Should Radioflyer Innovations make a Low-rise Headlight kit?
02-18-2016, 06:54 PM
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02-19-2016, 09:17 AM
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That is the plan so far. The SLC v1 projectors are comparatively smaller, have better optics, perform better and are substantially less expensive.
The next step is to build a prototype to get specific dimensions for kit hardware. From there, I will build a fiberglass mold for the shroud. This will be send to a 3D scanner and a solid model file created. This will be sent to the CNC shop to create a mirror image mold for trimming.
The next step is to build a prototype to get specific dimensions for kit hardware. From there, I will build a fiberglass mold for the shroud. This will be send to a 3D scanner and a solid model file created. This will be sent to the CNC shop to create a mirror image mold for trimming.
02-19-2016, 05:15 PM
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02-19-2016, 09:31 PM
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Honestly speaking it would be nice to see something other than two circular projectors for each headlight. I think flat top and bottoms with rounded sides would look fantastic and compliment the overall package plus keep the opening as low as possible. That way the halos used would also be the same shape and a departure from the typical run of the mill aftermarket headlights.
If horizontal space is an issue between the two projectors, then perhaps the inner pro could be fully shaped flat top/bottom with rounded sides. Then the outboard pro's would meet up with the inboard with only one rounded side, almost like a "D" shape but the flat part meets the inboard pro.
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02-19-2016, 10:14 PM
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What halo will you be going with this time around? A full led ring as seen in newer retrofits, ccfl, or something different?
Honestly speaking it would be nice to see something other than two circular projectors for each headlight. I think flat top and bottoms with rounded sides would look fantastic and compliment the overall package plus keep the opening as low as possible. That way the halos used would also be the same shape and a departure from the typical run of the mill aftermarket headlights.
If horizontal space is an issue between the two projectors, then perhaps the inner pro could be fully shaped flat top/bottom with rounded sides. Then the outboard pro's would meet up with the inboard with only one rounded side, almost like a "D" shape but the flat part meets the inboard pro.
Honestly speaking it would be nice to see something other than two circular projectors for each headlight. I think flat top and bottoms with rounded sides would look fantastic and compliment the overall package plus keep the opening as low as possible. That way the halos used would also be the same shape and a departure from the typical run of the mill aftermarket headlights.
If horizontal space is an issue between the two projectors, then perhaps the inner pro could be fully shaped flat top/bottom with rounded sides. Then the outboard pro's would meet up with the inboard with only one rounded side, almost like a "D" shape but the flat part meets the inboard pro.
I'm afraid the type of engineering to which I think you're referring would cost far more than the average customer would be willing to pay. The C5's headlight area begs for a 2-light setup and the only way to do this with any kind of low-profile system (pop up or fixed) is with projectors. Thus far the only type of sealed projectors readily available are round.
There are a few square-type projectors available, but they are not sealed. That is about as exotic as it gets. When it comes to projector design, there's not much room for aesthetics, The shroud or bezel is the pretty part.
02-19-2016, 10:32 PM
#29
The plan is COB type low profile LED rings with sealed contacts since they will be "exposed"
I'm afraid the type of engineering to which I think you're referring would cost far more than the average customer would be willing to pay. The C5's headlight area begs for a 2-light setup and the only way to do this with any kind of low-profile system (pop up or fixed) is with projectors. Thus far the only type of sealed projectors readily available are round.
There are a few square-type projectors available, but they are not sealed. That is about as exotic as it gets. When it comes to projector design, there's not much room for aesthetics, The shroud or bezel is the pretty part.
I'm afraid the type of engineering to which I think you're referring would cost far more than the average customer would be willing to pay. The C5's headlight area begs for a 2-light setup and the only way to do this with any kind of low-profile system (pop up or fixed) is with projectors. Thus far the only type of sealed projectors readily available are round.
There are a few square-type projectors available, but they are not sealed. That is about as exotic as it gets. When it comes to projector design, there's not much room for aesthetics, The shroud or bezel is the pretty part.
02-20-2016, 05:30 AM
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Glad to see this design thinking.
The big barn door flap doesn't look correct with a small modern light source . To me this mis matched approach seemed a handyman design, the best that can be had with available parts, instead of a bespoke design fitted to the car.
Good luck getting the price down.
I don't have an issue with the stock set up, so for me, modern lights in high style would be a very cool addition. But , as others have mentioned, the cars are getting old and need money as they age. If my car was completely fettered out and stable, I wouldn't kick as much about the price.
The big barn door flap doesn't look correct with a small modern light source . To me this mis matched approach seemed a handyman design, the best that can be had with available parts, instead of a bespoke design fitted to the car.
Good luck getting the price down.
I don't have an issue with the stock set up, so for me, modern lights in high style would be a very cool addition. But , as others have mentioned, the cars are getting old and need money as they age. If my car was completely fettered out and stable, I wouldn't kick as much about the price.
02-20-2016, 07:36 AM
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No I get that, I suppose I did say projectors, when I should have said shrouds. I mean there's plenty of round projectors with diff shaped shrouds. Maybe even the overall headlight shroud could have that profile I was talking about. I certainly understand the limitations of fully sealed pros so that means the items used in conjunction are really the only things we can play with.
Glad to see this design thinking.
The big barn door flap doesn't look correct with a small modern light source . To me this mis matched approach seemed a handyman design, the best that can be had with available parts, instead of a bespoke design fitted to the car.
Good luck getting the price down.
I don't have an issue with the stock set up, so for me, modern lights in high style would be a very cool addition. But , as others have mentioned, the cars are getting old and need money as they age. If my car was completely fettered out and stable, I wouldn't kick as much about the price.
The big barn door flap doesn't look correct with a small modern light source . To me this mis matched approach seemed a handyman design, the best that can be had with available parts, instead of a bespoke design fitted to the car.
Good luck getting the price down.
I don't have an issue with the stock set up, so for me, modern lights in high style would be a very cool addition. But , as others have mentioned, the cars are getting old and need money as they age. If my car was completely fettered out and stable, I wouldn't kick as much about the price.
Using better and less expensive projectors, we were able to get the est price/set down to $800 putting them well within a reasonable price range for the crowd wanting something a unique solution.
Our Bi-xenon ACA (full pop up) headlight is still available for $650 making it the best performing and least-expensive solution of all the quality projector headlight systems.
02-21-2016, 08:56 PM
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Hey, if you guys need a test car, I'm all in for this! Right down the road from ya by probably 90 minutes. Just saying........
In all seriousness, You have my full attention here now. Good price point, lower opening, shrouded, good lighting and beam pattern...........
In all seriousness, You have my full attention here now. Good price point, lower opening, shrouded, good lighting and beam pattern...........
02-22-2016, 08:40 AM
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I think I will be using my 02 for this as I'm not sure how long we will need the vehicle. I just need to find/purchase a OEM headlight setup and then I can start working on it.
03-16-2016, 08:58 AM
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06-01-2016, 11:34 PM
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06-02-2016, 10:43 AM
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Well, it is too bad to hear about the divorce. Put me down in the list of people that are very intrested, but not impatient. I don't drive my car at night to avoid bugs and deer, but I plan on updateing the headlights before the aftermarket gives up on the C5.
that said, if this project doesn't start back up...... your ACA looks like a great option.
One question about this project, will the high beam be Xenon? I love the LED high beam option for flashing and not worrying about damaging the Xenon or ballasts. Is that a concern?
that said, if this project doesn't start back up...... your ACA looks like a great option.
One question about this project, will the high beam be Xenon? I love the LED high beam option for flashing and not worrying about damaging the Xenon or ballasts. Is that a concern?
