12 inch rear wheels...
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Oh and for the record, I was 18 when my Z06 was new. Far from 18 now I'll agree, there is a huge age gap on this site.
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Took this 5 minute ago
There is no rub anywhere throughout the suspension travel. I would not expect it since John at CCW built these specifically for my car with 14 inch rotors and rear brake ducts. And as Much as I am a Professional , John is a professional wheel designer and builder. I Go to a guy that understands how traditional tire fitments should be built.
When I bought my 11's from him, I asked him if I could go bigger and he said no ..my car has 14 inch rotors then and also rear brake ducts. Money was not an object.. I didn't ask him for 11's I asked him for the biggest I could get under the car..
Here is a picture of my Rear 13' wheels and tires on the left , and my rear 11's'' on the right, Both fit under the car not outside the car.. 13's with the 2 inch flares , and the 11's with stock quarters.. both wheels are CCW 505
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I'll also agree that John and Dan understand "traditional" tire fitments, but they are also very into the types of fitments you are bashing in this thread.
http://www.flushstance.com/
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I specified a 1/4" more backspacing when I ordered my CCW's and my tires only stick past the fender by a 1/16" at the top front & rear, I prefer the flush look rather than tires protruding past the fender line.
I am running 1/2 degree negative camber.
I am running 1/2 degree negative camber.
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[QUOTE=Evil-Twin;1588838852]and they stick out just about an inch... No Corvette comes from the factory with the tire sitting out an inch past the quarter panel.. spitting gravel and and sand and salt all over your fenders.
Those who like that 1980's Monte Carlo look tire outside the fender look then yes you can do it.. To prove my point and the direction this forum has gone.. Light um up Bro... sad....
No 1980's look for me. I guess that's because I'm not an immature kid telling some one to Light um up Bro... Kids( 14 to 18 ) see my car all the time and that's what they tell me, "light um up"... I just laugh at their immaturity, but them I was an immature kid once when I was 16.
Sir, I didn't direct any comments toward you or mean to upset you... I didn't even comment on the fitment either way...inside or outside fender wells...just think the Black02 has a sick car... so is yours... that's a Good thing! Was just being enthusiastic about the fabulous corvettes that we enjoy, with the "Lightem up" comment. It's not a challenge or meant to be derogatory just a slang thing...
Thank you for your 14 years of support, encouragement, expertise, experience, and sharing...please keep it up. Someone once said, "A word to the wise is sufficient." You have done your part.
ps...when the kids see you and holler... it just means they love your car, they don't mean any disrespect, at least give them a thumbs up.
Those who like that 1980's Monte Carlo look tire outside the fender look then yes you can do it.. To prove my point and the direction this forum has gone.. Light um up Bro... sad....
No 1980's look for me. I guess that's because I'm not an immature kid telling some one to Light um up Bro... Kids( 14 to 18 ) see my car all the time and that's what they tell me, "light um up"... I just laugh at their immaturity, but them I was an immature kid once when I was 16.
Sir, I didn't direct any comments toward you or mean to upset you... I didn't even comment on the fitment either way...inside or outside fender wells...just think the Black02 has a sick car... so is yours... that's a Good thing! Was just being enthusiastic about the fabulous corvettes that we enjoy, with the "Lightem up" comment. It's not a challenge or meant to be derogatory just a slang thing...
Thank you for your 14 years of support, encouragement, expertise, experience, and sharing...please keep it up. Someone once said, "A word to the wise is sufficient." You have done your part.
ps...when the kids see you and holler... it just means they love your car, they don't mean any disrespect, at least give them a thumbs up.
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#49
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It must be difficult and frustrating being so closed-minded. I'll continue loving the way my C5 looks and accepting all the compliments I get.
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with all the recent questions concerning this subject, i started a thread for those of us with 12" wide rears and stock fenders.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...only-pics.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...only-pics.html
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sorry the little hide thing was pretty immature
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LOL.... No, I'm not. I just saw an ad for some wheels/tires and asked a question. I didn't know all hell would break loose...
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I know there is this 'right way and wrong way' thing going on here; but there is a point of confusion that is driving me nuts.
While there may only be 11 1/12 inches from the inner fender to the lip in a straight line; that is not how a wheel sits in a car that is not a straight axle.
Firstly, when measuring a wheel; it is generally measured from the INSIDE of the lips. That means your 10" wheel is about 11" in total width. Plus account for tire buldge and this assumed 3/4" number to the fender. By your own logic a stock C5z wheel shouldn't fit.
The catch here is that ride height is going to dictate tire placement as an SLA or any IRS design has a wheel traveling in an arc pattern. Where the wheel is only square to the car at the longest portion of the arc of the longest arm. Hence when you lower a car (or let it hang on stands) the wheels will come in closer to the body with a set amount of camber.
Even a stock Corvette does not run 0 degrees out back; which would make the wheel square. What you DO have to work with is not a straight line from fender to inner fender; but a cross section in a diagonal line. That extra 1/2" to an inch is what is the make or break point and walks the fine line of when camber becomes excessive.
This is why everything down to tire choice plays a roll including overall height. To be so terrifically cut and dry without acknowledging these aspects is rather kid like yourself in that it's the argumental mentality of an 8yr old . "No it's not and I don't care; you are wrong".
I agree that setups look best inside the housings, but they also look best when fitted aggressively towards the edge of the envelope. While a 12" wheel at YOUR offset might not work; with the proper backspace moving it towards the inner fender; with JUST a touch of camber, they fit perfectly, while not even being outside of what could be considered a performance spec.
Want them larger and stock fenders? Mini tub it for a few hundred and be done. Or you can stick on huge 1970s flares and go the other way.
