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Your muffler shop should have some "weld-in" X-pipes available for around $60. Obviously they won't be name brand Corvette stuff but you can have them put that in when they are doing the rest of the exhaust.
Will be a little cheaper and should accomplish the same thing as the bolt-on x-pipes.
Will be a little cheaper and should accomplish the same thing as the bolt-on x-pipes.
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I installed TI exhaust on my car without and about 3 months later I found an X pipe local for a good price and installed it, In my opinion when I installed the X pipe the car sounded a lot better, Kinda like an exotic sound.
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I just ordered my Corsa sport exhaust-no x-pipe from westcoastcorvette.com and had the same question. He said not necessary for a 6spd but more so for an automatic. I think with the louder "Extreme" version you do need the x-pipes.
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It's not required. It's personal preference. I don't have an X-pipe with my GHL exhaust and it sounds fine. I've gotten many compliments.
I heard my dad's B&B cat back on his old C5 with and without an X-pipe. The sound was fine without, but the popping during deceleration with the X-pipe decreased.
If you plan on doing headers at some point, wait and do the X-pipe at that point.
And the install of a "cat back" (which is technically an axel back without an X-pipe) should not cost anywhere near $300. If you go to a shop and that's the price they give, find a new shop.
I heard my dad's B&B cat back on his old C5 with and without an X-pipe. The sound was fine without, but the popping during deceleration with the X-pipe decreased.
If you plan on doing headers at some point, wait and do the X-pipe at that point.
And the install of a "cat back" (which is technically an axel back without an X-pipe) should not cost anywhere near $300. If you go to a shop and that's the price they give, find a new shop.
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I opted to do without a X pipe and had the exhaust shop get rid of the H pipe as well.
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Here's my 2 cents...........
I've recently had the fortune of hearing 3 different types of exhaust setups on c5s...
1. When I bought my c5 it had a custom exhaust, including part of the factory H pipe (including the "h") then glasspacks then straight pipes out to the back.
2. I recently changed that out to an x pipe after the factory cats, then to an aftermarket axleback.
3. I've also heard the complete factory (stock) setup on a friend's c5.
Previously on this forum I had heard the term "motorboat" sound describing exhausts, but really didn't quite know what they were talking about, UNTIL I heard #3. It actually is a perfect description, compared to some of the nice aftermarket systems out there (you know the names).
When I went from #1 to #2 it was certainly quieter (which was exactly was I was going for), but also the "bubble" sound at idle (and otherwise) was a little less pronounced, and a little smoother. IMO the x pipe will help ANY system kinda reduce the "bubbly" sound out the back to more of a "rumble" sound, if that makes sense. I think it helps to reduce the height of the sound "waves" and smoothes them out to produce a 'rumble' of sorts. The pulse is still there, just a little less pronounced.
The axleback I chose was the borla s type II, but I would still think that the results would be the same with any other brand (Corsa,etc.), just the pitch of the sound would be different.
(I.E. I think borlas generally produce a lower pitched sound while corsas 'generally' might be a tad higher (less deep)). But they would still rumble with the x pipe compared to the motorboat sound of the H PIPE.....
But I have NOT heard a corsa exhaust with the H pipe in person. These are just 'my' experiences. Good luck with your choice and get out and DRIVE IT!
I've recently had the fortune of hearing 3 different types of exhaust setups on c5s...
1. When I bought my c5 it had a custom exhaust, including part of the factory H pipe (including the "h") then glasspacks then straight pipes out to the back.
2. I recently changed that out to an x pipe after the factory cats, then to an aftermarket axleback.
3. I've also heard the complete factory (stock) setup on a friend's c5.
Previously on this forum I had heard the term "motorboat" sound describing exhausts, but really didn't quite know what they were talking about, UNTIL I heard #3. It actually is a perfect description, compared to some of the nice aftermarket systems out there (you know the names).
When I went from #1 to #2 it was certainly quieter (which was exactly was I was going for), but also the "bubble" sound at idle (and otherwise) was a little less pronounced, and a little smoother. IMO the x pipe will help ANY system kinda reduce the "bubbly" sound out the back to more of a "rumble" sound, if that makes sense. I think it helps to reduce the height of the sound "waves" and smoothes them out to produce a 'rumble' of sorts. The pulse is still there, just a little less pronounced.
The axleback I chose was the borla s type II, but I would still think that the results would be the same with any other brand (Corsa,etc.), just the pitch of the sound would be different.
(I.E. I think borlas generally produce a lower pitched sound while corsas 'generally' might be a tad higher (less deep)). But they would still rumble with the x pipe compared to the motorboat sound of the H PIPE.....
But I have NOT heard a corsa exhaust with the H pipe in person. These are just 'my' experiences. Good luck with your choice and get out and DRIVE IT!
Last edited by JayTee72; 12-21-2014 at 06:15 PM.