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Old 08-31-2015, 04:20 AM
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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what is the best way to torque the oil drain plug? The socket I have doesn't clear the frame cross member. Will a thin wall socket fit, or do you need to use a crow's foot?
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Originally Posted by john8642
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what is the best way to torque the oil drain plug? The socket I have doesn't clear the frame cross member. Will a thin wall socket fit, or do you need to use a crow's foot?
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Using a crow's foot with a torque wrench will not apply the target torque to the plug. For it to be true, you have to use a socket, or be able to do the math for the lever effect introduced by the crow's foot.
Try to use a short socket with a "wobble" extension that would allow you move just the minimal angle needed to clear the cross member.
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Open end takes 5 secs
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Open end wrench, tighten it down.
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Who torques a drain plug, JEEZ!
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I never torque an oil plug, more importantly did you raise the rear of the car off the ground to properly drain the oil from the oil pan?
Old 08-31-2015, 10:54 AM
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You ... seriously use a torque wrench on an oil drain plug?

Dude, just clean off the mating surfaces and snug it up with a box wrench.
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Who torques a drain plug, JEEZ!
Maybe someone who doesn't know better, "GEEZ". Thus the post.
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German torque specs... Gootntight
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Who torques a drain plug, JEEZ!

Torque, schmorque...Loctite red 271...
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Who torques a drain plug, JEEZ!
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I just use a box end wrench and snug it up. Never had any problems with the plug leaking.
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Originally Posted by GCG
Using a crow's foot with a torque wrench will not apply the target torque to the plug. For it to be true, you have to use a socket, or be able to do the math for the lever effect introduced by the crow's foot.
Try to use a short socket with a "wobble" extension that would allow you move just the minimal angle needed to clear the cross member.
Thanks for the reply. I read Toque's write up, which called for torqueing the plug. I haven't done my own work on cars since the days of steel oil pans and engine blocks, and was a little worried about the aluminum threads. For the rest of the posters, I'm glad you got some entertainment from it.
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I am surprised that you guys don't use a torque wrench on this drain plug. It threads into aluminum--and it can be stripped out. It happened to the original owner of my Corvette. The bottom of the oil pan had to be replaced on warranty.

Any time a steel plug is threaded into an aluminum pan--a torque wrench should be used in my opinion. And the oil filter should be torqued also.

I use a very short/shallow socket and I haven't had an issue with clearance.
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the oil pan on the c5 is aluminum and therefore subject to stripped threads when tightening drain plug, but you can do as i have done and use a 'fumoto engine drain valve ' which once installed, never needs to be taken out. easy to open, locks shut, saves time, and makes the job of changing oil a snap. the oil pan on c5 improves structural rigidity and if the pan has to come out due to stripped threads, well............
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Originally Posted by thisMSGgood4me
Why did you bring that up? Are you mad or just like to create havoc?
No, not trying to stir up trouble--but I bought my C5 from a Chevrolet dealer and drove it 500 miles and for some reason decided to change the new dealer installed motor oil--and found out that the oil filter was less than finger tight--it moved on the threads when accidentally touched with my forearm. It was ready to fall off and destroy my 10k engine!

I have worked on motorcycles for over 30 years and I have found out that any time steel is threaded into aluminum--it needs to be torqued correctly. As does anything relating to oil pressure and supply.
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Originally Posted by yanmar
the oil pan on the c5 is aluminum and therefore subject to stripped threads when tightening drain plug, but you can do as i have done and use a 'fumoto engine drain valve ' which once installed, never needs to be taken out. easy to open, locks shut, saves time, and makes the job of changing oil a snap. the oil pan on c5 improves structural rigidity and if the pan has to come out due to stripped threads, well............
That is a neat idea--but the possibly of someone easily releasing that lever when it is parked in a public place--has always haunted me. No oil and you would start it up dry without realizing that there is zero oil pressure.

Kind of like someone that opens the kill switch on a motorcycle parked in a public space-- and then watches the rider come back and wonder why the bike will not start with the starter button!

Some sick people out there with weird humor. But you probably don't have sick people in your area!

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Originally Posted by bluestreak63
Torque, schmorque...Loctite red 271...
Do not use Loctite red!!! I hope this guy is joking. Loctite red will lock the plug. In fact in some cases you need to use a torch to melt the loctite if you plan to remove it. If anything, you can use the blue Loctite. If your using Loctite red, you might as well use JB Weld, at least it won't leak!
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Originally Posted by imlowr2
Do not use Loctite red!!! I hope this guy is joking. Loctite red will lock the plug. In fact in some cases you need to use a torch to melt the loctite if you plan to remove it. If anything, you can use the blue Loctite. If your using Loctite red, you might as well use JB Weld, at least it won't leak!
True that!
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Originally Posted by john8642
Thanks for the reply. I read Toque's write up, which called for torqueing the plug. I haven't done my own work on cars since the days of steel oil pans and engine blocks, and was a little worried about the aluminum threads. For the rest of the posters, I'm glad you got some entertainment from it.
You're welcome! and yes, they've been having fun!


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