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does anybody know what the difference is between the corvette engine from the camaro SS engine, I know that the vette is much lighter than the SS and faster as well, but what is the difference between the engines
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St. Jude Donor '15
basically what he said... no significant differences
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Originally Posted by silver_z06
does anybody know what the difference is between the corvette engine from the camaro SS engine, I know that the vette is much lighter than the SS and faster as well, but what is the difference between the engines
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so basicaly nothing but the TB, I think that they should put more goodies on the vette engine than the maro or the trucks engine, I mean you buy a vette for about 40G's or so and you're getting the same engine as a car or truck that goes between 18 to 30G's, that kills it for the vette owners, at least thats what I think
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St. Jude Donor '15
true.. they should, but they wanna make all the $$ they can obviously so they just use what they already have anywhere it works
sucks for us with vettes... but nice for those with camaro's that wanna run their mouths since they have the same base engine
sucks for us with vettes... but nice for those with camaro's that wanna run their mouths since they have the same base engine
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Actually there is...
In 2002, the Fbody production line was running low on some of the internals for their program allotment. Cams, Blocks, rods, and some internals fell short. This is fact, not speculation from yours truly, so check other sources if you don't believe me.
What you'll find in many 2002 model F-bodies is an LS6 shortblock and a truck line production cam/ lifters/rockers, and LS6 intakes. A number of guys (check over on ls1tech.com) have pulled the numbers off their blocks and found this to be true. My little brother has one such LSX equipped 2002 Camaro.
At the recent Corvette Forum Dyno day at Carolina Auto Masters (CAM), his car pulled 320HP and 333#ft. of torque with ZERO internal mods, no headers, a crappy magnaflow $280 Cat back and a K&N Air filter. This is more than they were rated at the crank from the factory by a significant margine. We pulled the numbers off his block, and it is indeed of the questionable production run.
Jeff Creech, Owner of CAM told me that he's done a number of Cam swaps on 2002 model Fbodys and found those truck cams in them. The numbers are stamped on them, so it's pretty easy to confirm what you have.
If your looking for a swap candidate and can't find a Z06 cheap, I'd look for a motor out of the 2002 Fbody. It will likely be an LS6 based engine, based on what is being reported.
I know some of you guys are reading this and scratching your heads, as I was the first time I read it. But what I was told by a GM production line tech on a news group list I also subscribe to is that it's very common for GM to do this kinda thing on a product line that is being sunsetted. Once a product is being dropped, they try to cut the allotment of parts to support the product as closely to the exact number as possible. Sometimes they get it wrong, and in the case of the 2002 production Fbody, they apparently did.
Mike
In 2002, the Fbody production line was running low on some of the internals for their program allotment. Cams, Blocks, rods, and some internals fell short. This is fact, not speculation from yours truly, so check other sources if you don't believe me.
What you'll find in many 2002 model F-bodies is an LS6 shortblock and a truck line production cam/ lifters/rockers, and LS6 intakes. A number of guys (check over on ls1tech.com) have pulled the numbers off their blocks and found this to be true. My little brother has one such LSX equipped 2002 Camaro.
At the recent Corvette Forum Dyno day at Carolina Auto Masters (CAM), his car pulled 320HP and 333#ft. of torque with ZERO internal mods, no headers, a crappy magnaflow $280 Cat back and a K&N Air filter. This is more than they were rated at the crank from the factory by a significant margine. We pulled the numbers off his block, and it is indeed of the questionable production run.
Jeff Creech, Owner of CAM told me that he's done a number of Cam swaps on 2002 model Fbodys and found those truck cams in them. The numbers are stamped on them, so it's pretty easy to confirm what you have.
If your looking for a swap candidate and can't find a Z06 cheap, I'd look for a motor out of the 2002 Fbody. It will likely be an LS6 based engine, based on what is being reported.
I know some of you guys are reading this and scratching your heads, as I was the first time I read it. But what I was told by a GM production line tech on a news group list I also subscribe to is that it's very common for GM to do this kinda thing on a product line that is being sunsetted. Once a product is being dropped, they try to cut the allotment of parts to support the product as closely to the exact number as possible. Sometimes they get it wrong, and in the case of the 2002 production Fbody, they apparently did.
Mike
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I'm actully glad gm puts this engine in every thing from vettes, 4x4 trucks and fwd impalls and grand prix's. It keeps modding costs down. You can use 5.3 heads, ls6 heads or 6.0 H.O. heads to suit your application. Intakes you could use ls1,ls2, ls6 or if their is room 6.0 H.O. truck intakes. If your heavy into boost or n20 you could use a 6.0 iron block. Cam kits are dirt cheep, rotating assemblys are cheap, ported heads for under a grand. I would just be glad they arn't still using the triditinal small block 350. 1955 to 1996(lt1) The whole reason I baught a c5 was for the ls1 and I didn't want a f-body. I don't know, I love the universal engine
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I personally believe it is the best motor GM Has built in decades. My project track car has an $8000 383 stroker W/ custom everything and if I could unload it without taking a bath, I'd replace it with the LSX based motor. simply amazing what can be done with it...
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definetly a well engineered motor...
its pretty funny to hear people who don't know much talk about how much faster the engines in C5's compared to SS's when they're essentially exactly the same
its pretty funny to hear people who don't know much talk about how much faster the engines in C5's compared to SS's when they're essentially exactly the same
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I suppose it's all relative...
Cam in the early Fbody was more wimpy than in the early C5, and the rev limiter on the Fbodies is set pretty low... I think little brother bangs his at about 5800RPMS...
Mike
Cam in the early Fbody was more wimpy than in the early C5, and the rev limiter on the Fbodies is set pretty low... I think little brother bangs his at about 5800RPMS...
Mike
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Originally Posted by turboc5
I'm actully glad gm puts this engine in every thing from vettes, 4x4 trucks and fwd impalls and grand prix's. It keeps modding costs down. You can use 5.3 heads, ls6 heads or 6.0 H.O. heads to suit your application. Intakes you could use ls1,ls2, ls6 or if their is room 6.0 H.O. truck intakes. If your heavy into boost or n20 you could use a 6.0 iron block. Cam kits are dirt cheep, rotating assemblys are cheap, ported heads for under a grand. I would just be glad they arn't still using the triditinal small block 350. 1955 to 1996(lt1) The whole reason I baught a c5 was for the ls1 and I didn't want a f-body. I don't know, I love the universal engine
Chevy has done this for years. The 283 ci engine, as an example, was used in everything. You could get a Fuelie Corvette engine in a sedan. As said, it keep mods reasonable. What other basic engine design has lasted over 50 years. They used to tout the old Ford Flathead as a great classic motor, but it only lasted from 1932 to 1953.