Even a widebody c6 with agressive fenders does not taper back into a narrow bumper. On a subject of taste you should not be as quick to judge.
Although input is always valued, and is often taken without thanks, it is equally important not to let ego get the best of you.
While there may only be 11 1/12 inches from the inner fender to the lip in a straight line; that is not how a wheel sits in a car that is not a straight axle.
Firstly, when measuring a wheel; it is generally measured from the INSIDE of the lips. That means your 10" wheel is about 11" in total width. Plus account for tire buldge and this assumed 3/4" number to the fender. By your own logic a stock C5z wheel shouldn't fit.
The catch here is that ride height is going to dictate tire placement as an SLA or any IRS design has a wheel traveling in an arc pattern. Where the wheel is only square to the car at the longest portion of the arc of the longest arm. Hence when you lower a car (or let it hang on stands) the wheels will come in closer to the body with a set amount of camber.
Even a stock Corvette does not run 0 degrees out back; which would make the wheel square. What you DO have to work with is not a straight line from fender to inner fender; but a cross section in a diagonal line. That extra 1/2" to an inch is what is the make or break point and walks the fine line of when camber becomes excessive.
This is why everything down to tire choice plays a roll including overall height. To be so terrifically cut and dry without acknowledging these aspects is rather kid like yourself in that it's the argumental mentality of an 8yr old . "No it's not and I don't care; you are wrong".
I agree that setups look best inside the housings, but they also look best when fitted aggressively towards the edge of the envelope. While a 12" wheel at YOUR offset might not work; with the proper backspace moving it towards the inner fender; with JUST a touch of camber, they fit perfectly, while not even being outside of what could be considered a performance spec.
Want them larger and stock fenders? Mini tub it for a few hundred and be done. Or you can stick on huge 1970s flares and go the other way.
Even a widebody c6 with agressive fenders does not taper back into a narrow bumper. On a subject of taste you should not be as quick to judge.
Although input is always valued, and is often taken without thanks, it is equally important not to let ego get the best of you.
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I know there is this 'right way and wrong way' thing going on here; but there is a point of confusion that is driving me nuts.
While there may only be 11 1/12 inches from the inner fender to the lip in a straight line; that is not how a wheel sits in a car that is not a straight axle.
Firstly, when measuring a wheel; it is generally measured from the INSIDE of the lips. That means your 10" wheel is about 11" in total width. Plus account for tire buldge and this assumed 3/4" number to the fender. By your own logic a stock C5z wheel shouldn't fit.
The catch here is that ride height is going to dictate tire placement as an SLA or any IRS design has a wheel traveling in an arc pattern. Where the wheel is only square to the car at the longest portion of the arc of the longest arm. Hence when you lower a car (or let it hang on stands) the wheels will come in closer to the body with a set amount of camber.
Even a stock Corvette does not run 0 degrees out back; which would make the wheel square. What you DO have to work with is not a straight line from fender to inner fender; but a cross section in a diagonal line. That extra 1/2" to an inch is what is the make or break point and walks the fine line of when camber becomes excessive.
This is why everything down to tire choice plays a roll including overall height. To be so terrifically cut and dry without acknowledging these aspects is rather kid like yourself in that it's the argumental mentality of an 8yr old . "No it's not and I don't care; you are wrong".
I agree that setups look best inside the housings, but they also look best when fitted aggressively towards the edge of the envelope. While a 12" wheel at YOUR offset might not work; with the proper backspace moving it towards the inner fender; with JUST a touch of camber, they fit perfectly, while not even being outside of what could be considered a performance spec.
Want them larger and stock fenders? Mini tub it for a few hundred and be done. Or you can stick on huge 1970s flares and go the other way.
Even a widebody c6 with agressive fenders does not taper back into a narrow bumper. On a subject of taste you should not be as quick to judge.
Although input is always valued, and is often taken without thanks, it is equally important not to let ego get the best of you.
While there may only be 11 1/12 inches from the inner fender to the lip in a straight line; that is not how a wheel sits in a car that is not a straight axle.
Firstly, when measuring a wheel; it is generally measured from the INSIDE of the lips. That means your 10" wheel is about 11" in total width. Plus account for tire buldge and this assumed 3/4" number to the fender. By your own logic a stock C5z wheel shouldn't fit.
The catch here is that ride height is going to dictate tire placement as an SLA or any IRS design has a wheel traveling in an arc pattern. Where the wheel is only square to the car at the longest portion of the arc of the longest arm. Hence when you lower a car (or let it hang on stands) the wheels will come in closer to the body with a set amount of camber.
Even a stock Corvette does not run 0 degrees out back; which would make the wheel square. What you DO have to work with is not a straight line from fender to inner fender; but a cross section in a diagonal line. That extra 1/2" to an inch is what is the make or break point and walks the fine line of when camber becomes excessive.
This is why everything down to tire choice plays a roll including overall height. To be so terrifically cut and dry without acknowledging these aspects is rather kid like yourself in that it's the argumental mentality of an 8yr old . "No it's not and I don't care; you are wrong".
I agree that setups look best inside the housings, but they also look best when fitted aggressively towards the edge of the envelope. While a 12" wheel at YOUR offset might not work; with the proper backspace moving it towards the inner fender; with JUST a touch of camber, they fit perfectly, while not even being outside of what could be considered a performance spec.
Want them larger and stock fenders? Mini tub it for a few hundred and be done. Or you can stick on huge 1970s flares and go the other way.
Even a widebody c6 with agressive fenders does not taper back into a narrow bumper. On a subject of taste you should not be as quick to judge.
Although input is always valued, and is often taken without thanks, it is equally important not to let ego get the best of you.